Yu-Gi-Oh! Rulings Questions

[Resident Fascist]

Opponent Effect Veiler's a Spirit God and then Destroys it with Raigeki Break. Do I miss my next battle phase?

 

It's currently my turn, I summon a Spirit God and they Bottomless it. Do I skip the battle phase coming, this turn, or my next turn's battle phase?

[Miror B]

Opponent Effect Veiler's a Spirit God and then Destroys it with Raigeki Break. Do I miss my next battle phase?

 

It's currently my turn, I summon a Spirit God and they Bottomless it. Do I skip the battle phase coming, this turn, or my next turn's battle phase?

No because of weird TCG rulings saying it's applying as it leaves the field or something.

 

Read the card. It specifically says "next turn"

[evilfusion]

No because of weird TCG rulings saying it's applying as it leaves the field or something.

 

Read the card. It specifically says "next turn"

 

You're right, but the OCG has that ruling (too). TCG and OCG are not contradicting each other.

[Resident Fascist]

World's tails effect, does my opponent draw before the effect or does the effect go off first?

[Miror B]

World's tails effect, does my opponent draw before the effect or does the effect go off first?

Drawing during the Draw Phase is always the first thing to happen unless a card specifically states otherwise. They will draw a card, then add the top card of their graveyard to their hand.

[Resident Fascist]

Drawing during the Draw Phase is always the first thing to happen unless a card specifically states otherwise. They will draw a card, then add the top card of their graveyard to their hand.

 

 

Thought so otherwise both effects seem stupidly positive.

[darkwolf777]

No because of weird TCG rulings saying it's applying as it leaves the field or something.

 

Read the card. It specifically says "next turn"

 

The effect to skip the next battle phase is applied immediately as the card leaves the field, not during the next turn's Battle Phase.

 

If negated while removed from the field, it would not be applied.  It is not a Trigger Effect or a Latent Effect of any kind.

[Miror B]

The effect to skip the next battle phase is applied immediately as the card leaves the field, not during the next turn's Battle Phase.\

No but it skips the Battle Phase of the next turn because that is what it says.

 

If negated while removed from the field, it would not be applied.  It is not a Trigger Effect or a Latent Effect of any kind.

That's pretty much what I said, just badly.

[mikel.]

Does this work only for the real yugioh cards or the created ones as well.

[Zazubat]

Does this work only for the real yugioh cards or the created ones as well.

what do you mean by "does this work"?

[Miror B]

what do you mean by "does this work"?

I think he's asking if we answer hypothetical questions, which we try to.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Though I wouldn't ask too many. We don't really need the TCG thread spammed with questions about created cards, especially since if you have incorrect grammar on your cards it doesn't actually matter.

[darkwolf777]

No but it skips the Battle Phase of the next turn because that is what it says.

 

Ok, that doesn't change what I said at all.  The effect still isn't applied "next turn".  Sure, next turn is when the Battle Phase will be skipped, but there is no effect going on "next turn".  That effect is applied immediately.

[Miror B]

Ok, that doesn't change what I said at all.  The effect still isn't applied "next turn".  Sure, next turn is when the Battle Phase will be skipped, but there is no effect going on "next turn".  That effect is applied immediately.

I didn't say the effect applied next turn. In fact I even said it applied "As it left the field". Why are we arguing?

[Darj]

Do I still draw a card if "Power Tool Mecha Dragon" is equipped with an Union Monster (Gearframe, Peacekeeper) or even with a monster (Kiseitai, Blast Sphere, etc.)? Altough Mecha Dragon states that you draw a card when an Equip Spell Card is equipped to it, Unions become Equip Spell Cards, and I believe equipped monsters are treated as such too, so I was wondering if I could get to draw through those two mechanics.

[Shradow]

Say an opponent uses MST on my face-down Magical Dimension. I chain Dimension to MST's activation, special summoning Magical Marionette. Does it then follow that MST resolves, destroying Dimension, and Marionette gets a spell counter, since cards that gain spell counters do so at the resolution of spell cards?

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

They gain them at resolution, but it was not present when the card was actually activated, so I would say no.

[darkwolf777]

I didn't say the effect applied next turn. In fact I even said it applied "As it left the field". Why are we arguing?

 

I don't know.  You started it.

 

 

Do I still draw a card if "Power Tool Mecha Dragon" is equipped with an Union Monster (Gearframe, Peacekeeper) or even with a monster (Kiseitai, Blast Sphere, etc.)? Altough Mecha Dragon states that you draw a card when an Equip Spell Card is equipped to it, Unions become Equip Spell Cards, and I believe equipped monsters are treated as such too, so I was wondering if I could get to draw through those two mechanics.

 

Union Monsters become Equip Spell Cards and then equip themselves to the targeted monster.  It should count as the action of an Equip Spell Card being equipped should suffice to trigger the effect (meaning the effect that links the Equip Spell Card to the target monster, that action should be all that is required).  This should include using something like Tailor of the Fickle to move an Equip Spell Card from another monster to Power Tool Mecha Dragon.

 

 

Say an opponent uses MST on my face-down Magical Dimension. I chain Dimension to MST's activation, special summoning Magical Marionette. Does it then follow that MST resolves, destroying Dimension, and Marionette gets a spell counter, since cards that gain spell counters do so at the resolution of spell cards?

 

 

 

Magical Marionette must be face-up on the field when the Spell Card are activated.  It will not gain any counters in this situation.

[Mugendramon]

Black-Falcon rams itself against something with more ATK. There are no Tokens on the field prior to the attack.

 

Falcon makes a Token, but does it survive?

 

For reference, Falcon's wording, from DN and Wikia respectively.

 

DN

 

When this card attacks: Special Summon 1 "Phantom Beastcraft Token" (Machine-Type/WIND/Level 3/ATK 0/DEF 0). Increase this card's Level by the combined Levels of all "Phantom Beastcraft Token" you control. While you control a Token, this card cannot be destroyed by battle or card effects. Once per turn, during either player's turn: You can Tribute 1 Token to target 1 monster your opponent controls; change that target to face-up Defense Position. 

 

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Wikia

 

When this card declares an attack: Special Summon 1 "Phantom Beast Plane Token" (WIND/Machine-Type/Level 3/ATK 0/DEF 0). This card's Level is increased by the total Levels of all "Phantom Beast Plane Tokens" you control. This card cannot be destroyed by battle or by card effects while you control a Token. During either player's turn: You can Tribute 1 Token you control to target 1 monster your opponent controls; change that target to face-up Defense Position.

[darkwolf777]

Black-Falcon rams itself against something with more ATK. There are no Tokens on the field prior to the attack.

 

Falcon makes a Token, but does it survive?

 

For reference, Falcon's wording, from DN and Wikia respectively.

 

DN

 

When this card attacks: Special Summon 1 "Phantom Beastcraft Token" (Machine-Type/WIND/Level 3/ATK 0/DEF 0). Increase this card's Level by the combined Levels of all "Phantom Beastcraft Token" you control. While you control a Token, this card cannot be destroyed by battle or card effects. Once per turn, during either player's turn: You can Tribute 1 Token to target 1 monster your opponent controls; change that target to face-up Defense Position. 

 

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Wikia

 

When this card declares an attack: Special Summon 1 "Phantom Beast Plane Token" (WIND/Machine-Type/Level 3/ATK 0/DEF 0). This card's Level is increased by the total Levels of all "Phantom Beast Plane Tokens" you control. This card cannot be destroyed by battle or by card effects while you control a Token. During either player's turn: You can Tribute 1 Token you control to target 1 monster your opponent controls; change that target to face-up Defense Position.

 

"When this card declares an attack" is a part of the Battle Step  At the point you say "i'm going to attack with Phantom Beast Plane Black-Falcon" and pick an attack target, the attack response chain will begin with "Phantom Beast Plane Black-Falcon" as Chain Link #1 to create a token.

 

In any case, there will be a Phantom Beast Plane Token face-up on the field long before "Damage Calculation" occurs, which is where monsters are determined to be "destroyed by battle". 

 

So long as there is a token on the field during Damage Calculation when that damage is calculated,  Phantom Beast Plane Black-Falcon will not be destroyed by the battle.

[newhat]

After bouncing Swap Frog for its effect and Special Summoning it, can you bounce it for its effect a second time?

 

Probably been asked many times and will be unto eternity.

[darkwolf777]

After bouncing Swap Frog for its effect and Special Summoning it, can you bounce it for its effect a second time?

 

Probably been asked many times and will be unto eternity.

 

If you used it effect, removed it from the field, and summoned Swap Frog again if that's what you're saying then yes.  That applies to any "Once per turn" effect that doesn't specify "This effect can only be activated once per turn".

[newhat]

I ask because it gives you an extra Normal Summon, and it seems like it couldn't...resolve properly? I dunno.

[darkwolf777]

I ask because it gives you an extra Normal Summon, and it seems like it couldn't...resolve properly? I dunno.

 

There's nothing against giving yourself "a Normal Summon in addition to your Normal Summon or Set" multiple times.  This type of effect overlaps with itself so you wouldn't get more than 1 additional Normal Summon no matter how many times you activate the effect though.  It is acceptable to activate it though.

[Zazubat]

This is a CC problem. I have a mandatory card effect that returns to the deck during the End Phase, but I'm trying to have an effect stop that, however it's not mandatory. Since I can have my opinional effect stop my cards from being returned, will it go first?