Synchronized Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 If I play Instant Fusion on Giltia the D. Knight, tune with Airbellum, then next turn try to Monster Reborn it, can I? I'm asking because Instant Fusion says "This Special Summon is treated as a Fusion Summon." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 If I play Instant Fusion on Giltia the D. Knight, tune with Airbellum, then next turn try to Monster Reborn it, can I? I'm asking because Instant Fusion says "This Special Summon is treated as a Fusion Summon." Yes. It was considered properly Fusion Summoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 If I play Instant Fusion on Giltia the D. Knight, tune with Airbellum, then next turn try to Monster Reborn it, can I? I'm asking because Instant Fusion says "This Special Summon is treated as a Fusion Summon." yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 If I'm using Fableds and my opponent plays D. Fissure or Macro, since monsters would be banished do I not get their effects since they say "discarded to the Graveyard"? Or would they be discarded to the graveyard, then banished, and still get the effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 If I'm using Fableds and my opponent plays D. Fissure or Macro, since monsters would be banished do I not get their effects since they say "discarded to the Graveyard"? Or would they be discarded to the graveyard, then banished, and still get the effect? Monsters are removed from play INSTEAD. You will not get the effects of any removed fableds that were discarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Does "Hero Blast's" 2nd Effect Target, as well as the first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Does "Hero Blast's" 2nd Effect Target, as well as the first? No. The second part occurs at resolution of the card effect, and so the destroyed monster, if any, is chosen at resolution after the targeted monster in the Graveyard is added to the hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 No. The second part occurs at resolution of the card effect, and so the destroyed monster, if any, is chosen at resolution after the targeted monster in the Graveyard is added to the hand. Gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 i think i already know the answer, but i just want to confirm my assumptions if you control a Malefic Stardust Dragon whilst Skill Drain is out, does that make the field spell vulnerable again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 i think i already know the answer, but i just want to confirm my assumptions if you control a Malefic Stardust Dragon whilst Skill Drain is out, does that make the field spell vulnerable again? Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 i think i already know the answer, but i just want to confirm my assumptions if you control a Malefic Stardust Dragon whilst Skill Drain is out, does that make the field spell vulnerable again? Of course. The Field Spell protection is an effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Of course. The Field Spell protection is an effect.yea i thought so ...and i also assume that if an Xyz monster had BoM used on it, it'd lose the materials when flipped back face-up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 yea i thought so ...and i also assume that if an Xyz monster had BoM used on it, it'd lose the materials when flipped back face-up No. An Xyz Monster that is flipped facedown does NOT lose the Materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 yea i thought so ...and i also assume that if an Xyz monster had BoM used on it, it'd lose the materials when flipped back face-up No, it will not lose it's materials. However, continuous effects that were applied are reset (like Leviathan Dragon's ATK increase). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joex486 Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Can I use the effect of Pain Painter in order to make Xyz monsters become level 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Can I use the effect of Pain Painter in order to make Xyz monsters become level 2? No, Xyz don't have Levels. They have Ranks. They are immune to all cards that affect or modify Levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 No. Xyz Monsters are never affected by effects involving levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joex486 Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 This applies even though painter's effect doesn't mention an initial level for the monsters it effects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 This applies even though painter's effect doesn't mention an initial level for the monsters it effects? Yes. Xyz don't have Levels. Their Level cannot be modified because they dont have one. They aren't Level 0, they're a different system entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 If my opponent were to activate Dark Hole if the only monsters I control are Trap Monsters, can I use Fake Trap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 If my opponent were to activate Dark Hole if the only monsters I control are Trap Monsters, can I use Fake Trap? The ruling on this is as follows: If an effect that destroys Trap Cards is used against “Embodiment of Apophis”, you can use “Fake Trap” to prevent it from being destroyed. When preventing the destruction of “Embodiment of Apophis”, you must be using a card of the appropriate type. You cannot use “My Body as a Shield” to rescue it from “Heavy Storm”. You cannot use “Fake Trap” to rescue it from “Raigeki”. You can use “Riryoku Field” when “Embodiment of Apophis” is targeted by “Snatch Steal”, but not when it’s targeted by “Mystical Space Typhoon”. You can use any of these effects to protect “Embodiment of Apophis” from “Raigeki Break” because “Raigeki Break” can destroy a Monster card or a Trap Card. So no, you cannot. Because Dark Hole specifically destroys monsters, not Traps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 If an effect that destroys Trap Cards is used against “Embodiment of Apophis”, you can use “Fake Trap” to prevent it from being destroyed. When preventing the destruction of “Embodiment of Apophis”, you must be using a card of the appropriate type. You cannot use “My Body as a Shield” to rescue it from “Heavy Storm”. You cannot use “Fake Trap” to rescue it from “Raigeki”. You can use “Riryoku Field” when “Embodiment of Apophis” is targeted by “Snatch Steal”, but not when it’s targeted by “Mystical Space Typhoon”. You can use any of these effects to protect “Embodiment of Apophis” from “Raigeki Break” because “Raigeki Break” can destroy a Monster card or a Trap Card. So no, you cannot. Because Dark Hole specifically destroys monsters, not Traps. Must be some TCG ruling then, as otherwise, you can use Fake Trap to protect your Trap Monsters from Dark Hole, or any other effect that would destroy "monsters" provided those monsters are the Trap Monsters. Understand that Trap Monsters are still considered Traps as well as Monsters, so an effect that would destroy a Trap Monster would also be destroying a Trap. Fake Trap can be used in those situations. Some parts of that are correct, but the important part is that the Trap Monsters are still considered Traps (due to the "This card is still treated as a Trap Card"), but not the other way around in that "The Traps are considered Monsters". You can use Fake Trap to protect from cards like Dark Hole and Raigeki, but you cannot use My Body against MST where the Traps themselves are not considered Monsters. Fake Trap protects other Traps. Trap Monsters are still Traps. Trap monsters will be protected by Fake Trap if destroyed by an effect which would destroy a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Must be some TCG ruling then, as otherwise, you can use Fake Trap to protect your Trap Monsters from Dark Hole, or any other effect that would destroy "monsters" provided those monsters are the Trap Monsters. Understand that Trap Monsters are still considered Traps as well as Monsters, so an effect that would destroy a Trap Monster would also be destroying a Trap. Fake Trap can be used in those situations. According to Wiki, it was a ruling applied by Upperdeck and may not be official. But very rarely have I seen a ruling labeled as such that no longer applies. And the OCG rulings dont mention it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 If I was to ask for subjective card prices, would it be here or in the trading topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 If I was to ask for subjective card prices, would it be here or in the trading topic? Most likely the Trading Topic. This is more for Rulings and Gameplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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