Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Is declaring a Type and an Attribute part of the effect of Abyssal Designator, or an activation cost?I think you mean an activation requirement? I think you choose upon activation, but I can't say for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 While there doesn't seem to be an actual ruling on that card specifically, I'm inclined to think that it is declared at activation, same as Eradicator Epidemic Virus and Mind Crush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Just to be sure, because I told someone a ruling about this, Forbidden Lance does not stop the ATK increase from Spellbook of Power, correct? Because Lance doesn't cleanse monsters of changes that have already been targeted to cards? "If you use "Forbidden Lance" on a monster being affected by "Shrink", the ATK will be the halved original value minus 800." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 unless it's a continuous or equip, it will decrease it, but since it's a lingering effect, it will keep it iirc. also this: "if a Spellcaster-Type monster affected by "Spellbook of Power" is affected by "Forbidden Lance", the effects of "Spellbook of Power" that has already resolved are still applied." So if you acitvated as in the same chain, it would negate those effs. EDIT: Oh wait, I might have gotten your question wrong. Since you're having Shrink as an example, that changes original, but if that is negted, it will return to the original, and your monster will also lose 800 points, though if it's a chain I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 If that was on the Wiki, I guess I should have read Power before I read Lance, but I guess that could help answer other people's questions. Also, that thing about Shrink was a ruling, not the question I was asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 If that was on the Wiki, I guess I should have read Power before I read Lance, but I guess that could help answer other people's questions. Also, that thing about Shrink was a ruling, not the question I was asking.I know you were, just saying that I'm not sure if it was meant as a part of a chain, or as a part of it already being targeted beforehend. But it seems that it's the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Just to be sure, because I told someone a ruling about this, Forbidden Lance does not stop the ATK increase from Spellbook of Power, correct? Because Lance doesn't cleanse monsters of changes that have already been targeted to cards? "If you use "Forbidden Lance" on a monster being affected by "Shrink", the ATK will be the halved original value minus 800." It doesn't stop the increase after Power's been resolved. Chaining Lance to power is a different matter I hope you understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 It doesn't stop the increase after Power's been resolved. Chaining Lance to power is a different matter I hope you understand.as I thought as well. that would make sense too also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 It doesn't stop the increase after Power's been resolved. Chaining Lance to power is a different matter I hope you understand.That makes sense, and what I figured it was, and how I told them. Thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Would Supervise a activate if I destroyed the equipped monster by battle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Would Supervise a activate if I destroyed the equipped monster by battle? Supervise's effect is mandatory. It must activate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Supervise's effect is mandatory. It must activate.not what I meant, I ment if it was "destroyed" if I destroyed the monster instead of destroying the card itself. I actually thought it said destroy not sent, why did I think that? But, if if said destroy, would it activate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Can I use Haze-Glory/Hazy Glory's effect that returns a card from my Graveyard to my hand on my opponent's turn? Since it's a Continuous Trap Card, I thought it would work like a Quick-like effect - it doesn't even specify when you can activate it, just like Mischief of the Youkai. But I'm not totally sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 not what I meant, I ment if it was "destroyed" if I destroyed the monster instead of destroying the card itself. I actually thought it said destroy not sent, why did I think that? But, if if said destroy, would it activate?If it's destroyed, it's destroyed. Destruction by game mechanics is still destruction. Can I use Haze-Glory/Hazy Glory's effect that returns a card from my Graveyard to my hand on my opponent's turn? Since it's a Continuous Trap Card, I thought it would work like a Quick-like effect - it doesn't even specify when you can activate it, just like Mischief of the Youkai. But I'm not totally sure.Trap cards are Spell Speed 2 and can be activated as such unless the card states otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 If it's destroyed, it's destroyed. Destruction by game mechanics is still destruction. Trap cards are Spell Speed 2 and can be activated as such unless the card states otherwise. Ok, thanks for the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Can I activate Tiger King's detach effect if there are no face-up non-Beast-Warrior-Type monsters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Can I activate Tiger King's detach effect if there are no face-up non-Beast-Warrior-Type monsters? Sorry, you said NON-Beast-Warrior Type You would need at least 1 Monster that could be negated by the effect to activate it. Whether it already has its effects negated by another effect is irrelevant, but there must be at least 1 non-Beast Warrior Type Effect Monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 an effect cannot be activated if nothing would happen on resolution. in the case of tiger king you need at least one non-Beast-Warrior on the field to negate to activate the effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Since Debris Dragon doesn't target the monster after it is summoned, and it negates the effect of the monster anyways, can you summon Spirit Reaper with its effect and keep it on the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Since Debris Dragon doesn't target the monster after it is summoned, and it negates the effect of the monster anyways, can you summon Spirit Reaper with its effect and keep it on the field? Even if it did target, Spirit Reaper would've been negated before it could apply its own Continuous Effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeguBrit Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 This may sound dumb but if I detach a Geargiaccelerator from a Gigant to add something to my hand, does accelerator miss timing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Xyz Materials are not on the field in the first place, so it can't even begin to attempt to use its effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Where is a Token Monster SS from? If an effect activates in the Graveyard would it be concidered SS from there for instance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Where is a Token Monster SS from? If an effect activates in the Graveyard would it be concidered SS from there for instance?No. Tokens monsters aren't special summoned from anywhere. They just "appear" Special Summoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 No. Tokens monsters aren't special summoned from anywhere. They just "appear" Special Summoned.ok thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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