darkwolf777 Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 A card is worded like this:"Send up to 2 LIGHT Main-Type Monsters from your Deck to the Graveyard. Shuffle your deck afterwards. Effects of cards sent to the Graveyard by this card's effect cannot be activated." Best guess, are the effects still unable to be activated if they are, say Special Summoned from the Graveyard? Main-Type? In any case, the effect should only apply while they're still in the Graveyard. If they leave, its no longer applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Main-Type? In any case, the effect should only apply while they're still in the Graveyard. If they leave, its no longer applied.Person who made it was stupid. Especially because that card is now stupid broken.Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 I have 1000 Life Points, my opponent has 1500.I equip Megamorph to my opponent's Blue Eyes White Dragon and activate the effect of Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind on it as well.On their turn, they attack activating Reinforcement to try to destroy Gale, but I chain Shrink and Mirror Wall. What happens to BEWD's ATK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel. Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 I have 1000 Life Points, my opponent has 1500.I equip Megamorph to my opponent's Blue Eyes White Dragon and activate the effect of Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind on it as well.On their turn, they attack activating Reinforcement to try to destroy Gale, but I chain Shrink and Mirror Wall. What happens to BEWD's ATK?Edited:While your Life Points are lower than your opponent's, the original ATK of the equipped monster is doubled. While your Life Points are higher, the original ATK of the equipped monster is halved.(3000x2)=6000If you control a "Blackwing" monster other than "Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind", you can Special Summon this card from your hand. Once per turn, you can halve the ATK and DEF of 1 face-up monster your opponent controls.(6000/2)=3000Target face-up monster gains 500 ATK until the End Phase.(3000+500)=3500Select 1 face-up monster on the field. The original ATK of that monster is halved until the end of this turn.(3500/2)=1750Halve the ATK of all your opponent's attacking monsters. During each of your Standby Phases, pay 2000 Life Points or destroy this card.(1750/2)=875 Blue Eyes White Dragon's would be eight-hundred-seventy-five.Where you lazy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Edited:While your Life Points are lower than your opponent's, the original ATK of the equipped monster is doubled. While your Life Points are higher, the original ATK of the equipped monster is halved.(3000x2)=6000If you control a "Blackwing" monster other than "Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind", you can Special Summon this card from your hand. Once per turn, you can halve the ATK and DEF of 1 face-up monster your opponent controls.(6000/2)=3000Target face-up monster gains 500 ATK until the End Phase.(3000+500)=3500Select 1 face-up monster on the field. The original ATK of that monster is halved until the end of this turn.(3500/2)=1750Halve the ATK of all your opponent's attacking monsters. During each of your Standby Phases, pay 2000 Life Points or destroy this card.(1750/2)=875 Blue Eyes White Dragon's would be eight-hundred-seventy-five.Where you lazy?Actually, at the time of Shrink it would go to 1500 because BEWD's ORIGNAL Attack is 3000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel. Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Am confused explain more.Edited:Never mind, i get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 I have 1000 Life Points, my opponent has 1500.I equip Megamorph to my opponent's Blue Eyes White Dragon and activate the effect of Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind on it as well.On their turn, they attack activating Reinforcement to try to destroy Gale, but I chain Shrink and Mirror Wall. What happens to BEWD's ATK?3000/2(Megamorph)=1500/2(Gale)=750+500(Reinforcements)=1250 Then *^&*^& Because Shrink so 3000/2(Shrink)=1500/2(Megamorph)=750/2(Mirror Wall)=325Since Megamorph is continuous and is affected by the controller of megamorph's life points, iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Since it's a new page, I'll ask again. If Prohibition has declared Elemental HERO Neos Alius, can I Set him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Is it true that if you chain MST to Starlight Road and destroy it, they won't get to Summon Stardust Dragon and/or resolve the rest of the effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Yes, because MST negates the Spells and Traps that it destroys, making it wholly superior to the vast majority of all cards. No, of course not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel. Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Since it's a new page, I'll ask again. If Prohibition has declared Elemental HERO Neos Alius, can I Set him?Can't touch the field. Unless you destroy that card, Prohibition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Yes, because MST negates the Spells and Traps that it destroys, making it wholly superior to the vast majority of all cards. No, of course not. What? That was a legit question because someone at my locals claimed that Starlight has to actually be on the field to resolve and destroy its target. But thanks for the douchey answer, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 What? That was a legit question because someone at my locals claimed that Starlight has to actually be on the field to resolve and destroy its target. But thanks for the douchey answer, lol.I'm not aware of any non-Continuous cards with that restriction that don't specifically say "This card must be face up to activate and resolve this effect". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 "If MST changes the amount of spells that would be destroyed to less than 2, Stardust will not be summoned. Starlight Road will still negate the card." This is the ruling I've always been told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 That doesn't make much sense to me, at the time you're activating it it would have destroyed 2 cards, and does in fact sucessfully negate the card it was used against, so you should be able to summon Stardust anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 "If MST changes the amount of spells that would be destroyed to less than 2, Stardust will not be summoned. Starlight Road will still negate the card." This is the ruling I've always been told. Ah, okay, cool. That's what I thought I was just confirming. Appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 That doesn't make much sense to me, at the time you're activating it it would have destroyed 2 cards, and does in fact sucessfully negate the card it was used against, so you should be able to summon Stardust anyway... The way SLR is worded is that it negates the card whether 2 or more cards would be destroyed or not. It's worded that Stardust is only summoned if you negated an effect that would have actually destroyed 2 or more cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 The way SLR is worded is that it negates the card whether 2 or more cards would be destroyed or not. It's worded that Stardust is only summoned if you negated an effect that would have actually destroyed 2 or more cards. How ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 How ridiculous. It's ridiculous because it's worded in a specific way? Isn't that like the entirety of yugioh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 It's ridiculous because it's worded in a specific way? Isn't that like the entirety of yugioh?It's ridiculous because even with the way it's worded, it can easily be interpreted the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 I'm not sure where the confusion is with Starlight Road, but some of these posts don't make sense. "When a card or effect is activated that destroys 2 or more cards you control" is the activation condition. After you activate this card, this line serves no purpose. It does not come into play at all when resolving the effect. "Negate the activation, and if you do, destroy that card, then you can Special Summon 1 "Stardust Dragon" from your Extra Deck" is the effects. The effects must perform each step in order to continue onto the next step as effects tend to do. Therefore, it must: Negate the activation -> Destroy That Card -> You can Special Summon 1 "Stardust Dragon". Therefore, if for some reason Starlight Road cannot negate the activation (such as Splendid Venus is summoned), then it wont destroy the card or summon Stardust Dragon. Also, if for some reason it cannot destroy that card its negating (such as the card in question is no longer on the field to be destroyed, such as when MST is chained and destroys it first), then it cannot summon Stardust Dragon. "If MST changes the amount of spells that would be destroyed to less than 2, Stardust will not be summoned. Starlight Road will still negate the card." This is the ruling I've always been told. It does NOT matter what happens to the two cards that "would be destroyed" that allowed Starlight Road to activate in the first place. Stardust Dragon can be summoned in that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 If I somehow flip Call of the Haunted facedown while it's connected to the revived monster, would the monster it summoned die? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 I don't think so, facedown it wouldn't be able to apply its effect that would destroy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 If I somehow flip Call of the Haunted facedown while it's connected to the revived monster, would the monster it summoned die? No, it would have no effect on the monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 What "hand traps" cards are affected by Dimensional Fissure? Only the ones that say "to the Graveyard"? Because at worlds, Swift Scarecrow could use its effect, but it's removed instead of being sent to the Graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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