evilfusion Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Frog Monarchs used that a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowferret Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 I got this ruled against me in a tournament, and wondering if it's true: Say I activate a card (in this case Infernity Inferno) during the Standby Phase. After it resolves, am I allowed to activate another card, still in the Standby Phase? (this case, it was Infernity Break). I had it ruled against me that "only one chain can exist in the Standby Phase", so activating another card would hafta wait until the Main Phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 I got this ruled against me in a tournament, and wondering if it's true: Say I activate a card (in this case Infernity Inferno) during the Standby Phase. After it resolves, am I allowed to activate another card, still in the Standby Phase? (this case, it was Infernity Break). I had it ruled against me that "only one chain can exist in the Standby Phase", so activating another card would hafta wait until the Main Phase.They were idiots. It's a phase that lasts as long as you can use it. Same as End Phase where Stardust revives over and over. Treeborn'll revive over and over in the Standby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 If I use Gold Sarc, and one turn later a Rai-oh is played, does Gold Sarc fizzle away? If I gold sarc a rabbit, and get it with Leviar, and then banish it, will I still get it 2 turns later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecha Love Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 If you summon Photon Tiger, can you opponent banish it with BTH?By the way, this is if you don't control another photon tiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 If I use Gold Sarc, and one turn later a Rai-oh is played, does Gold Sarc fizzle away? If I gold sarc a rabbit, and get it with Leviar, and then banish it, will I still get it 2 turns later?I don't think so No @TED: unless you have Skill Drain or sonething out, no, as BTH is at the resolution of the summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 If I use Gold Sarc, and one turn later a Rai-oh is played, does Gold Sarc fizzle away? If I gold sarc a rabbit, and get it with Leviar, and then banish it, will I still get it 2 turns later?No. Rai-Oh specifically stops searches from the Deck only, meaning Gold Sarc and DD Capsule are completely unaffected. No. The card banished by Gold Sarc must stay banished for the full two turns for it to go to the hand. If it gets pulled out by another card (ie: Leviair or Burial from the Different Dimension) then Gold Sarc's effect will fizzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 If you summon Photon Tiger, can you opponent banish it with BTH?By the way, this is if you don't control another photon tiger No. It is a Continuous Effect that reduces its ATK. It is applied immediately, without starting a chain. I got this ruled against me in a tournament, and wondering if it's true: Say I activate a card (in this case Infernity Inferno) during the Standby Phase. After it resolves, am I allowed to activate another card, still in the Standby Phase? (this case, it was Infernity Break). I had it ruled against me that "only one chain can exist in the Standby Phase", so activating another card would hafta wait until the Main Phase. They got that confused with the "1 chain per Damage Calculation" rule, or the "1 chain per attack declaration". Similarly, play only proceeds to the Damage Step when both players choose to not use any more cards during the Battle Step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 I use Skull Lair to destroy my Fortune Lady Light. Can I both trigger her effect and drop a Meklord from hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 I use Skull Lair to destroy my Fortune Lady Light. Can I both trigger her effect and drop a Meklord from hand? Yes. Both have the same timing (Light being destroyed by effect/sent to Graveyard). They can chain together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Yes. Both have the same timing (Light being destroyed by effect/sent to Graveyard). They can chain together.Great :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 The field has Gig-anto Brilli-ant (used it's effect once), Leviathan Dragon (used it's effect once), Shining Flare Wingman (with 1 E-Hero in the graveyard), Endless Decay (that was Normal or Special Summoned) and 1 Frequency Magician (that used it's effect this turn targeting itself). If Skill Drain is activated after they all have already resolved, what ATK boosts are still applied? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 The field has Gig-anto Brilli-ant (used it's effect once), Leviathan Dragon (used it's effect once), Shining Flare Wingman (with 1 E-Hero in the graveyard), Endless Decay (that was Normal or Special Summoned) and 1 Frequency Magician (that used it's effect this turn targeting itself). If Skill Drain is activated after they all have already resolved, what ATK boosts are still applied? EDIT: My mistake. Needed to re-read the effects. Number 20 and Frequency Magician's effects will remain active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I've been deceived... Will Effect Veiler stop Sangan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I've been deceived... Will Effect Veiler stop Sangan? No. Veiler only negates Effects that ACTIVATE or apply on the field. Sangan activates in the Graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 No. Veiler only negates Effects that ACTIVATE or apply on the field. Sangan activates in the Graveyard. I always had the Exiled Force ruling brought against me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I always had the Exiled Force ruling brought against me.... Yeah, not the case. Skill Drain. Fiendish Chain, and D-HERO Plasma are more the exceptions, not the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 A. I have a question regarding the destruction of Equip Spell Cards when the equipped monster is Tributed or used as Synchro/Xyz Material: when the above occurs, what happens?:1. The equipped monster is removed from the field-->The Equip Spell is destroyed-->The Tribute/Synchro/Xyz is Summoned; the effect(s) of Equip Spells that activate upon their destruction miss their timing.2. The equipped monster is removed from the field-->The Tribute/Synchro/Xyz is Summoned-->The Equip Spell is destroyed; the effect(s) of Equip Spells that activate upon their destruction can be activated. B. As far as I know, cost of cards are "paid" before any card effect activates. Considering the previous statement:If I discard a "Machina Fortress" and another Machine-Type monster as the cost for its own Special Summon, and my opponent responds to the cost by activating "Macro Cosmos", the discarded cards reach the Graveyard, or are they removed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 A. I have a question regarding the destruction of Equip Spell Cards when the equipped monster is Tributed or used as Synchro/Xyz Material: when the above occurs, what happens?:1. The equipped monster is removed from the field-->The Equip Spell is destroyed-->The Tribute/Synchro/Xyz is Summoned; the effect(s) of Equip Spells that activate upon their destruction miss their timing.2. The equipped monster is removed from the field-->The Tribute/Synchro/Xyz is Summoned-->The Equip Spell is destroyed; the effect(s) of Equip Spells that activate upon their destruction can be activated. B. As far as I know, cost of cards are "paid" before any card effect activates. Considering the previous statement:If I discard a "Machina Fortress" and another Machine-Type monster as the cost for its own Special Summon, and my opponent responds to the cost by activating "Macro Cosmos", the discarded cards reach the Graveyard, or are they removed? A. The first one. Equips are sent to the Graveyard the moment their targets leave the field.B. Machina Fortress doesn't start a chain, but in other cases, the cost is paid before a response opportunity is given, so the cost would be sent to the Graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeal Ascendant Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 I'm a little confused about some things with macro cosmos. How come you can pay the cost of brio's effect when it's on the field, but gravekeeper's servant creates a lockdown? Also, can you use TKRO's effect when macro is on the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 I'm a little confused about some things with macro cosmos. How come you can pay the cost of brio's effect when it's on the field, but gravekeeper's servant creates a lockdown? Also, can you use TKRO's effect when macro is on the field? You CAN'T pay the cost of Brionac when Macro Cosmos is on the field because "Discarding to the Graveyard" is the cost and it cannot be performed. If D. Fissure is on the field, then you can activate it, but only by discarding Spell/Trap cards as the cost. No, you cannot activate Thunder King Rai-Oh's negation effect with Macro Cosmos on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 Veiler on Dark Gaia. Does it work like Quasar, or...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 Is there a difference between the normal "before damage calculation" and Catastor's "without applying damage calculation"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 Veiler on Dark Gaia. Does it work like Quasar, or...? No. Dark Gaia's ATK will become 0 and remain 0 even when Veiler wears off. The reason for this is that Dark Gaia's ATK is not being continuously applied. It is set once, when the monster is Summoned. Is there a difference between the normal "before damage calculation" and Catastor's "without applying damage calculation"? For the most part, the difference is timing of activation. Before Damage Calculation (examples: Ehren, Lightsworn Monk or Blast Sphere) is after a monster has been flipped, but before you'd compare ATK/DEF values. At the start of the Damage Step (Catastor, Grand Mole) is before a monster has flipped. For the most part, cards that state "Without applying Damage Calculation" may specify a condition (Face-up, facedown, etc). If they don't, they are USUALLY applied before a monster is flipped, and so a number of them with conditions pertaining to values (ATK, Attribute, Level, etc) can't be activated against a facedown monster or if they themselves are facedown (Catastor, Disigma, Exploder Dragonwing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeal Ascendant Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 You CAN'T pay the cost of Brionac when Macro Cosmos is on the field because "Discarding to the Graveyard" is the cost and it cannot be performed. If D. Fissure is on the field, then you can activate it, but only by discarding Spell/Trap cards as the cost. No, you cannot activate Thunder King Rai-Oh's negation effect with Macro Cosmos on the field. WHAT?!?! I'll never trust the public chat on DN again... knew I was right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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