Agro Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 No. You can activate them all in the same chain, but once you've added one, the others fail to resolve, as you have already skipped your Normal Draw, and cannot do so again.Maintenance only requires that you send 1 for all of them, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Maintenance only requires that you send 1 for all of them, right?No, it's one for each one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Maintenance only requires that you send 1 for all of them, right? No; you must ditch 1 Core for each Koa'ki Meiru. You must have gotten confused with the "revealing" part of the cost, since you can reveal the same Rock-type monster to save all your Rock-type Koa'ki Meirus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Oh, you meant stack the maintainaince costs? No, you must pay each cost separately. But for revealing, you still have the card in hand, so if it's the same Type as another's cost, you can reveal the same one again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Is there an official ruling on if you can detach monsters when Macro Cosmos or DF is face-up on the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Is there an official ruling on if you can detach monsters when Macro Cosmos or DF is face-up on the field?Detatching only sends it to the Graveyard as a game mechanic so the cost isn't actually sending a card to the Graveyard. So you can. Though DF doesn't care since materials aren't monsters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Detach is similar to "Tribute" or "discard" in that costs using those terms dont care where the card ends up. However, "send to Graveyard", "Return to hand/Deck", and "discard to Graveyard" DO require the cards to go somewhere specific and the inability of them to do so, by effect or condition, prevents them from being used in that fashion as a cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 No. You can activate them all in the same chain, but once you've added one, the others fail to resolve, as you have already skipped your Normal Draw, and cannot do so again. I meant the "and/or send 1 "Koa'ki Meiru" monster from your hand to the Graveyard" part. Can you add more than 1 during the Draw Phase if you're discarding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I meant the "and/or send 1 "Koa'ki Meiru" monster from your hand to the Graveyard" part. Can you add more than 1 during the Draw Phase if you're discarding? Yes. You can skip your Normal Draw for one and discard a Koa'ki for a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragovian Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 If there is a monster with 0 ATK points which has some Venom counters on it while Venom Swamp is on the field (I know this is possible) what happens if it gains ATK points less then the total amount that would be lost by Venom swamp? Would it be destroyed because it would theoretically have ATK that was lost, or would it not be destroyed because the ATK never existed because Venom swamp is a continuous effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 If there is a monster with 0 ATK points which has some Venom counters on it while Venom Swamp is on the field (I know this is possible) what happens if it gains ATK points less then the total amount that would be lost by Venom swamp? Would it be destroyed because it would theoretically have ATK that was lost, or would it not be destroyed because the ATK never existed because Venom swamp is a continuous effect? Venom Swamp only destroys when Venom Swamp reduces the ATK to 0. If the monster's ATK is at 0, and it gains X amount of ATK so that its ATK value of the monster is still 0 or less, then nothing will happen. If the monster gains ATK so that its above 0 ATK, then during a following turn where it gains a Counter and that brings the monster down to 0 ATK, that monster is then destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Okay, so let's say my opponent has a monster on the field and I have ultimate offering activated. I special summon Cyber dragon. Can I then use their 3000 Attacker monster to tribute using soul exchange to summon Great Maju Garzett. Would the original attack of great Maju garzett be considered 6000 attack? If not, would I be able to tribute their monster and my cyber dragon to summon Maju garzett. would the combined attacks be counted as the original attack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Yes and yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Yes and yes.<3 Okay, so further on with my question.Ultimate offering. I tribute my Cyber Dragon and my opponent's 3000 beatstick for Maju Garzett. that would make it 5100. NOW, if I were to pay the 500 to tribute summon Great Maju Garzett to have the 10200 then go on to pay another 500 to tribute summon Great Maju garzett for ANOTHER one to have 20400 then another by paying 500 to have 40,800. Could I activate let's say Linear accleration cannon and burn my opponent with 20,400 burn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 No, because Great Maju Garzett checks original ATK, and it's effect does not change it's original ATK, so if you tribute it for another Great Maju Garzett, the ATK will be 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 No, because Great Maju Garzett checks original ATK, and it's effect does not change it's original ATK, so if you tribute it for another Great Maju Garzett, the ATK will be 0.Okay, so what if I were to do it this way?Tribute both monsters to have the 5100 beatstick. Use ultimate offering to tribute that Maju Garzett to have 10,200 but then use my dark world dealings to discard silvva or goldd. Special Summon Silvva/Goldd then pay 500 to tribute summon Great Mazju Garzett using Silvva/Goldd. Then tribute summon great Maju garzett onto the new one THEN tribute summon Maju Garzett to use cannon on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Okay, so what if I were to do it this way?Tribute both monsters to have the 5100 beatstick. Use ultimate offering to tribute that Maju Garzett to have 10,200 but then use my dark world dealings to discard silvva or goldd. Special Summon Silvva/Goldd then pay 500 to tribute summon Great Mazju Garzett using Silvva/Goldd. Then tribute summon great Maju garzett onto the new one THEN tribute summon Maju Garzett to use cannon on?Both Great Maju Garzett and Maju Garzett's Original ATK remains unchanged by their effects. If you tribute either of them for the other, you will gain 0 ATK from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Both Great Maju Garzett and Maju Garzett's Original ATK remains unchanged by their effects. If you tribute either of them for the other, you will gain 0 ATK from it.Damnit. Thanks. By any chance would I at least be able to use Jigen Bakudan to burn with all that attack power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Damnit. Thanks. By any chance would I at least be able to use Jigen Bakudan to burn with all that attack power?Sure, but Jigen Bakudan is terrible and can only have its burn effect activate during your Standby Phase, meaning you'll have to have it set, flipped, and survive until your Standby Phase. But really just be sure to check between ATK and "Original ATK". Original ATK, unless otherwise stated, is always the printed ATK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Sure, but Jigen Bakudan is terrible and can only have its burn effect activate during your Standby Phase, meaning you'll have to have it set, flipped, and survive until your Standby Phase. But really just be sure to check between ATK and "Original ATK". Original ATK, unless otherwise stated, is always the printed ATK.Would I be able to use Book of taiyou on my draw phase to flip it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Would I be able to use Book of taiyou on my draw phase to flip it?Book of Taiyou is a Normal Spell, you cannot chain it to anything. Question: Totem Dragon (monsters that count as 2 tributes) DO count towards Precious Cards from Beyond, correct? Just want to make myself clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MibeR Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 If phantom of chaos banish sangan, do we get the search eff if phantom of chaos is sent to grave that turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 If phantom of chaos banish sangan, do we get the search eff if phantom of chaos is sent to grave that turn?I don't believe so, since Sangan activates in the Graveyard, and once Phantom of Chaos hits the Graveyard, it is no longer Sangan and loses its effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Book of Taiyou is a Normal Spell, you cannot chain it to anything. Question: Totem Dragon (monsters that count as 2 tributes) DO count towards Precious Cards from Beyond, correct? Just want to make myself clear. Nope. You have to physically tribute 2 monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Nope. You have to physically tribute 2 monsters.But the wording is that you tribute summon a monster that needs two tributes, not that you tribute 2 monsters. Therefore, since Totem dragon counts as 2, it should still work. Still, no one actually knows this so I'll probably need to test it in WC10 first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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