Yu-Gi-Oh! Rulings Questions

[Zazubat]

 

Weo

If Gogogo Golem is attacked while in face-down Defense Position and flipped face-up, is it destroyed by battle? Is this different between TCG and OCG?

I'm pretty sure Continuous Effects come to play as soon as it's face-up, I remember something like this on Phantom Beastcrafts, so it won't be destroyed.

[evilfusion]

To my knowledge, Golem will not die. There's no way for it be in facedown DEF position when being destroyed by battle, so I think the wording is just to clarify it doesn't work when it's in ATK position. Other cards that can't be destroyed by battle will work even if attacked while facedown.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

I know that in the OCG at least that Gogogo Golem saves itself when attacked in face-down defense position, yet the need to clarify it has to be face-up is a bit weird.

[D.A._Sakuyamon]

I summon Gyzarus and target his call of the haunted & one of my face downs. He then activates Starlight Road and says that because call makes the monster it attaches itself to dies he can activate it in response to Gyzarus. Is this true?

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

I summon Gyzarus and target his call of the haunted & one of my face downs. He then activates Starlight Road and says that because call makes the monster it attaches itself to dies he can activate it in response to Gyzarus. Is this true?

He cannot do that, because the effect would only destroy 1 card your opponent controls. Call of the Haunted's effect would be to destroy a card, and even then, the effect would only be applied AFTER Call of the Haunted was destroyed, so in either case Starlight Road could not be activated. A lot of people will think that you can still use Starlight Road, but you cannot use it in this case.

[Agro]

When Noble Knight Medraut's equip spell is destroyed and it's turned into a Normal monster due to it's effect of special summoning, when I activate the equip spell's effect and re-equip it to Medraut for it to become an effect monster again, the once per turn clause is still enforced, right?

 

Assuming yes because of an infinite loop.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

When Noble Knight Medraut's equip spell is destroyed and it's turned into a Normal monster due to it's effect of special summoning, when I activate the equip spell's effect and re-equip it to Medraut for it to become an effect monster again, the once per turn clause is still enforced, right?

 

Assuming yes because of an infinite loop.

Only thing I could compare that to is Gemini Monsters, and they all remember that their effects were activated even if you return a Supervise that gave them their effects to your hand.

[evilfusion]

Unless the monster was removed from the Field or flipped facedown, it is still bound by its restrictions. Like Gemini monsters, treating Medraut as a Normal Monster won't make it forget that it, as an Effect Monster, used its effect that turn.

[Sora1499]

Can trap monsters (i.e. Metal Reflect Slime) be used as Xyz material?

[Blake]

Of course they can, they're monsters, not tokens.

[darkwolf777]

Can trap monsters (i.e. Metal Reflect Slime) be used as Xyz material?

 

Yes.  Unlike tokens, Trap Monsters can actually be overlaid since they are a physical card.

[Zazubat]

Detaching Manticore of Darkness from an Xyz Monster will fulfil it's condition to trigger it's effect correct? Will it if the Xyz Monster is destroyed/removed from the field?

[Miror B]

Detaching Manticore of Darkness from an Xyz Monster will fulfil it's condition to trigger it's effect correct? Will it if the Xyz Monster is destroyed/removed from the field?

If it was sent to the Graveyard, it will trigger.

Same condition as Dandylion.

[evilfusion]

Yes, Manticore will activate regardless of where it came from, so long as it was sent to the Graveyard. It can be from hand, Deck, Field, or Xyz Material.

[Zazubat]

Yes, Manticore will activate regardless of where it came from, so long as it was sent to the Graveyard. It can be from hand, Deck, Field, or Xyz Material.

Yes to that it doens't matter, or yes to that what I thought was correct is correct?

[evilfusion]

Yes, it WILL activate if sent as Xyz Material. If the Xyz Monster was destroyed, its Xyz Material is sent to Grave. It will activate then, too.

[Zazubat]

Yes, it WILL activate if sent as Xyz Material. If the Xyz Monster was destroyed, its Xyz Material is sent to Grave. It will activate then, too.

Oh, but internets keep telling me that if it's detached as an Xyz Material it's not sent to the Graveyard. I guess not!

[evilfusion]

Oh, but internets keep telling me that if it's detached as an Xyz Material it's not sent to the Graveyard. I guess not!

 

Close. It's sent to the Graveyard, but not FROM THE FIELD. Sangan won't activate, but cards like Tour Bus, Dandylion, and Manticore, which don't have to be sent specifically from the Field, will activate.

[Zazubat]

Close. It's sent to the Graveyard, but not FROM THE FIELD. Sangan won't activate, but cards like Tour Bus, Dandylion, and Manticore, which don't have to be sent specifically from the Field, will activate.

Once again the rules amaze me on how freaking pinpoint everything in this game is. Ah well, glad I asked, otherwise I wouldn't ever have known.

[evilfusion]

Once again the rules amaze me on how freaking pinpoint everything in this game is. Ah well, glad I asked, otherwise I wouldn't ever have known.

 

To be fair, Xyz Material rules are a bit of an oddity compared to the other, more logical mechanics of the game. The Materials are no longer considered on the Field, and exist in a sort of "limbo" state where they're neither on the Field nor being removed from the Field.

 

The TCG first ruled that Xyz Material WERE on the Field for a few weeks before retracting it. Good thing, because Tour Guide -> Sangan was broken as hell.

 

But yes, the wording of cards is EXTREMELY crucial to knowing how they work. It's easier than it used to be, before Problem-Solving card text.

[Zazubat]

To be fair, Xyz Material rules are a bit of an oddity compared to the other, more logical mechanics of the game. The Materials are no longer considered on the Field, and exist in a sort of "limbo" state where they're neither on the Field nor being removed from the Field.

 

The TCG first ruled that Xyz Material WERE on the Field for a few weeks before retracting it. Good thing, because Tour Guide -> Sangan was broken as hell.

 

But yes, the wording of cards is EXTREMELY crucial to knowing how they work. It's easier than it used to be, before Problem-Solving card text.

I didn't knoe PSCT existed before Xyz Monsters, I thought that came with the introduction of Xyz Monsters. I don't know much about that though, I may be totaly off. But I'm getting off topic here, thanks for the help.

[evilfusion]

That's correct. Xyz Monsters were released in GENF, and GENF is the first pack to start with the PSCT.

 

But I'm referring to most effects in general were harder to distinguish before the text changed.

[Zazubat]

I got an other question. Let's say I detach this fake card's effect: "You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; destroy a monster". Say I then choose to activate Divine Wrath, and negate and destroy that monster, would my Xyz Material be considered detach for the effect or destroyed because of the Xyz Monster being destroyed?

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

If a card says to detach a material from it, that's a cost, and costs happen before a card is ever negated. You always have to pay a cost. Even if your Solemn Judgment is negated by Dark Bribe, before Dark Bribe is even activated, you have to pay half of your Life Points, and same goes for activating something like Lightning Vortex, Tiaramisu, or Utopia. To answer your question plainly, it's detached as a material. However, it seems like you're trying to ask a question about the material being destroyed? Materials are never considered destroyed.

[Miror B]

If a card says to detach a material from it, that's a cost,

Acid Golem.

 

Use the colons/semi colons pls.

 

I got an other question. Let's say I detach this fake card's effect: "You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; destroy a monster". Say I then choose to activate Divine Wrath, and negate and destroy that monster, would my Xyz Material be considered detach for the effect or destroyed because of the Xyz Monster being destroyed?

Materials are never "destroyed". They are not detatched but they get sent to the graveyard.

Otherwise, since you have the detatch before the semi-colon, it would be detatched before the Xyz is destroyed.