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If Sangan is special summoned with Tour guide to the underworld, can it search if sent to the grave from the field?

 

2) Yes. Tour Guide only negates effects that activate or apply on the field, the same as Debris Dragon or Junk Synchron. When the Summoned Fiend is sent to the Graveyard, its effect will still activate.

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I activate Into the Void. During the end, I discard my hand, including 1 Snow. I search from Snow. Do I discard again?

 

"Into the Void" only resolves once during the End Phase. If you already resolved "Into the Void" by discarding your hand, then you do not discard again for "Into the Void". You already resolved that card.

 

If you activated two "Into the Void" that turn, then you could resolve the first "Into the Void" to discard Snow, activate Snow to add a card, then resolve the second "Into the Void" to discard that.

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Following situation:

 

I control a face-up Tytannial, Princess of Camellias, and an activated Skill Drain.

My opponent controls a Fluff Token (Summoned last turn, after I destroyed Dandylion with Tytannial).

 

My opponent Tributes the Fluff Token for Caius, the Shadow Monarch, activating his effect, targeting Tytannial. He then chains Book of Moon, flipping his own Caius face-down, claiming that now that Caius isn't face-up anymore, his effect wouldn't be negated.

 

1) Is what he did according to the rules?

2) Can I use Tytannials effect on it, Tributing itself and destroying Caius (so I don't get in conflict with Skill Drain)?

If yes:

2a) Before he activates Book of Moon (I should get a chance there)?

or

2b) After he activates Book of Moon?

 

I actually have no clue, but maybe it's also really simple :unsure:

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Following situation:

 

I control a face-up Tytannial, Princess of Camellias, and an activated Skill Drain.

My opponent controls a Fluff Token (Summoned last turn, after I destroyed Dandylion with Tytannial).

 

My opponent Tributes the Fluff Token for Caius, the Shadow Monarch, activating his effect, targeting Tytannial. He then chains Book of Moon, flipping his own Caius face-down, claiming that now that Caius isn't face-up anymore, his effect wouldn't be negated.

 

1) Is what he did according to the rules?

2) Can I use Tytannials effect on it, Tributing itself and destroying Caius (so I don't get in conflict with Skill Drain)?

If yes:

2a) Before he activates Book of Moon (I should get a chance there)?

or

2b) After he activates Book of Moon?

 

I actually have no clue, but maybe it's also really simple :unsure:

 

1) Yes. Skill Drain only negates the effects of faceup monsters when the effect resolves, even if the effect was activated when the monster was faceup, but was removed from the field or flipped down.

 

2) You can, but...

 

2a) You must activate it at this point. Your opponent must verify your intention to chain to Caius' effect/Summon. He cannot activate Book of Moon until you've either passed priority (no response) or responded.

 

2b) It'd be too late. Tytannial must chain directly to the activated targeting effect.

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1) Yes. Skill Drain only negates the effects of faceup monsters when the effect resolves, even if the effect was activated when the monster was faceup, but was removed from the field or flipped down.

 

2) You can, but...

 

2a) You must activate it at this point. Your opponent must verify your intention to chain to Caius' effect/Summon. He cannot activate Book of Moon until you've either passed priority (no response) or responded.

 

2b) It'd be too late. Tytannial must chain directly to the activated targeting effect.

Thanks, another thing learned :lol:

Edit: However, I could also use Tytannials effect after he activated Book of Moon, chaining it to said Book of Moon to negate it's effect (it targets Caius after all) and destroy it, right? It wouldn't make sense because I'd lose Tytannial either way and he could then also attack me, but just so I understand the situation.

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Thanks, another thing learned :lol:

Edit: However, I could also use Tytannials effect after he activated Book of Moon, chaining it to said Book of Moon to negate it's effect (it targets Caius after all) and destroy it, right? It wouldn't make sense because I'd lose Tytannial either way and he could then also attack me, but just so I understand the situation.

 

Yes, you could have.

 

Caius activates as a Mandatory Trigger Effect automatically, as Chain Link #1. He automatically loses priority after his Mandatory Trigger Effect activates, meaning you have a right to activate a card as Chain Link #2. You could have activated Tytannial to negate Caius before he activated Book of Moon.

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Why thank you. The same would also apply for number of cards in hand, banished cards, and number of cards in deck right?

 

Yes, all of these things are public knowledge and cannot be concealed.

 

However, do ask permission before physically touching their cards. It's just an etiquette thing.

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Okay, so I'm wondering, lets say this happened....

 

My opponent activates an monsters effect that negates you from activating spell and traps when they declare an attack.

I use Divine Wrath.

My opponent uses its second effect to negate and destroy it.

I use Machine King - 3000 B.C. and Torrential Tribute...

 

What would happen....

 

I'm not sure if its allowed here, but its a question....

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Okay, so I'm wondering, lets say this happened....

 

My opponent activates an monsters effect that negates you from activating spell and traps when they declare an attack.

I use Divine Wrath.

My opponent uses its second effect to negate and destroy it.

I use Machine King - 3000 B.C. and Torrential Tribute...

 

What would happen....

 

I'm not sure if its allowed here, but its a question....

 

Okay, firstly...I may need a specific example of these effects/cards.

 

A monster with the "Ancient Gear" clause does not "activate" its effect. It's a continuous Effect and does not start a chain, therefore Divine Wrath cannot be used.

 

You said "its second effect" so I'm under the impression there's an effect in play that negates cards. The problem being that Wrath is a Counter Trap and no monster Effect can chain to a Counter Trap (it's Spell Speed 3, which only Counter Traps are)

 

As for the last part, if you activate a Trap Monster and Special Summon it by its effect, you may use Torrential because a monster was Summoned. But due to the above scenario, I'm just confused how the exact sequence of events played out.

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Okay, firstly...I may need a specific example of these effects/cards.

 

A monster with the "Ancient Gear" clause does not "activate" its effect. It's a continuous Effect and does not start a chain, therefore Divine Wrath cannot be used.

 

You said "its second effect" so I'm under the impression there's an effect in play that negates cards. The problem being that Wrath is a Counter Trap and no monster Effect can chain to a Counter Trap (it's Spell Speed 3, which only Counter Traps are)

 

As for the last part, if you activate a Trap Monster and Special Summon it by its effect, you may use Torrential because a monster was Summoned. But due to the above scenario, I'm just confused how the exact sequence of events played out.

 

Okay, I should of stated this is for a fan-fic, sorry....I didn't want to reveal the cards but it looks like I have no choice. These are the enemy cards, so they are supposed to be powerful....

 

Celestial Eagle of Wisdom’s effects are.

 

Remove 3 cards from your Deck and your opponent cannot activate Spell or Trap Cards when you declare and attack. Once per turn, you can remove 2 cards on the field to negate the activation of a Spell or Trap and remove it from play.

 

He used Celestial Eagle of Wisdom’s first effect:

 

I used Divine Wrath

 

He used Celestial Eagle of Wisdom's second effect.

 

Then I used Machine King and Torrential...

 

So, does the effects play out where, all the monsters are dead and none of the effects are activated?

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Okay, I should of stated this is for a fan-fic, sorry....I didn't want to reveal the cards but it looks like I have no choice. These are the enemy cards, so they are supposed to be powerful....

 

Celestial Eagle of Wisdom’s effects are.

 

Remove 3 cards from your Deck and your opponent cannot activate Spell or Trap Cards when you declare and attack. Once per turn, you can remove 2 cards on the field to negate the activation of a Spell or Trap and remove it from play.

 

He used Celestial Eagle of Wisdom’s first effect:

 

I used Divine Wrath

 

He used Celestial Eagle of Wisdom's second effect.

 

Then I used Machine King and Torrential...

 

So, does the effects play out where, all the monsters are dead and none of the effects are activated?

 

Okay, now I understand.

 

Celestial Eagle cannot negate Divine Wrath because Divine Wrath is a Counter Trap, and is Spell Speed 3, whereas Eagle's second effect seems to be a Quick Effect (Spell Speed 2).

 

But in the event you used a Spell Speed 2 effect (Fiendish Chain for example) to try to negate Eagle, then Chain could be negated by the second effect, and you could activate Machine King B.C. and use Torrential after BC resolves (since it Summons at resolution), destroying all monsters on the field.

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Okay, now I understand.

 

Celestial Eagle cannot negate Divine Wrath because Divine Wrath is a Counter Trap, and is Spell Speed 3, whereas Eagle's second effect seems to be a Quick Effect (Spell Speed 2).

 

But in the event you used a Spell Speed 2 effect (Fiendish Chain for example) to try to negate Eagle, then Chain could be negated by the second effect, and you could activate Machine King B.C. and use Torrential after BC resolves (since it Summons at resolution), destroying all monsters on the field.

 

Thank you....+rep to you....

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OCG question pertaining to the new Exceed/Xyz monsters:

 

Is there a definite answer to what they're going to call what we once knew as Exceed Material Monsters? Will it be Xyz Material Monsters, or will they use a different term? (Asking because I want to know what to write for effects that call for you to 'remove an Exceed Material Monster from this card'.)

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OCG question pertaining to the new Exceed/Xyz monsters:

 

Is there a definite answer to what they're going to call what we once knew as Exceed Material Monsters? Will it be Xyz Material Monsters, or will they use a different term? (Asking because I want to know what to write for effects that call for you to 'remove an Exceed Material Monster from this card'.)

 

If Xyz is the term for what we knew as Exceeds, it'll be Xyz Material Monsters in place of Exceed Material Monsters. It would make sense, considering what we call "Fusion Material Monsters" and "Synchro Material Monsters"

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Okay, sorry, I'm back again....

 

Banish=Remove as of new OCG from RC Thread Update....

 

Synchro Release

 

Quick Play Spell

 

You can banish 3 cards from your Extra Deck to Special Summon 1 Synchro Monster from your Extra Deck whose levels are 5 or lower in face-up Defense Position. It is destroyed at the End Phase.

 

Lets say i summoned Formula Synchron with it, would I get its second effect still?

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Okay, sorry, I'm back again....

 

Banish=Remove as of new OCG from RC Thread Update....

 

Synchro Release

 

Quick Play Spell

 

You can banish 3 cards from your Extra Deck to Special Summon 1 Synchro Monster from your Extra Deck whose levels are 5 or lower in face-up Defense Position. It is destroyed at the End Phase.

 

Lets say i summoned Formula Synchron with it, would I get its second effect still?

 

The second effect is to use it as Synchro Material and Synchro Summon during the opponent's Main Phase? Yes, if you used that hypothetical card during your opponent's turn, you'd still be able to use Formula Synchron's effect. You just won't draw because the card wasn't Synchro Summoned, and also afterwards cannot Special Summon it from the Grave or RFG Zone for the same reason.

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