JadenxAtemYAOI Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Okay, I have forced requisition on the field. Morphing Jar set, and 3 Dark World Dealings on my field. If I were to flip Jar would my opponent lose 5 cards then the 5 drew or would it remain 5 cards? If I activate Dark World Dealings and it makes me discard, does my opponent lose 2 cards immediately or discard draw then discard again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Okay, I have forced requisition on the field. Morphing Jar set, and 3 Dark World Dealings on my field. If I were to flip Jar would my opponent lose 5 cards then the 5 drew or would it remain 5 cards? If I activate Dark World Dealings and it makes me discard, does my opponent lose 2 cards immediately or discard draw then discard again? Forced Requisition would apply after the current effect has finished resolving, otherwise it's interrupting a card's resolution (which can't be done). So with Jar, both players discard their hands, and then draw 5. Forced Requisition would then force the opponent to discard the same number of cards you discarded. Dealings actually draws, then discards. But what would happen is both players draw and discard 1. Then, Forced Requisition will force the opponent to discard another card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Does returning Wind-Up Rabbit to the field via its own effect constitute as a Special Summon? Meaning, will Maxx "C" allow for a draw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Does returning Wind-Up Rabbit to the field via its own effect constitute as a Special Summon? Meaning, will Maxx "C" allow for a draw? No, because it doesn't say it Special Summons. It just returns, so no draw from Maxx "C". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Let's say I control Hyper Librarian, with no cards in hand, and I synchro for Fabled Ragin. Would I draw 3 cards (2 with Ragin, 1 from Librarian) or merely 2 (one from Librarian, 1 from Ragin because it checks for hand size at resolution) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Let's say I control Hyper Librarian, with no cards in hand, and I synchro for Fabled Ragin. Would I draw 3 cards (2 with Ragin, 1 from Librarian) or merely 2 (one from Librarian, 1 from Ragin because it checks for hand size at resolution) You would draw 3 cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Let's say I control Hyper Librarian, with no cards in hand, and I synchro for Fabled Ragin. Would I draw 3 cards (2 with Ragin, 1 from Librarian) or merely 2 (one from Librarian, 1 from Ragin because it checks for hand size at resolution) This seems to get asked a lot. Librarian is mandatory, Ragin is optional. They have the same timing (Ragin being Synchro Summoned), so the SEGOC rules take effect. Mandatory effect is Chain Link 1. Optional Effect is Chain Link 2. Chains resolve backwards, so first Ragin will draw until you have 2. Then you'll draw 1 for Librarian. You'll have 3 in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Can you use Ultimate Offering in conjunction with Mausoleum of the Emperor. IE: Can you Normal Summon, then use Ultimate Offering and Mausoleum to summon Ancient Gear Golemn w/o tributing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 No. Mausoleum has an Ignition-like effect (that is, you activate its effect as if it were a Spell Speed 1 Effect), and so it cannot be used during Ultimate Offering's resolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 No. Mausoleum has an Ignition-like effect (that is, you activate its effect as if it were a Spell Speed 1 Effect), and so it cannot be used during Ultimate Offering's resolution. ...that's bogus. Damn you, Konami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 If I use Psychic Feel Zone on a monster banished by Serene Psychic Witch, will I still get the special summon?Is there any difference with Hushed Psychic Cleric? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 If I use Psychic Feel Zone on a monster banished by Serene Psychic Witch, will I still get the special summon?Is there any difference with Hushed Psychic Cleric? No, and no. If the monster is no longer in the banished zone, it will not be Summoned, even if it is later returned to the banished zone. This is more or less the same as Gold Sarcophagus. My question, preferably to darkwolf, because this drives me absolute NUTS. Pot of Duality vs Special Summoning If a player negates a Special Summon, such as Cyber Dragon or a Synchro Summon, using any form of Summon negation (Judgment, Rai-oh, Warning), can you use Pot of Duality? If a player negates an effect that attempts to Special Summon, such as Tour Guide, using something that negates the activation (Warning, Herald of Orange Light), can you use Duality? If a player negates an effect that attempts to Special Summon by using other forms of negation or otherwise preventing proper resolution, but not negating the activation (MST on Call of the Haunted, Effect Veiler on Tour Guide, etc), can you use Pot of Duality. On a similar note: If a player negates the Normal or Special Summon of a non-LIGHT monster using Warning, Judgment, etc, can you still use Photon Sanctuary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 If a player negates a Special Summon, such as Cyber Dragon or a Synchro Summon, using any form of Summon negation (Judgment, Rai-oh, Warning), can you use Pot of Duality? You cannot use Pot of Duality in this scenario as a Special Summon was attempted. If a player negates an effect that attempts to Special Summon, such as Tour Guide, using something that negates the activation (Warning, Herald of Orange Light), can you use Duality? You can use Pot of Duality in this scenario as you only attempted to activate the effect of a card. The effect is what attempts the Special Summon. If there is no effect, then there was no attempt. If a player negates an effect that attempts to Special Summon by using other forms of negation or otherwise preventing proper resolution, but not negating the activation (MST on Call of the Haunted, Effect Veiler on Tour Guide, etc), can you use Pot of Duality. You can use Pot of Duality in this scenario for the same reason as negating the activation. There was no attempted Special Summon because the effect which would attempt that summon was negated, so it was never attempted. If a player negates the Normal or Special Summon of a non-LIGHT monster using Warning, Judgment, etc, can you still use Photon Sanctuary? If Photon Sanctuary works the same way as the interactions with Duality, Inherent Normal/Special Summons being negated would mean you cannot, and effect which would Special Summon being negated would allow you to activate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Lol asked 3 DN admins that and only 1 got it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 And I have been misruling it (in terms of inherent Summons being negated). I haven't been able to find a ruling anywhere else, and my logic was sound, but it's good to know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderVolt Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 If i have Hell Kaiser Dragon (Cthonian Emporer) or a Darkstorm Dragon in the graveyard and summon it to the field via the effect of a Hieroglyph monster, then Gemini Summon it. Will its stats return to normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 If i have Hell Kaiser Dragon (Cthonian Emporer) or a Darkstorm Dragon in the graveyard and summon it to the field via the effect of a Hieroglyph monster, then Gemini Summon it. Will its stats return to normal? No. The Gemini monster did not leave the Field, so the effects of the Hieroglyph remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeal Ascendant Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 If I use lightray daedalus to destroy geartown and two other cards, does geartown miss the timing or does it get its SS because daedalus destroys all the cards at the same time? Sorry if this has been answered already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 If I use lightray daedalus to destroy geartown and two other cards, does geartown miss the timing or does it get its SS because daedalus destroys all the cards at the same time? Sorry if this has been answered already. All the cards are destroyed at the same time, and is the last thing in Daedalus' effect to resolve. Geartown can activate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeal Ascendant Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 All the cards are destroyed at the same time, and is the last thing in Daedalus' effect to resolve. Geartown can activate. OH BABY MUST MAKE .DEK NOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Just for personal verification. If Koa'ki Meiru Guardian or Doomcaliber Knight were destroyed by battle and take Battle Damage from a monster that activates when it inflicts Battle Damage, such as Doom Dozer, can they activate? My personal hunch is "No, a monster destroyed by battle cannot be Tributed", which seems to be confirmed by the fact there's no confirmation either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Just for personal verification. If Koa'ki Meiru Guardian or Doomcaliber Knight were destroyed by battle and take Battle Damage from a monster that activates when it inflicts Battle Damage, such as Doom Dozer, can they activate? My personal hunch is "No, a monster destroyed by battle cannot be Tributed", which seems to be confirmed by the fact there's no confirmation either way. I'm quite sure it's like with FLIP effect monsters, like how Ryko can't destroy itself if attacked, Penguin Soldier can't be bounced, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Just for personal verification. If Koa'ki Meiru Guardian or Doomcaliber Knight were destroyed by battle and take Battle Damage from a monster that activates when it inflicts Battle Damage, such as Doom Dozer, can they activate? My personal hunch is "No, a monster destroyed by battle cannot be Tributed", which seems to be confirmed by the fact there's no confirmation either way. For Koa'ki Meiru Guardian, you cannot activate its effect if its been destroyed by battle. For Doomcaliber Knight, you can because you must. It will Tribute itself even if already destroyed by the battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 So...Doomcaliber would Tribute itself and negate the effect because it absolutely has to, but Guardian cannot because it's optional and is otherwise not allowed to Tribute itself when destroyed by battle? Seriously? That's weird. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 For Doomcaliber Knight, you can because you must. It will Tribute itself even if already destroyed by the battle. Doomcaliber Knight is so smexy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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