evilfusion Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Glads must enter and survive Damage Calculation to tag out, but they don't actually tag until a player declares the end of the Battle Phase. And no, Warning can't touch Ultimate Offering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Let's say I control Precious Cards from the Sky and Kaiser Sea Horse. I proceed to Tribute Summon The Creator using Kaiser as 2 Tributes. Do I get the draw from Precious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Let's say I control Precious Cards from the Sky and Kaiser Sea Horse. I proceed to Tribute Summon The Creator using Kaiser as 2 Tributes. Do I get the draw from Precious? The card never states it has to tribute 2 monsters, only that the monster requires two tributes. So yes, you do still draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 The card never states it has to tribute 2 monsters, only that the monster requires two tributes. So yes, you do still draw. Except the monster did not require 2 Tributes. It required only 1 when used with Kaiser Sea Horse. You do not draw in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Question on older cards that deal with "Equip Spell Cards" like Guardian Ceal: Can they use any equipped card for their effect, or just Equip[ped] spells? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Except the monster did not require 2 Tributes. It required only 1 when used with Kaiser Sea Horse. You do not draw in this situation. Are you sure? Because Kaiser Sea Horse says "You can treat this 1 monster as 2 Tributes". Also, if you Forbidden Lance a monster while Skill Drain is on the field, does it get its effect back for the rest of that turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Question on older cards that deal with "Equip Spell Cards" like Guardian Ceal: Can they use any equipped card for their effect, or just Equip[ped] spells? I'm not entirely positive, but Ceal should only be allowed to use Equip Spells, because it specifically designates Equip Spells. Traps that become equip cards cannot be used, and neither can monsters that equipped. Are you sure? Because Kaiser Sea Horse says "You can treat this 1 monster as 2 Tributes". Also, if you Forbidden Lance a monster while Skill Drain is on the field, does it get its effect back for the rest of that turn? I see no reason why you would NOT draw for Precious. You did use 2 Tributes, it was just in the form of 1 monster. I did not find a ruling that either confirms or contradicts this, though. And yes, you would get your effect(s) back for the turn, as the effect of Skill Drain is negating the Monster Effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Hm...I see. That makes me a little sad. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Is a monster affected by Skill Drain if it flips itself face-down as a cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Are you sure? Because Kaiser Sea Horse says "You can treat this 1 monster as 2 Tributes". Yes, I am sure. You need 2 tributes. Using Double Tribute monsters like Kaiser Sea Horse only counts as the monster requiring 1 Tribute for the sake of Precious Cards from Beyond. You cannot reference Kaiser Sea Horse's effect as it has nothing to do with what Precious Cards from Beyond is asking. Precious Cards from Beyond simply asks for how many Tributes the monster summoned required. The Tribute Summon DID NOT REQUIRE 2 Tributes because you used something like Kaiser Sea Horse that allowed it to make it 1 Tribute. It does not matter how many Tributes that one Tribute was "worth". "When you successfully Tribute Summon or Set... a monster that required 2 or more Tributes..." That Light and Darkness Dragon that you Tribute Summoned using Kaiser Sea Horse; Was it summoned using 2 Tributes? Or was it summoned with only 1 Tribute with a monster who was being treated as 2? Precious Cards from Beyond will only see it as said Tribute Summon requiring only 1 Tribute. You will not draw 2 cards this way. Is a monster affected by Skill Drain if it flips itself face-down as a cost? Which monster flips itself face-down as a cost? In any case, if for any reason a monster had been removed from the field or was flipped face-down before its Chain Link can resolve, it will not be negated by Skill Drain. Your monster's effect would not be negated. Question on older cards that deal with "Equip Spell Cards" like Guardian Ceal: Can they use any equipped card for their effect, or just Equip[ped] spells? While I can't Speak for Guardian Ceal, I do know that "Tailor of the Fickle", which also states "Equip Spell Cards", can be used on any Equip Card whose effect targets a monster on the field to be equipped at activation. You can use it on Traps that have become Equip Cards (such as Horn of the Phantom Beast and Kunai with Chain), as well as Monsters whose effects allow them to become Equip Cards (such as Brain Jacker and Dark Necrofear). I suppose it doesn't help to say it since that doesn't answer whether Guardian Ceal can use it, but I suppose its possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 If I control Jetroid, and my opp attacks, can I use both Supercharge and Mirror Force to the attack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 If I control Jetroid, and my opp attacks, can I use both Supercharge and Mirror Force to the attack? You can activate both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 If I control Jetroid, and my opp attacks, can I use both Supercharge and Mirror Force to the attack? Yes. Jetroid may activate multiple Traps in the same chain, so long as the timing is appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Can you chain Torrential to Bottomless in the same way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Can you chain Torrential to Bottomless in the same way? Yeah, because it's the same activation timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomflyingobjects Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 If I have an Xyz monster on the field with 3 overlay units, and my opponent plays Just Desserts, do I take the additional points of damage for my overlay units? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 If I have an Xyz monster on the field with 3 overlay units, and my opponent plays Just Desserts, do I take the additional points of damage for my overlay units?Nope. Xyz Materials do not count as being on the field and are therefore unaffected by all effects that revolve around monsters on the field. Similarly, Sangan does not search since it isn't sent from the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Xyz Material are not considered to be on the Field, nor are they monsters. Secret Barrel will not inflict Damage for them and Just Desserts would not consider them monsters, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderVolt Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 While Dimmensional Fissure is on the field and a player's Xyz Monster detatches a Material, does it bypass D-Fissure? And would it also bypass Macro Cosmos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 While Dimmensional Fissure is on the field and a player's Xyz Monster detatches a Material, does it bypass D-Fissure? And would it also bypass Macro Cosmos? Yes and no, respectively. Xyz Materials are not monsters. They will go to the Graveyard when detached. But they are still cards and will be banished if Macro/Banisher are on the Field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderVolt Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Yes and no, respectively. Xyz Materials are not monsters. They will go to the Graveyard when detached. But they are still cards and will be banished if Macro/Banisher are on the Field. Crap right, not monsters im not sure why i forgot that.... Thanks a ton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarcastiXDevil Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Doppelwarrior is used as Synchro Material for Black Rose Dragon. Black Rose decides to nuke. Which one happens first, the nuking (therefore the just-summoned tokens avoid destruction) or the tokens summoning (which makes the tokens also get destroyed)? Or would Doppelwarrior 'miss the timing', a concept I'm still vague about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Doppelwarrior is used as Synchro Material for Black Rose Dragon. Black Rose decides to nuke. Which one happens first, the nuking (therefore the just-summoned tokens avoid destruction) or the tokens summoning (which makes the tokens also get destroyed)? Or would Doppelwarrior 'miss the timing', a concept I'm still vague about? Doppelwarrior is mandatory, so it becomes chain link 1, to which Black Rose's optional trigger effect on summon will then chain to. The field is nuked, and then the tokens are summoned. Missing the timing is to do with the wording on cards, essentially saying the combinations of: "If + Mandatory""If + You can""When + Mandatory" Will never miss timing. Only "When + You can" can miss the timing. To have the correct timing, its activation timing or trigger must be the last thing to occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Except Doppelwarrior is also optional. You can choose what order to place them on the chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Does Madolce Puddingcess cause a replay if you use its effect to destroy the monster you're attacking? Didn't read the thread btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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