Agro Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 Someone was saying something about like Thunder of Ruler and Frozen Soul and phases not stacking or something.If they don't stack, then it's the same as what it was before. If you activate 2 Reckless in one turn, they don't stack and you still only skip 2 draw phases. Though I'm getting the feeling that Thunder of Ruler and Frozen Soul have completely different rulings either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 Thunder and Frozen don't stack either. It was miss-ruled at previous events, but it's been confirmed now that if a player uses Thunder of Ruler and Frozen Soul in the same turn before the battle phase, they don't stack and that turns BP is the only one skipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 Can Zephyros's effect be re-activated if it is negated by... A ) Divine Wrath? B ) Skull Meister? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 Can Zephyros's effect be re-activated if it is negated by... A ) Divine Wrath? B ) Skull Meister? No, you cannot for either situation. You can never reactivate an effect of a card that can only be activated once per duel more than once per duel, whether the activation or effect of the card is negated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 Thanks. If Ryko if flipped by Chaos Infinity, can Ryko destroy a card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 Thanks. If Ryko if flipped by Chaos Infinity, can Ryko destroy a card? Yes. It will activate after Chaos Infinity's chain completely resolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 Yes. It will activate after Chaos Infinity's chain completely resolves.So, then why does Photon Papilloperative make Ryko miss timing? Someone said that in the current thread on it, IDK if it's correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 So, then why does Photon Papilloperative make Ryko miss timing? Someone said that in the current thread on it, IDK if it's correct. Flip Effects are mandatory. They can never miss the timing. Photon Papilloperative will not change this. Only cards that state "(Flip Effects are not activated at this time)" would cause Flip Effects to not activate when they would due to being flipped (such as Ceasefire). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 1: I target my opponent's Set Trap with Nobleman of Extermination. He chains it. I chain Malfunction. Will the Trap be destroyed by Extermination? 2: If a Set Prime Material Dragon is flipped face-up by Ceasefire will its effect change the burn to heal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 1: I target my opponent's Set Trap with Nobleman of Extermination. He chains it. I chain Malfunction. Will the Trap be destroyed by Extermination? Chain Link #1: Nobleman of ExterminationChain LInk #2: Chained Trap CardChain LInk #3: Malfunction Resolving: Chain LInk #3: Malfunction negates the activation and sets the Trap Card.Chain LInk #2: The activation was negated.Chain LInk #1: Nobleman of Extermination destroys the Trap as it is Set when Nobleman attempts to destroy it. 2: If a Set Prime Material Dragon is flipped face-up by Ceasefire will its effect change the burn to heal? No. The player will still take damage. New Continuous Effects are not applied while a Chain Link is still resolving. They will begin applying after the Chain Link resolved. This means that: Prime Material Dragon flipped up by Ceasefire will not cause Ceasefire to recover Life Points.Des Wombat flipped up by Ceasefire will not make the damage zero.Elemental Hero Wildheart can be destroyed by Acid Trap Hole.Ultimate Axon Kicker can be destroyed by Acid Trap Hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Wanna make sure: If I activate "Gamushara" to and change my face-down "Brain Jacker" to face-up Attack Position, can "Brain Jacker" activate it's FLIP before being technically destroyed by battle? For cards that in general say "when X monster destroys a monster by battle", if your monster is destroyed along with your opponent's monster. Do all of them generally dissappear? Do they generally still do the effects? if some do and some don't, which ones can?Primary examples are Goyo Guardian and Horn of the Phantom Beast, though I'm can't think of others ATM. Does Chaos Sorcerer need to have the target be face-up to resolve? Example, "Book of Moon" on the target. Cards that gain Spell Counters from a same Spell activation, are they chained among themselves or are they each independently starting their own chain and just resolve simultaneously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Wanna make sure: If I activate "Gamushara" to and change my face-down "Brain Jacker" to face-up Attack Position, can "Brain Jacker" activate it's FLIP before being technically destroyed by battle? For cards that in general say "when X monster destroys a monster by battle", if your monster is destroyed along with your opponent's monster. Do all of them generally dissappear? Do they generally still do the effects? if some do and some don't, which ones can?Primary examples are Goyo Guardian and Horn of the Phantom Beast, though I'm can't think of others ATM. Does Chaos Sorcerer need to have the target be face-up to resolve?Example, "Book of Moon" on the target. Cards that gain Spell Counters from a same Spell activation, are they chained among themselves or are they each independently starting their own chain and just resolve simultaneously? Yes. Brain Jacker will activate after Gamushara resolves and steal the monster. No damage calculation will be conducted. If the cards say "and sends it to the Graveyard", they will not activate in the event of a tie because they're no longer on the field at that point. If the cards do not say that, they activate while both monsters are still on the field, and will work. Yes. If the target is not face-up at resolution, Chaos Sorcerer does not banish it (but still can't attack). All cards that gain Spell Counters when a Spell Card is activated do so with Continuous effects that don't use the Chain. They will gain Counters when a Spell Card resolves, during the Chain, in the order that the turn player chooses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Wanna make sure: If I activate "Gamushara" to and change my face-down "Brain Jacker" to face-up Attack Position, can "Brain Jacker" activate it's FLIP before being technically destroyed by battle? Gamushara activates when an attack is declared, during the Battle Step. After it resolves, Brain Jacker will activate.and can take control of a monster. For cards that in general say "when X monster destroys a monster by battle", if your monster is destroyed along with your opponent's monster. Do all of them generally dissappear? Do they generally still do the effects? if some do and some don't, which ones can?Primary examples are Goyo Guardian and Horn of the Phantom Beast, though I'm can't think of others ATM. When an effect states that it only needs to "Destroy a monster by battle", then it will activate at the End of the Damage Step, regardless of whether or not the monster is still on the field When an effect states that it must "Destroy a monster by battle and send it to the Graveyard", then the monster needs to be face-up on the field when the monster is "sent to the Graveyard" at the End of the Damage Step. The effect wont activate if the monster is removed before then or if its also destroyed and sent to the Graveyard by battle. For an effect like Horn of the Phantom Beast or Armor Changer where the equipped monster gains an ability, the ability activates at the end of the Damage Step as well. Regardless of the two types of wording, due to the nature of it being an Equipped Card, the Equipped Card must be on the field at the End of the Damage Step for it to activate. If it is not, you will not get the effect. Does Chaos Sorcerer need to have the target be face-up to resolve?Example, "Book of Moon" on the target. Chaos Sorcerer's target must remain face-up, otherwise the effect will not resolve successfully. Since the effect still activated, Chaos Sorcerer will not be able to attack. Many cards do not need to have their targets be the same during resolution. Others do. In regards to Problem Solving Card Text, using Chaos Sorcerer as the example, it will say "Banish the target." Effects that require the targets to remain the same will tend to have the word "target" used to describe the cards you selected. Otherwise, they'll not use the word "target' and just say "Banish that card". Cards that gain Spell Counters from a same Spell activation, are they chained among themselves or are they each independently starting their own chain and just resolve simultaneously? Adding a Spell Counter is a Continuous Effect. It does not start a chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Somebody once told me that Secret Village works while you have a face-down Spellcaster, but since there's no way to confirm, that makes no sense. Just to check, does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Somebody once told me that Secret Village works while you have a face-down Spellcaster, but since there's no way to confirm, that makes no sense. Just to check, does it? Doesn't work. A Spellcaster must be face-up for it to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 That's what I figured. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 To expand, if BOTH players need to confirm a monster's type/attribute/etc, face-down monsters don't work. For stuff like Contact Fusions or tributing a specific type, only the player who's making the action needs to confirm (though for contact fusions you still have to show the card just to prove you aren't cheating) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 The ruling for "Question" states: "Your opponent cannot check your Graveyard from the activation of "Question" onwards. Your opponent cannot check your Graveyard even if he activates "D.D. Crow"/"Disappear"/etc: The term "onwards" is confusing. It makes it sound like they can't for the rest of the duel, but that doesn't make sense. It seems like maybe they meant even if something is chained or is otherwise activated at that time. Can anyone enlighten me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 The ruling for "Question" states: "Your opponent cannot check your Graveyard from the activation of "Question" onwards. Your opponent cannot check your Graveyard even if he activates "D.D. Crow"/"Disappear"/etc: The term "onwards" is confusing. It makes it sound like they can't for the rest of the duel, but that doesn't make sense. It seems like maybe they meant even if something is chained or is otherwise activated at that time. Can anyone enlighten me? Until "Question" resolves, you cannot look at the Graveyard. You can chain cards to "Question" that would use cards in the Graveyard, such as using D.D. Crow or Call of the Haunted, etc, but they must choose a valid target without looking at the Graveyard for a target. They have to know what's in the Graveyard by memory and choose a valid target that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 That sounds really weird. Is it possible to call a target without looking at the Graveyard and actually targeting it? In that case, I suppose it would be the same as if you were to guess correctly for Question, making it pointless. Anyways, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Wiki doesn't say anything about this-Abysscale Kraken's effect.I can use it in the Damage Step, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Wiki doesn't say anything about this-Abysscale Kraken's effect.I can use it in the Damage Step, right? No, you cannot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 It also doesn't say any rulings on monsters that tribute themselves for their effects, something I ran into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 It also doesn't say any rulings on monsters that tribute themselves for their effects, something I ran into. Yes, you can use Abysscale Kraken to negate the activated effect of a monster that tributed itself for its cost. Kraken will negate the activated effect of a monster. It doesn't negate the effects of monsters in the sense you're thinking of it in where it requires the monster to be face-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 If a monster has a summon effect, how can I tell if that effect is an inherent Summon condition or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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