evilfusion Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 @Tsukasa Hiiragi: Well, I was thinking as in this for the fourth... I Special Summon 1 "Unknown Token". My opponent play's Bottomless Trap Hole, would it go through? I'm sure it would. And Thank you..... Oh, in that case, Yes, so long as the Token fulfills the restriction of the card activated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 @Evil Fusion: So, can you return the token to the deck as the cost and what happens when the token goes to the deck? Thanks for the Token Tip...might need to think this through a little more.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 I have a few questions, its about Tokens...... First, can you use tokens to Synchro Summon?Second, can you equip an equip card to an Token.Third, can a card effect increase, decrease, protect your token monster depending on the card? i;e: Swords of Revealing Light, Black Pendant.Fourth: Would cards that do effects summons effect tokens? Fifth: Does the level of the Token sill apply to the Synchro level requirement? That's about it, I might have more questions later...I am currently in progress building an Token Archetype, that requires and utilizes Tokens to win the games. Tokens are consider Normal Monsters while on the field, so anything that'd normally be applied to Normal Monsters apply to Tokens as well. 1) Yes, Tokens can be used to Synchro Summon.2) Yes, You can equip an Equip Spell Card to a Token.3) Yes, you can increase the ATK, reduce the ATK, and protect your tokens with cards like Swords of Revealing Light.4) Not sure what this means, but Tokens are Special Summoned. Cards that would affect Special Summoned monsters would affect Tokens. Cards that prevent Special Summons would mean that Tokens cannot be Special Summoned.5) Yes. What happens if you flip an exceed monster facedown, like with Book of Moon or something? As odd as it sounds to me, the ruling (according to those who have posted them) has been that the Exceed Materials stay overlaid on the Exceed Monster, even if its flipped face-down. Okay, my friend used Double-Edged Sword Technique and then Exceed Summoned(we were using Proxies)Does he take damage from Double-Edged Sword Technique's final effect?I know they're not techniqually on the field, but its not like they are in the Graveyard or Removed from Play... or in the Deck or in your HandBut yeah... need some help so I can know if I beat him or lost and argued for nothing No, because the monsters Summoned by Double-Edged Sword Technique were not destroyed by the effects of Double-Edged Sword Technique. @Evil Fusion: So, can you return the token to the deck as the cost and what happens when the token goes to the deck? No, you cannot return a token to the Deck, to the Hand, or send it to the Graveyard as a cost of an effect because they are destroyed when removed from the field, so you cannot pay the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 @Evil Fusion: So, can you return the token to the deck as the cost and what happens when the token goes to the deck?You cannot "return" or "send" tokens as a cost. Anything else (besides flipping them) is fair game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Well, how can I make it so my card that I want to require tokens as a cost, how would I do that? Or otherwise this plan is scrapped....maybe.....but they can be removed from play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Well, how can I make it so my card that I want to require tokens as a cost, how would I do that? Or otherwise this plan is scrapped....maybe.....but they can be removed from play.Tribute? Destroy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Well, how can I make it so my card that I want to require tokens as a cost, how would I do that? Or otherwise this plan is scrapped....maybe.....but they can be removed from play. Either "Remove from play" the tokens or "Tribute" the tokens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Well, how can I make it so my card that I want to require tokens as a cost, how would I do that? Or otherwise this plan is scrapped....maybe.....but they can be removed from play. Tokens can be "Tributed" as a cost, or sent to the Graveyard due to an effect. They cannot be "sent to the Graveyard" as a cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Okay, so lets say this... This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by removing or tributing 2 "Wheat Tokens" you control. Will that work? @Evil Fusion: Thank you, I understand now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Just say tribute, and as long as the tokens can be tributed, then you'll be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Thanx for the Help... i guess I argued for nothing the fact that it would make me lose:'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 @Tsukasa, Darkwulf, and Evil Fusion: Thank you for all your help, and I appreciate it. Last 2 questions for the ahwile... First, lets say you attack and your opponent activates a card effect to negate it or something, what if you activated a card effect to negate your attack after your opponent has activated their card effect, would they lose their card and the effect is not applied, or what? Second: If an card effect returned a Token to your hand or deck, do they remain there or disappear? + rep to the 3that has helped me, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 @Tsukasa, Darkwulf, and Evil Fusion: Thank you for all your help, and I appreciate it. Last 2 questions for the ahwile... First, lets say you attack and your opponent activates a card effect to negate it or something, what if you activated a card effect to negate your attack after your opponent has activated their card effect, would they lose their card and the effect is not applied, or what? Second: If an card effect returned a Token to your hand or deck, do they remain there or disappear?1. Your effect would go first, then their's would just go away. For example, they activate Magic Cylinder. You somehow negate your own attack. Magic Cylinder was unable to negate the attack, so damage is not applied. The same would NOT work with mirror force, since it only requires you to declare an attack, then just nukes your attack positions monsters. 2. If a token leaves the field, it dissappears. No exceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 @Tsukasa: Thanks..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 First, lets say you attack and your opponent activates a card effect to negate it or something, what if you activated a card effect to negate your attack after your opponent has activated their card effect, would they lose their card and the effect is not applied, or what? For cards like Magic Cylinder and Draining Shield, they must be the card that negates the attack in order to Inflict Damage or Recover Life Points respectively. If another card is chained to Magic Cylinder that negates your monster's attack instead, then Magic Cylinder DID NOT negate the attack and the damage does not occur. Second: If an card effect returned a Token to your hand or deck, do they remain there or disappear? If an effect returns a Token to the Hand or Deck, then they are removed from the field and just disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Quick question:Does the dumping effect of Future Fusion act as a cost?The situation: I activate Future Fusion. My opponent chains Icarus Attack to it, destroying it and a dace-down card.Do I still get to mill the materials? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Chaos Sorceror targets my Crystal Beast Amber Mammoth. I use Raigeki Break to send Mammoth to the S/T zone. Is Mammoth still removed since he keeps his name while in the S/T zone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Quick question:Does the dumping effect of Future Fusion act as a cost?The situation: I activate Future Fusion. My opponent chains Icarus Attack to it, destroying it and a dace-down card.Do I still get to mill the materials? Sending Fusion Material Monsters to the Graveyard is not a cost. The monster you plan on Fusion Summoning is chosen during resolution and then the materials are sent. Chaos Sorceror targets my Crystal Beast Amber Mammoth. I use Raigeki Break to send Mammoth to the S/T zone. Is Mammoth still removed since he keeps his name while in the S/T zone? No. Name is not even a factor for Chaos Sorcerer's effect (Chaos Sorcerer removes Face-Up Monster cards. As long as it is "Face-Up" and is considered a "Monster Card", then it is valid) In any case, It is not the same card anymore. Crystal Beast Amber Mammoth was destroyed by Raigeki Break, removing it from the field and placing it onto a S/T card zone instead of sending it to the Graveyard. The Crystal Beast does not slide from the Monster Card Zone to the Spell/Trap Card Zone; it is removed from the field and then placed into the Spell/Trap Card zone. Chaos Sorcerer lost its target. Even if it wasn't lost, Chaos Sorcerer removes from play face-up monsters only. Since the Crystal Beast is now a Continuous Spell Card, it wouldn't even be a valid target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 I'm ruining the 6666 here :/ Anyway, are Korean cards allowed to be used in TCG tourneys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 I feel weird asking this after many years of playing, but never have I been in a situation were this is cleared xD-Can I conduct turn Phases without activity? For example: Declaring Battle Phase without attacking at all, or declaring Main Phase 1 or 2 without activating, changing, setting, or Summoning anything. -(This is another random question I don't really know were to ask):Are topics about "[x] hypotetical changes in the game or [x] hypotetical card(s)" illegal in this section, or does it go somewhere in a subforum closeby like in strategy? =0 -If I activate Mischief of the Yokai and there is a Level 2 or lower monster(s) on the field, since Level 0 doesn't exist in the game, does it decrease at least 1 Level or does it stay the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 I feel weird asking this after many years of playing, but never have I been in a situation were this is cleared xD-Can I conduct turn Phases without activity? For example: Declaring Battle Phase without attacking at all, or declaring Main Phase 1 or 2 without activating, changing, setting, or Summoning anything. -(This is another random question I don't really know were to ask):Are topics about "[x] hypotetical changes in the game or [x] hypotetical card(s)" illegal in this section, or does it go somewhere in a subforum closeby like in strategy? =0 -If I activate Mischief of the Yokai and there is a Level 2 or lower monster(s) on the field, since Level 0 doesn't exist in the game, does it decrease at least 1 Level or does it stay the same? 1) Yes. You can progress through the phases of your turn without doing anything in any of them. 2) At one point they were allowed, then disallowed, then allowed...I'm not sure on the current stance. 3) The lowest level any monster can have is level 1. Effects that would reduce to 0 or lower will make the level 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 What happens if I mill the last 3 Lightsworn monsters in my deck with Charge, and do I have to show my opponent my remaining deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 What happens if I mill the last 3 Lightsworn monsters in my deck with Charge, and do I have to show my opponent my remaining deck? The rest of the effect disappears as you no longer have a target to search. Yes, you show them the deck if only for them to confirm you have no legal targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Can "Royal Oppression" be activated in the Damage Step? Also, to settle it once and for all for my friend:Do 2 "Batteryman D"s form an attack lock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Can "Royal Oppression" be activated in the Damage Step? No, it cannot. Also, to settle it once and for all for my friend:Do 2 "Batteryman D"s form an attack lock? No, they do not. The card states your opponent cannot select Thunder-Type monsters for an attack (except "Batteryman D"). Therefore, cards named "Batteryman D" are not protected by this effect and your opponent can attack any "Batteryman D" you control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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