newhat Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Though you get it through activating the "CARD" not the "EFFECT" which I have read is a different thing, so wouldn't it make sense what Evil said? A related question: Do the effects of Hysteric Sign and Fire Formation - Tenki activate on the same Chain Link as the activation of the card, or do they activate on a new chain after the card resolves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Ah, my mistake. Cards that state "when you activate this card" will get their effects when the card resolves, just like any Spell/Trap. They don't require an additional chain link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Something I just thought to ask is if there are more than 3 monsters on the same name in the grave, can Symbol of Heritage be activated to Special Summon 1 of them? In other words, does Symbol of Heritage require the exact number, or does "3" act as a meter that must be filled before it can become playable. It mentions the Harpie ladies in its rulings, but it also only mentions them as being a total of 3 in the graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Does Constellar Star Chart stack? If it does, then can you provide the reasoning with it (in case I ever have to explain it on DN). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Yes, it stacks. It says "Once per turn," not "the effect of "Constellar Star Chart" can only be activated once per turn". You can also bounce a used copy and play it again for a reuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 K, thx red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Something I just thought to ask is if there are more than 3 monsters on the same name in the grave, can Symbol of Heritage be activated to Special Summon 1 of them? In other words, does Symbol of Heritage require the exact number, or does "3" act as a meter that must be filled before it can become playable. It mentions the Harpie ladies in its rulings, but it also only mentions them as being a total of 3 in the graveyard. Typically, if it requires an exact number, no more or less, it will state "exactly 3". Granted, we didnt have things that counted as a name while in the Graveyard when Symbol was released, but the ruling to my knowledge would not change. So long as there are 3 with the same name (or more), you can use Symbol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 That's why I was asking, because it doesn't say on the card "exact", but it's possible that was an oversight. I suppose we will have to wait and see what might come of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Well, it wouldnt have been much of an oversight, since at the time, it was not possible to have more than 3 cards with the same name in your Graveyard. But I still expect that since it doesn't say "exactly 3", you only need a minimum of 3 to activate Symbol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 For effects that activate in the End Phase, in the Standby Phase, and at the end of the Battle Phase, do they form a Chain or activate and resolve on separate chains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 For effects that activate in the End Phase, in the Standby Phase, and at the end of the Battle Phase, do they form a Chain or activate and resolve on separate chains?Effects that activate during a Phase do not chain with each other. Multiple Gladiator Beasts tagging out will use their own chains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Can I Special Summon Spell Striker from the banished zone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Original Errata says "From your hand", so I'd say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Original Errata says "From your hand", so I'd say no.well the original erratas have known for being changed to make the effect different, wouldn't be surprised if it was with this card too, but I'll take your word for it for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 When a card does not specify where its Special Summoning from, then the default is to consider it an inherent Special Summon done while the card is in your hand only. You cannot Special Summon Spell Striker from the Graveyard with its own Special Summoning Condition; only from the hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 When a card does not specify where its Special Summoning from, then the default is to consider it an inherent Special Summon done while the card is in your hand only. You cannot Special Summon Spell Striker from the Graveyard with its own Special Summoning Condition; only from the hand.If you could summon those kinds of cards anywhere... I would not play this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Which is exactly WHY the rule is only from the hand unless specified on the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Why Konami did this is silly, I mean every other card say (from your hand) or something like that, so why not this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Why Konami did this is silly, I mean every other card say (from your hand) or something like that, so why not this one?Before a certain point in time they did not do that. For example: CED - EotE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Why Konami did this is silly, I mean every other card say (from your hand) or something like that, so why not this one?Spell Striker is before they started doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Right. The problem-solving card text is only about a year old. Spell Striker is several years old and I don't think it's been reprinted recently. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's questions like this that prompted them to specify "from your hand" whenever writing a Summoning Condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Right. The problem-solving card text is only about a year old. Spell Striker is several years old and I don't think it's been reprinted recently. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's questions like this that prompted them to specify "from your hand" whenever writing a Summoning Condition.that would only make sense, I mean yeah since it doesn't say from graveyard of course it shouldn't be from there, or the banished zone, but it doesn't say from hand either, so that makes it as confusing. Well, it's not really the greatest card anyways, I just saw it in a match, and thought, where? So I had to know it in case I for some reason wanted to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Is Mischief of the Yokai's second effect (removing from the Graveyard) a quick effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Is Mischief of the Yokai's second effect (removing from the Graveyard) a quick effect?Yes, it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 that would only make sense, I mean yeah since it doesn't say from graveyard of course it shouldn't be from there, or the banished zone, but it doesn't say from hand either, so that makes it as confusing. Well, it's not really the greatest card anyways, I just saw it in a match, and thought, where? So I had to know it in case I for some reason wanted to use it. Even before the new text, the default was "from the hand, unless the card explicitly says you can Summon it with that effect from another location". Is Mischief of the Yokai's second effect (removing from the Graveyard) a quick effect? It should be, since it's the effect of a Trap Card (even in the Graveyard), and therefore can be used during either turn unless stated otherwise (such as Breakthrough Skill explicitly says your turn, as does Skill Successor). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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