evilfusion Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you can only use that individual Tree's counters. Gateway of the Six specifies it can remove Bushido counters from anywhere on the field, so I think because World Tree doesn't specify that it can come from anywhere, it can probably only remove counters on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 I have another DN incident. A person uses an Exodia Deck that specializes in Appropriate. If your opponent activates hand Destruction or a card that lets your opponent draw 2 or more cards, will the Approriate effect make it draw 2? Because Appropriate says when your opponent draws card(s), not when your opponent draws a card . the effect can barge in, so what is correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 I have another DN incident. A person uses an Exodia Deck that specializes in Appropriate. If your opponent activates hand Destruction or a card that lets your opponent draw 2 or more cards, will the Approriate effect make it draw 2? Because Appropriate says when your opponent draws card(s), not when your opponent draws a card . the effect can barge in, so what is correct? Appropriate will allow you to draw 2 cards each time the opponent draws cards. Hand Destruction makes the opponent draw once. Appropriate will only apply once and they will draw 2 cards. Say the opponent of Appropriate used Mystic Piper, and used its effect, drawing 1 card. Then when revealed, they showed a level 1 monster, and drew 1 more card for that. In this case, the opponent drew TWICE, and Appropriate would apply twice, and they would draw 4 cards. Appropriate doesn't miss the timing (while its face-up on the field), but its not going to interrupt another card's resolution. In the Mystic Piper example, they will draw all 4 cards immediately after Mystic Piper resolves, not 2 after the first draw, and another 2 after the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 I have another DN incident. A person uses an Exodia Deck that specializes in Appropriate. If your opponent activates hand Destruction or a card that lets your opponent draw 2 or more cards, will the Approriate effect make it draw 2? Because Appropriate says when your opponent draws card(s), not when your opponent draws a card . the effect can barge in, so what is correct? I have no idea what you're asking. So I'll try to cover all the bases. First, Appropriate must be active before it starts giving draws, and it'll miss the timing for initial activation if drawing is not the last thing to resolve. Once active, it's mandatory. Any time your opponent (from the viewpoint of whomever controls Appropriate) draws cards (singular or plural) outside of the draw phase, the controller of Appropriate will draw 2. Drawing from Appropriate does not start a chain. You will draw immediately after the opponent draws, even mid-chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Just for clarification. TeleDAD Dark Strike FighterLightsworn / ZombieFrog FTK Last Format (Nothing special in it, lol)Plants / Samurai These are all yugioh formats since Synchros were released and they are in the correct order, right? I feel that I am missing one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 If I use Swap Frog to bounce itself, do I have to NS another frog monster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 If I use Swap Frog to bounce itself, do I have to NS another frog monster?No. Swap Frog says that you CAN summon another Frog, but you aren't required to. It's just extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 My opponent on DN said opposite. He said he knows the card inside and out and runs Frog Coelcanth as his main >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Tell him to go play Over the Nexus, and try it there.He's wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Meh I just quit when he though after negating Treeborn with Oppression I couldn't SS Treeborn again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Exactly. He doesn't know his rulings well enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Meh I just quit when he though after negating Treeborn with Oppression I couldn't SS Treeborn again.I love this move to no end >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwing-Master Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this, but if I bounce Tengu with the effect of Genex Ally Birdman, does Tengu summon another? I think it wouldn't because special summoning Birdman is the last thing to happen meaning Tengu would miss timing, but I want to make sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Tengu never misses timing, because it's effect is not optional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwing-Master Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Oh. I thought Tengu was optional. My bad. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 That's what makes Tengu insanely good. It's mandatory, and gets its effect if it's Tributed, destroyed, or Synched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Kohl drew another Yellow Gadget! Unbelievable. He Summoned Yellow to get another Green from his Deck' date=' now holding a hand of 5 Gadgets. He Flipped Ultimate Offering and Siddiqui had no response. Kohl Summoned Green Gadget to search Red, and [b']sent Utopia to attack over the Warwolf. Siddiqui flipped Dimensional Prison to try and banish Utopia, and Kohl detached an Xyz Material to negate his own attack and save Utopia.[/b] In Main Phase 2 he Xyz Summoned a second Utopia. That's not a legal play, right? O.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 That's not a legal play, right? O.o Its not. Utopia is a Trigger Effect, not a Quick Effect. He would've had to negate his own attack before Dimensional Prison was activated. He cannot chain it to Dimensional Prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 1st Q. Duel 1Lets say I used Battle Fader's effect during my opponents Battle Phase, he activated an card effect to negate and destroy it, could I quickly use Compulsory Evacuation device and the Battle Phase ended b/c target was lost and Battle Fader was back in my hand? Or would I have to Summon him again in order to end the Battle Phase thus still getting rid of the card the opponent tried to use to negate its effect? 2nd Q: Duel 2Now, let's say Skill drain is on the field, can I use Battle Fader's Effect still? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 1st Question: No. You can't chain Compulsory if it's summon was negated.2nd: If I'm correct, you can Special Summon Fader, but you won't get the effect of ending the Battle Phase. Not sure on this one, tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 So, let's say its effect was negated for a turn, then could I do it? Example: I summon Battle fader and opponent uses random card to negate its effect, I use compulsory, then would its effect replay, or would I have to summon it again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 So, let's say its effect was negated for a turn, then could I do it? Example: I summon Battle fader and opponent uses random card to negate its effect, I use compulsory, then would its effect replay, or would I have to summon it again? As I said, you cannot use Compulsory in this chain, because Battle Fader never hit the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Battle Fader's effefct is to Summon itself AND end the Battle Phase. Thus, once it's hit the field, the Battle Phase has ended. No questions. If Divine Wrath was used on Fader's effect, it would be destroyed while it was still in the hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 @Konoe: No, you are misunderstanding, battle fader is still on the field b/c its effect was only negated, not destroyed, I changed my question a little bit, so I could still use compulsory now, right? Also, so I believe the Skill Drains effect you are right on, so that helps me out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Miror B. is right, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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