Miror B Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Which part of the effect we talking about...?The part that activates .-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 The wording of Galaxy-Eyes actually agrees with me on this. Galaxy-Eyes does not state it can activate multiple times in the same chain.Look at Horus LV8. It has a multi-trigger effect. Why? Because it states that it can negate "any" spell card the opponent activate.Key word there being "any". The presence of that word signifies that it's a multi-trigger. Galaxy-Eyes has no such nor similar key wording or phrasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 The problem is Konami Dem. Trying to ursurp a ruling made by the creators of the game doesn't exactly work by telling everyone BUT the creators that the ruling is wrong. Unless you get Konami to change their mind it's pretty much a BKSS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 I already emailed them.Also, Konami hasn't officially said that GEPD is multi-trigger. They've only said "It's Galaxy-Eyes".That could mean either "Of course it can" or "Of course it can't". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 I already emailed them.Also, Konami hasn't officially said that GEPD is multi-trigger. They've only said "It's Galaxy-Eyes".That could mean either "Of course it can" or "Of course it can't".They said: You can. Its Galaxy-Eyes can use its effect more than once in a singleChain.Taken straight from the DN admin chat btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Meta, I think I've made it clear who I'm arguing against.Calling the Admin Chat proof enough is ridiculous, since I'm arguing that they're wrong. That's like saying that they're right because they're right. Now, if evilfusion explained it to me, and told me otherwise, then I'd believe him, seeing as I know him and I know that he knows exactly wha the hell he's doing. Until he or Konami explains of says otherwise, I'm standing by this. I've given a logical and correct argument, and I've yet to see someone disprove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 I'm just saying they pretty much disproved it by giving the ruling handed to them by Konami. Logical or not that's what Konami said, and unless Konami says otherwise Idk what else :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 But my point is that Konami hasn't said. They haven't stated officially or unoffically wether or not that ruling is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 According to the email they sent a Konami official has pretty much said it is. You can ask them for an explanation but pretty much until you get an email back from Konami there's not much here to argue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Konami said "It's Galaxy-Eyes".That's it. Unless they've said something else in the past hour that I haven't seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 But they said it can. Whether they've given a reason or not isn't the issue. You can ask them for a reason if you want one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Again. I haven't seen anything specifically saying that GEPD's effect is muli-trigger. All I've seen them say is "It's Galaxy-Eyes", which can be interpreted multiple ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Here is the email conversation from Konami. You can. Its Galaxy-Eyes can use its effect more than once in a singleChain. -----Original Message-----From: RedshiftSent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:15 AMTo: [email protected]Subject: Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon What happens if I attack Light and Darkness Dragon with Galaxy-Eyes PhotonDragon, and decide to use its effect? I know Light and Darkness Dragon willchain to it to negate it, but can I activate Galaxy-Eyes' effect again afterthat? Thanks.Read the first 2 words of Konami's reply. They have been bolded for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 And now that someone's finally shown me this, I can actually somewhat believe it. And yet, I'm far more inclined to believe that Konami doesn't know how to play their own card game.*Sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 I already posted this :/I even copy/pasted that from the admin chat where you were arguing!You were just too stubborn to read the argument presented Dem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 I read it. I had seen no indication it was from Konami.I'm not being stubborn here. I am actually listening to what everyone else is saying. Again, had someone pointed that email out to me and outright stated it was from Konami (Which no one at the time had), then I would have shut up about it right then and there. I still don't accept the ruling as correct nor do I believe my explanation as to why its false is incorrect, but for the time being, I'll go quietly about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 [12:12:05 AM] Asher Roberts: Edit: Smote by the hand of Konami. Quote:You can. Its Galaxy-Eyes can use its effect more than once in a singleChain. -----Original Message-----From: RedshiftSent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:15 AMTo: [email protected]Subject: Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon What happens if I attack Light and Darkness Dragon with Galaxy-Eyes PhotonDragon, and decide to use its effect? I know Light and Darkness Dragon willchain to it to negate it, but can I activate Galaxy-Eyes' effect again afterthat? Thanks. Pretty sure that's a good indication it's from Konami :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 *Sigh*No, I never saw that message. After quickly scanning over the admin chat again, just a few minutes ago, I noticed that half the messages there from before I logged out hadn't shown up initially. And again. I still don't accept that as a correct ruling, due to the wording of the cards stating otherwise. But, I will cease my argument (I've said all there is to say anyways) and remain silent on the issue further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Alright that makes sense. And I'm not saying you can't argue, just that trying to tell everyone a ruling Konami said is wrong is like telling the YCM mods that we need a 3rd admin. Gotta go to the big guy. Luckily contacting Konami is quite a lot easier than contacting YCMaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Konami needs that new person in charge more than we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 From what I remember, Quick-Effects with no other way to limit infinite uses cannot be activated multiple times in the same chain. Evilfusion, from our last Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon discussion, also believes that if activating an effect again would invalidate its first activation, it cannot be activated again. If there were more cards based on chains, or number of monster effect activations, or anything similar, I could activate "Galaxy-Eyes" to itself in a Million-sized Chain and get credit for all those activations. Its more than likely that you cannot activate "Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon" more than once in the same chain to prevent infinite stacking. I've long have had no faith in the TCG and its idea for rulings, so based on my own gut feelings feel the TCG's email is wrong/misinformed as most things are with the TCG =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Wait a minute. That's from Konami US, the stupid branch. You wanna believe them after September 1st format? Question: Galaxy-Eyes attacks Madolce Chouxvalier. I chain Madolce Manners. Can Galaxy-Eyes activate it's effect and avoid death? This is damage calculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Wait a minute. That's from Konami US, the stupid branch. You wanna believe them after September 1st format? Question: Galaxy-Eyes attacks Madolce Chouxvalier. I chain Madolce Manners. Can Galaxy-Eyes activate it's effect and avoid death? This is damage calculation.Not in Damage Step, no. Galaxy-Eyes can activate anywhere in the Battle Step (Attack Declaration all the way to just before Damage Step) but not any time after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Oh ok cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Somehow need to ask Snowman Eater vs Dolkka. Does Eater activate durin the Damage Step or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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