Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 That's rather convoluted, heh. Chains resolve backwards. Chain Link 1: Heavy StormChain Link 2: Starlight RoadChain Link 3: Royal OppressionChain Link 4: MST resolving backwards Chain Link 4: MST destroys Royal Oppression.Chain Link 3: Oppression is a Continuous Trap. As it has been destroyed, its effect does not resolve. Nothing happens.Chain Link 2: Starlight Road resolves, negating Heavy Storm and Summoning Stardust DragonChain Link 1: Heavy Storm's activation is negated and it is destroyed.tl;dr: U git Starfag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 I dunno, I always preferred it explained step-by-step or otherwise clarified, because such a situation would be easy to figure out if you understand chain rulings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Hypothetical question: Let's say a monster that doubles it's own original ATK (through an effect) is equipped with Megamorph (and the controller's Life Points are lower than the opponent's). What would the ATK of the equipped monster become? (With the aforementioned hypothetical effect activated). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Hypothetical question: Let's say a monster that doubles it's own original ATK (through an effect) is equipped with Megamorph (and the controller's Life Points are lower than the opponent's). What would the ATK of the equipped monster become? (With the aforementioned hypothetical effect activated).Depends on the wording. If the monsters text says "This monster's original attack becomes double it's original attack", then it would double again. I really don't think there's any other way to say it that would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 No, it'll recalculate to double its original ATK, not quadruple. A similar thing applies to Copycat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Hypothetical question: Let's say a monster that doubles it's own original ATK (through an effect) is equipped with Megamorph (and the controller's Life Points are lower than the opponent's). What would the ATK of the equipped monster become? (With the aforementioned hypothetical effect activated). Wording is extremely important. Effects that simply say "double the original ATK" do not stack. But if it would say "the original ATK becomes..." then the original ATK is changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 So, the wiki has the old rulings for it (the UDE ones), but to be sure: If I chain Fake Trap to Heavy Storm, are any Traps other than Fake Trap destroyed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 So, the wiki has the old rulings for it (the UDE ones), but to be sure: If I chain Fake Trap to Heavy Storm, are any Traps other than Fake Trap destroyed? No. All your Set S/Ts will be revealed and the Spells among them will be destroyed, as well as Fake Trap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 If Rafflesia Seduction is attacked and destroyed while in face-down defense position and it's effect activates (since it's mandatory), do I get to keep the monster until the End Phase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 If my opponent activates MST on my face-down CoTH, and I chain the same CoTH to Special Dimensional Alchemist, does Alchemist gets it's effect, or will it miss the timing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 If my opponent activates MST on my face-down CoTH, and I chain the same CoTH to Special Dimensional Alchemist, does Alchemist gets it's effect, or will it miss the timing?The way the question is worded now, Call of the haunted would be destroyed before resolving.However, if you mean that MST is chained to an activated Call of the Haunted that has Special Summoned Dimensional Alchemist, Dimensional Alchemists effect would activate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 If Rafflesia Seduction is attacked and destroyed while in face-down defense position and it's effect activates (since it's mandatory), do I get to keep the monster until the End Phase?That's it's flip effect is it not?If my opponent activates MST on my face-down CoTH, and I chain the same CoTH to Special Dimensional Alchemist, does Alchemist gets it's effect, or will it miss the timing?It won't miss timing since it goes as follows. MST is activated, target fd callCall is activated, becoming chain link 2ResolvingCall resolves, Special Summoning Alchemist.MST resolves, destroying Call, thus destroying Alchemist,Last thing to happen was Alchemist being destroyed, so Alchemist gets it's effect. Sage, you need to learn how chain links work a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 Hypothetical card Question; If I wanted to make a card Level 0 when using it for a synchro summon, how would I word it? My current wording is "When this card is used as Synchro Material, you can exclude Its level." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 "If this card is used for a Synchro Summon, you can treat it as a level 0 monster." Since just like with the Maximum of 12 levels, you can always bypass the rules by saying it's a higher level, so the same should apply here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 If I had a insect-type monster and Desert Protector on my side of the field and attacked my opponent's Psychic-type and he activates Telepathic Power, can I chain Desert Protector's effect? What would happen in that case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 "If this card is used for a Synchro Summon, you can treat it as a level 0 monster." Since just like with the Maximum of 12 levels, you can always bypass the rules by saying it's a higher level, so the same should apply hereOk, Thanks :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 is it true that if The Fabled Unicore destroys a Mystic Tomato in battle and we have the same number of cards in our hand that Tomato's effect is negated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 Why wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 i was asking that because a guy on DN SS'd a monster when i destroyed Tomato, i didn't have enough time to explain that Tomato works like Sangan before he quit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 If you have equal cards in your hand, monster effect activations are negated. Tomato's effect activates. Tomato can be negated by Unicore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 If I had a insect-type monster and Desert Protector on my side of the field and attacked my opponent's Psychic-type and he activates Telepathic Power, can I chain Desert Protector's effect? What would happen in that case? Desert Protector doesn't chain to anything. It's a Continuous Effect and it works the same way that Six Samurai do, in that you destroy it instead of the other monster at the moment of destruction. In this example: Insect Knight (1900) attacks a Psychic and opponent flips Telepathic Power. Telepathic Power attempts to destroy Insect Knight, but Desert Protector is destroyed instead. Insect Knight was not destroyed, so the opponent does not gain LP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 Desert Protector doesn't chain to anything. It's a Continuous Effect and it works the same way that Six Samurai do, in that you destroy it instead of the other monster at the moment of destruction. In this example: Insect Knight (1900) attacks a Psychic and opponent flips Telepathic Power. Telepathic Power attempts to destroy Insect Knight, but Desert Protector is destroyed instead. Insect Knight was not destroyed, so the opponent does not gain LP.Okay, that's sort of what I thought would happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 So, with the new Banlist coming, what is the new Best.Dek?Just curious :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 Still to be decided. Anything that runs Chaos is good, tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 So, I'm wondering about dual types, (that's to say, cards that have "this card is also treated as..." in their lore). With monster effects that activate when they're used as a Material for a specific monster, does the effect still activate/do they gain their effect (Monsters that are always dual-types, not just on the field and in the grave). This might be hypothetical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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