Yu-Gi-Oh! Rulings Questions

[darkwolf777]

I had in my mind Continuous traps only worked if face-up when resolving. I never summon Helios if they typhoon my Macrocosmos.

 

You are indeed correct, in which case, Call of the Haunted would not Special Summon the monster.

[Zazubat]

As evilfusion said, you cannot target a card in the hand; it cannot be done in Yugioh. The only way to make a card like this is to have the "Select a card in the opponent's hand and look at it" part occur during resolution. Change the word "Target" to "Select" and remove the semicolon should fix your effect.

 

In the end, changing it to occur during resolution makes your question moot.

I realized that I made a mistake with the semi-colon, but I don't get why it can't be target, isn't it just the same thing as select?

 

Here's the fixed version, does this work?: When this card is Normal Summoned: Select 1 random card in your opponents hand and look at it, then if it's a Monster Card: Add 1 Reptile-Type monster with a Level equal to or lower Level than the targeted card from your deck to your hand.

[evilfusion]

No. Targeting happens BEFORE anything can chain. This is often crucial information for when your opponent may want to counter it. Selecting means the affected card is chosen at resolution.

 

There are LOTS of cards where this distinction is important, and the Problem-Solving Card Text is designed to make this distinction very clear. One of the rules is that the hand can never be targeted, which is why Trishula is not considered to target.

[Zazubat]

No. Targeting happens BEFORE anything can chain. This is often crucial information for when your opponent may want to counter it. Selecting means the affected card is chosen at resolution.

 

There are LOTS of cards where this distinction is important, and the Problem-Solving Card Text is designed to make this distinction very clear. One of the rules is that the hand can never be targeted, which is why Trishula is not considered to target.

what do you mean by "chosen at resolution"?

[darkwolf777]

what do you mean by "chosen at resolution"?

 

Like Trishula's effect.

[evilfusion]

That means the player using the effect still chooses what card gets affected, but it's not chosen until the effect is resolving. This most commonly happens with cards that affect other cards based on a factor that isn't concrete.

 

Token Sundae, for example, destroys all your Tokens and destroys cards up to the number of Tokens you destroyed.

 

Destroying tokens is not a cost. It occurs at resolution. Your opponent could chain a card to your Sundae that either gives you more Tokens, or gets rid of some of your Tokens. Since the number of Tokens you have that will be destroyed is not a set number (compared to a card that may say "Destroy 2 Tokens and if you do, destroy cards up to the number of Tokens destroyed"), you do not target the cards.

 

When the effect resolves, you destroy your Tokens. Let's say you had 2 tokens. Now, you choose to destroy up to 2 of your opponent's cards. Since this is the effect's resolution, the opponent may not chain a card at this time.

[Zazubat]

That means the player using the effect still chooses what card gets affected, but it's not chosen until the effect is resolving. This most commonly happens with cards that affect other cards based on a factor that isn't concrete.

 

Token Sundae, for example, destroys all your Tokens and destroys cards up to the number of Tokens you destroyed.

 

Destroying tokens is not a cost. It occurs at resolution. Your opponent could chain a card to your Sundae that either gives you more Tokens, or gets rid of some of your Tokens. Since the number of Tokens you have that will be destroyed is not a set number (compared to a card that may say "Destroy 2 Tokens and if you do, destroy cards up to the number of Tokens destroyed"), you do not target the cards.

 

When the effect resolves, you destroy your Tokens. Let's say you had 2 tokens. Now, you choose to destroy up to 2 of your opponent's cards. Since this is the effect's resolution, the opponent may not chain a card at this time.

I still don't get it sorry :(

[Miror B]

I still don't get it sorry :(

Resolution = When the chain is resolving. It's in the basic rulebook of chains.

Cards that target will select the cards at activation. Cards that do not target will select the cards at resolution.

[Zazubat]

Resolution = When the chain is resolving. It's in the basic rulebook of chains.

Cards that target will select the cards at activation. Cards that do not target will select the cards at resolution.

Too bad I have never read a rulebook. I get it now, why wouldn't he just say it the simple way.

 

EDIT: I got a question, if I detach an Xyz Material, and say it would be appropriate for a target in the graveyard for it's effect, can I use that monster if I don't have any other appropriate targets?

[darkwolf777]

EDIT: I got a question, if I detach an Xyz Material, and say it would be appropriate for a target in the graveyard for it's effect, can I use that monster if I don't have any other appropriate targets?

 

You cannot activate the effect in the first place if you do not have an appropriate target in order to activate the effect.

[Zazubat]

You cannot activate the effect in the first place if you do not have an appropriate target in order to activate the effect.

that's what I figured in the first place, just wanted to make sure.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Well, I'm confused. The Battle Step is after the attack declaration, correct? So why in the rulings for Galaxy-Eyes does it say that you can activate Magic Cylinder when its effect is used?

[Dementuo]

Well, I'm confused. The Battle Step is after the attack declaration, correct? So why in the rulings for Galaxy-Eyes does it say that you can activate Magic Cylinder when its effect is used?

Battle Step starts at Attack Declaration and continues until Start of the Damage Step.

Attack Declaration is a part of the Battle Step.

[evilfusion]

Right, as Dem said, the Battle Step is the span of time from attack declaration up to the Damage Step. Attack Declaration is the first part of this step.

 

This is important because some cards must specifically react to attack declaration, and may not be used if that specific window is passed. If Galaxy-Eyes declares an attack, and uses its effect right then, it's still attack declaration, so Cylinder may be used. Likewise, Galaxy-Eyes can chain to Cylinder being used.

[Zazubat]

Is there any significant difference between "putting" and "placing" a counter on a card, or is it just because it's an older card? Also, if so which is the most correct way of wording it?

[evilfusion]

There is no functionality difference between the words.

 

The most up-to-date term is "place", though.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Right, as Dem said, the Battle Step is the span of time from attack declaration up to the Damage Step. Attack Declaration is the first part of this step.

 

This is important because some cards must specifically react to attack declaration, and may not be used if that specific window is passed. If Galaxy-Eyes declares an attack, and uses its effect right then, it's still attack declaration, so Cylinder may be used. Likewise, Galaxy-Eyes can chain to Cylinder being used.

I guess games confused me, because they always ask if you want to activate cards during the Battle Step after attack declaration,

[darkwolf777]

I guess games confused me, because they always ask if you want to activate cards during the Battle Step after attack declaration,

 

That's because it is still the Battle Step after Attack Declaration where cards can be activated.

 

For example: You attack, I activate Mirror Force, you Trap Stun, and I use Seven Tools of the Bandit After the chain resolves, the Attack Declaration response is over, but it is still the Battle Step. You could use Book of Moon at this time to set your attacking monster here so that its not destroyed by Mirror Force.

[evilfusion]

That's because it is still the Battle Step after Attack Declaration where cards can be activated.

 

For example: You attack, I activate Mirror Force, you Trap Stun, and I use Seven Tools of the Bandit After the chain resolves, the Attack Declaration response is over, but it is still the Battle Step. You could use Book of Moon at this time to set your attacking monster here so that its not destroyed by Mirror Force.

 

Um...what? When the chain resolves, Mirror Force (Link 1) destroys all monsters in ATK position. Maybe you meant "so that's not destroyed by battle" or something.

[Miror B]

That's because it is still the Battle Step after Attack Declaration where cards can be activated.

 

For example: You attack, I activate Mirror Force, you Trap Stun, and I use Seven Tools of the Bandit After the chain resolves, the Attack Declaration response is over, but it is still the Battle Step. You could use Book of Moon at this time to set your attacking monster here so that its not destroyed by Mirror Force.

Drop the Seven Tools or add something to negate Seven Tools because your example is pretty messed up by the fact that the Attacking monster would have been destroyed by Mirror Force.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

That's because it is still the Battle Step after Attack Declaration where cards can be activated.

Yes, I realize that now. I was just saying, at that time, it led me to that conclusion.

[darkwolf777]

Yeah I wrote it in a rush, sorry about that, but so long as you understand what I mean by it, the example placed is irrelevant :D

 

Change it so that at attack declaration, I activate Mirror Force and you activate Seven Tools.

 

After that resolves, since its still the Battle Step, I can activate Compulsory Evacuation Device to return the attacking monster to the hand.

 

That should be a better example.

[Zazubat]

Yeah I wrote it in a rush, sorry about that, but so long as you understand what I mean by it, the example placed is irrelevant :D

 

Change it so that at attack declaration, I activate Mirror Force and you activate Seven Tools.

 

After that resolves, since its still the Battle Step, I can activate Compulsory Evacuation Device to return the attacking monster to the hand.

 

That should be a better example.

I have been reading just snips of this, but for what I understand, there's two steps in the battle step you can activate cards?

[darkwolf777]

I have been reading just snips of this, but for what I understand, there's two steps in the battle step you can activate cards?

 

If you want to think of it that way, the Battle Step encompasses before Attack Declaration, the Attack Declaration, and after Attack Declaration (before the Damage Step begins).

 

You're welcome to as many chains as you'd like to create during the Battle Step. Just understand there is only one response chain to the Attack Declaration where cards that specifically respond to Attack Declaration can be played, such as Mirror Force, Dimensional Prison, etc.

[Nathanael D. Striker]

Can Warning negate Black Garden?