evilfusion Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 If Quasar negates Battle Fader, can you use another Fader on the same attack? No. Battle Fader is a Trigger Effect and so Spell Speed 1. Quasar is a Quick Effect and Spell Speed 2. To say nothing of the fact you cannot chain 2 Trigger Effects (that Special Summon) from the hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom Xathers Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 ... here's something I've always wondered for quite some time: Example: "Celtic Guardian" is equipped with "Sword of Dragon's Soul", which can only be equipped to Warrior-Types. Later on it is equipped with "Dragonic Attack", which would change "Celtic Guardian's" Type to Dragon. Does the equipped "Sword of Dragon's Soul" get destroyed when "Celtic Guardian's" Type is changed, or does it stay equipped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 ... here's something I've always wondered for quite some time: Example: "Celtic Guardian" is equipped with "Sword of Dragon's Soul", which can only be equipped to Warrior-Types. Later on it is equipped with "Dragonic Attack", which would change "Celtic Guardian's" Type to Dragon. Does the equipped "Sword of Dragon's Soul" get destroyed when "Celtic Guardian's" Type is changed, or does it stay equipped? When a card states "This card can only be equipped to an X monster". then if X changes, the equipped card will be destroyed. When a card states "Equip only to an X monster", then if X changes, the equipped card will NOT be destroyed. Therefore, if "Dragonic Attack" changes the equipped monster's Type to Dragon, then "Sword of Dragon's Soul" will be destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Tour Guide from the Underworld; Naturia Cosmobeet would miss timing, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Tour Guide from the Underworld; Naturia Cosmobeet would miss timing, right? Um... no, since both effects trigger at the same time. I'll be a chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MibeR Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 This basic Q which i didnt know, lol. Did Summon effect that monster has is a targeting eff? To make it easy what i point out,: Holy Mark Nut and Shu? Did Nut can Do the SS thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 This basic Q which i didnt know, lol.Did Summon effect that monster has is a targeting eff? To make it easy what i point out,: Holy Mark Nut and Shu? Did Nut can Do the SS thing? Take note that if a Trigger Effect activates, you cannot declare priority on an Ignition Effect, because Priority only lets you take Chain Link 1, but Chain Link 1 is already "owned" by another Effect. You can still use a Trigger Effect of the monster you just Summoned. So if you use Tengu for Brionac's Synchro Summon, ordinarily, you could use priority and ditch a card to bounce something. However, Tengu activates as Chain Link 1, and Brionac is not a Trigger Effect and cannot chain to Tengu. So it has to wait until the chain resolves, putting you in danger of Bottomless Trap Hole. Okay, now I'm studying your question more carefully. Your early wording confused me, hence the above explanation. Nut is like Spirit Reaper. It has to be faceup on the Field when it was targeted, and it must still be faceup on the Field when the effect targeting it has resolved. Then it will activate. Shu's effect does not target either the Hieroglyph you Tribute, nor the Hieroglyph you Special Summon if you Tribute Shu. And if Shu does target from the Grave, Nut wasn't faceup when it was targeted and so will not activate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 This is actually for a CC, but if a card is used as Xyz material, by ruling has it left the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 This is actually for a CC, but if a card is used as Xyz material, by ruling has it left the field? By ruling, yes. An Xyz Material is not considered on the field. Reason why Sangan/Goblin Zombie don't work when detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 By ruling, yes. An Xyz Material is not considered on the field. Reason why Sangan/Goblin Zombie don't work when detached.Yes, but when it's put under, does it leave? Technically speaking Tengu would work if it did, so my first thought was that it wouldn't. So basically, even though the action of it leaving is there, does it technically leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 By ruling, yes. An Xyz Material is not considered on the field. Reason why Sangan/Goblin Zombie don't work when detached. Following this ruling, why doesn't Tengu get his effect when Overlaid? An overlay isn't treated as being on the field, but it isn't treated as leaving the field? Or is it because Xyz Materials just can't have effects unless stated on the card as such? I figured it was the second reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Tengu doesn't work because it is now a material and not a monster so it no longer has an effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Xyz Materials cannot activate effects because that's not a proper region. Think of it like if Tengu returned to the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 If you use Musakani Magatama on Shi En, can it use its second effect to destroy another Six Samurai monster and survive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 If you use Musakani Magatama on Shi En, can it use its second effect to destroy another Six Samurai monster and survive? Yes. Six Samurai destruction replacement is a Continuous Effect, and does not start a chain. It occurs at the time the Sam would be destroyed, the same as Gachi and Zenmaines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Xyz Materials cannot activate effects because that's not a proper region. Think of it like if Tengu returned to the deck.Here's the thing I'm asking about. If there's a card effect that says 'cards cannot leave the field' can you Xyz Summon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Here's the thing I'm asking about. If there's a card effect that says 'cards cannot leave the field' can you Xyz Summon? Leaving the field is too broad a term to create a card effect that prevents it. That would prevent monsters from being destroyed (battle or effect), Tributed, banished, returned to hand, returned to Deck, or sent to Graveyard. It would also play hell on cards being activated. The basis is that yes, Xyz Material monsters leave the Field. They are no longer on the Field and if the Xyz Summon is negated, they go to the Graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Can effects like Shi En be activated during the damage step, i.e. to negate Forbidden Lance? Edit: And do Xyz Materials go to the Graveyard while Macro Cosmos is on the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Tiras vs. Necro Gardna GOGOGO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Tiras vs. Necro Gardna GOGOGO ? What is your doubt? Tiras and Necro Gardna have no conflicts off the top of my head... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 ? What is your doubt? Tiras and Necro Gardna have no conflicts off the top of my head... Tiras attacks a monster. It's negated by Necro Gardna. Does Tiras still gain its effect at the end of the Battle Phase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Can effects like Shi En be activated during the damage step, i.e. to negate Forbidden Lance? Edit: And do Xyz Materials go to the Graveyard while Macro Cosmos is on the field? Shi En is a Quick Effect that negates card activations. It may be used during Damage Step. No. Xyz Material are still "cards". They will be banished if Macro or Banisher is out. They only go to the Graveyard if D-Fissure is involved. Tiras vs. Necro Gardna GOGOGO Tiras having its attack negated will not trigger its effect, the same as Gladiator Beasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Macro Cosmos/Dimensional rift on the field, does Psychic Feel Zone still work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Macro Cosmos/Dimensional rift on the field, does Psychic Feel Zone still work? Yes. "Returning" to the Graveyard is not "sending to the Graveyard". It will bypass RFG effects like Macro, etc. Same as Burial from a Different Dimension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 I guessed so, but still wanted to make sure. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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