newhat Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Tsukuyomi is veilered. At the End Phase of my turn, if my opponent does not want Tsukuyomi to return to my hand, do I have a choice on whether veiler resolves first or not? My understanding is that I'd have priority to resolve effects and would pass, then my opponent would and pass, then I'd have no choice but to return Tsukuyomi and wouldn't be able to due to Veiler. Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Tsukuyomi is veilered. At the End Phase of my turn, if my opponent does not want Tsukuyomi to return to my hand, do I have a choice on whether veiler resolves first or not? My understanding is that I'd have priority to resolve effects and would pass, then my opponent would and pass, then I'd have no choice but to return Tsukuyomi and wouldn't be able to due to Veiler. You do not have a choice of when Veiler resolves. That choice always belongs to controller of Veiler's effect. Your only options are to activate Tsukuyomi's effect (while Veiler is still applied) or pass priority to the opponent to see if they would end Veiler's effect. The opponent can only end Veiler's effect when they have priority to do so, hence why you must pass priority to see if they will. You cannot keep passing back and forth for eternity. After both players pass, the turn player will be forced to activate/resolve one of their mandatory effects. If your opponent chooses not to end Veiler, then you're out of luck. Tsukuyomi will end up activating and will be negated. If your opponent chooses to end Veiler, then you can then activate Tsukuyomi and return it to the hand. tl;dl The controller of Veiler has 100% control of whether or not Tsukuyomi will return to the hand by its effect. Perhaps asking nicely will help coax your opponent into giving her effect back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 You do not have a choice of when Veiler resolves. That choice always belongs to controller of Veiler. Your only option is whether to activate Tsukuyomi's effect or pass priority to the opponent.You're always too literal, darkwolf. My question was whether I have the option of forcing my opponent to resolve veiler before I activate Tsukuyomi's return effect, which I don't because if the opponent passes priority back to me, I'm forced to activate Tsukuyomi's effect before Veiler's has resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 You're always too literal, darkwolf. My question was whether I have the option of forcing my opponent to resolve veiler before I activate Tsukuyomi's return effect, which I don't because if the opponent passes priority back to me, I'm forced to activate Tsukuyomi's effect before Veiler's has resolved. Actually, i don't know what you're talking about by me being too literal. Regardless, the first line should take care of the answer. You have no control in it ;p If you want answers from me, you'll get them via long drawn out sentences. I'm against simple Yes/No answers and would rather give out answers like that if it makes how it works entirely clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Actually, i don't know what you're talking about by me being too literal. Regardless, the first line should take care of the answer. If you want answers from me, you'll get them via long drawn out sentences.Second line. Don't ninja edit me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Second line. Don't ninja edit me. Then read (or re-read) the 4th line which you probably missed as well since i'm always editing my posts until i'm completely satisfied. You cannot keep passing back and forth for eternity. After both players pass, the turn player will be forced to activate/resolve one of their mandatory effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Then re-read the 4th line which you probably missed as well since i'm always editing my posts until i'm completely satisfied. You cannot keep passing back and forth for eternity. After both players pass, the turn player will be forced to activate/resolve one of their mandatory effects.Which is essentially what I said in my post that you responded to, from which a simple yes or no would have sufficed. :\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Honestly, your first question wasn't clear at all that that was what you wanted to know. Either way, No yes or no answers (unless for some reason it doesn't need explaining, like that Prohibition question) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 It was clear enough for another member to completely understand it and respond correctly. :\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 It was clear enough for another member to completely understand it and respond correctly. :\ You mean the person who simply answered "Correct"? The question was... Question: At the End Phase of my turn, if my opponent does not want Tsukuyomi to return to my hand, do I have a choice on whether veiler resolves first or not? Answer: Correct That's not even a question that can be answered by saying "Correct". Also, if "Correct" meant "Yes" meaning "I have a choice on whether Veiler resolves first or not", then that would be wrong, because the turn player does NOT have a choice of whether the opponent's Veiler resolves first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 You mean the person who simply answered "Correct"? The question was... Question: At the End Phase of my turn, if my opponent does not want Tsukuyomi to return to my hand, do I have a choice on whether veiler resolves first or not? Answer: Correct That's not even a question that can be answered by saying "Correct". Also, if "Correct" meant "Yes" meaning "I have a choice on whether Veiler resolves first or not", then that would be wrong, because the turn player does NOT have a choice of whether the opponent's Veiler resolves first.Except that wasn't what he was answering, he was responding to: "My understanding is that I'd have priority to resolve effects and would pass, then my opponent would and pass, then I'd have no choice but to return Tsukuyomi and wouldn't be able to due to Veiler." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 "My understanding is that I'd have priority to resolve effects and would pass, then my opponent would and pass, then I'd have no choice but to return Tsukuyomi and wouldn't be able to due to Veiler." Except this line is not a question. Also, it does not represent what you wanted to know. You said it yourself that you wanted to know if you could force your opponent to resolve their Veiler first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Except this line is not a question. Also, it does not represent what you wanted to know.I was attempting to answer my own question. He told me I was right, in so saying that I already knew what I wanted to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 I was attempting to answer my own question. He told me I was right, in so saying that I already knew what I wanted to know. Well, if you came to the right conclusion then I suppose that's that. If I didn't understand it, then I think the question and/or answer was written too poorly and needed explanation anyway, but you know what they say about opinions. I will continue to be literal. Who knows who else might not understand it >_>; I doubt anyone comes around to read old Q&As, but if someone does, hopefully my answers are right and understandable x.x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Don't worry, darkwolf, we still love you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Question: Am I allowed to reveal the same monster multiple times for my Koa'ki monsters maintance. Or do I have to reveal a seperate one for each? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Question: Am I allowed to reveal the same monster multiple times for my Koa'ki monsters maintance. Or do I have to reveal a seperate one for each?You can reveal the same monster for each, provided it meets the conditions of said Koa'Ki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Question: Am I allowed to reveal the same monster multiple times for my Koa'ki monsters maintance. Or do I have to reveal a seperate one for each?It doesn't say "reveal until the End Phase" like Golden Ladybug, so it just reveals once and then your opponent would have no way of knowing it's the same exact monster or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Does Double-Edged Sword Technique inflict damage based on the monsters' ATK on the field, or in the Graveyard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Does Double-Edged Sword Technique inflict damage based on the monsters' ATK on the field, or in the Graveyard? The damage is based on the ATK the monster had while on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 So let's see... [1] Can I activate Toon Table of Contents if I don't have a valid target in Deck? [2] Can you activate quick play Spell Cards during the End Phase? Like, if I play 2 Super Rejuvenation during Main Phase, then draw into another one during the End Phase, can I play it? Same with Hand Destruction. [3] Do you have to search off White Stone of Legend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 So let's see... [1] Can I activate Toon Table of Contents if I don't have a valid target in Deck? [2] Can you activate quick play Spell Cards during the End Phase? Like, if I play 2 Super Rejuvenation during Main Phase, then draw into another one during the End Phase, can I play it? Same with Hand Destruction. [3] Do you have to search off White Stone of Legend?[1] No [2] Yes, but if you discard for the hand limit during the End Phase you cannot activate anything else unless a card effect was triggered and activated. [3] 'tis mandatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfly9078 Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 If I activate Wild Nature's Release (Increase the ATK of 1 face-up Beast-Type or Beast-Warrior-Type monster on the field by an amount equal to its DEF. Destroy the monster during the End Phase of the turn that this card is activated.), then Forbidden Robe (Target 1 face-up monster on the field; Until the End Phase, it loses 600 ATK, but cards' effects cannot target or destroy it.), both on the same monster, does FR stop WNR from targeting the monster for the attack boost? or does WNR increase the attack since it had already resolved? and then can I use FR to stop WNR from destroying the monster during the End Phase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Evilswarm Thunderbrd is the only monster I controlI play Compulsory Exiting DeviceI use Thunderbird's effect to banish it. Does Device still work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 If I activate Wild Nature's Release (Increase the ATK of 1 face-up Beast-Type or Beast-Warrior-Type monster on the field by an amount equal to its DEF. Destroy the monster during the End Phase of the turn that this card is activated.), then Forbidden Robe (Target 1 face-up monster on the field; Until the End Phase, it loses 600 ATK, but cards' effects cannot target or destroy it.), both on the same monster, does FR stop WNR from targeting the monster for the attack boost? or does WNR increase the attack since it had already resolved? and then can I use FR to stop WNR from destroying the monster during the End Phase? No, once applied, Wild Nature's Release's effect wont go away even if the monster becomes unaffected by Spell Cards. Normal Spells like this don't continuously target the monster, so after Wild Nature's Release is applied, it goes to the Graveyard and that's done with it. It does not continuously target the monster. Yes, Forbidden Garment can protect your monster from being destroyed during the End Phase. Considering you control both effects, you can end Wild Nature's Release's effect first, then end Forbidden Garment's protection. Evilswarm Thunderbrd is the only monster I controlI play Compulsory Exiting DeviceI use Thunderbird's effect to banish it. Does Device still work? Yes, Device is still applied and the player who still has monsters returns one to their hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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