Sleepy Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 If I have "X" Crystal Beast(s) in the Monster Card Zone(s) and my opponent uses Black Rose Dragon, can I place them in the Spell/Trap Card Zone(s) or will they have to go to the Graveyard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 If I have "X" Crystal Beast(s) in the Monster Card Zone(s) and my opponent uses Black Rose Dragon, can I place them in the Spell/Trap Card Zone(s) or will they have to go to the Graveyard? They will go to the S/T zone, provided you have enough spaces for them at the time of destruction (treating the current S/Ts as still in play). They will survive the field nuke to that extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 I've also heard Necrovalley prevents the Majestics from returning to the Extra at the end of the turn, because the return and the special summon are all part of the same effect. This would've been true before the updated lore. Now that the lore is updated and corrected, it does not work. 2) Necrovalley does not prevent the Majestics from returning, but it will prevent the Special Summon. There is nothing preventing the Majestic from returning to the Extra Deck, only something preventing the Special Summon. You will still return the Majestic even if Stardust/Red Dragon isn't in the Graveyard. Cards that prevent returning to the Deck will prevent a Majestic's return effect, such as G.B. Hunter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 I meant in that situation, with Necrovalley. Necrovalley doesn't restrict cards returning to the deck/Extra Deck. I followed that with an example of another case when Majestics will still bounce themselves, even though nothing can be Special Summoned as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 I meant in that situation, with Necrovalley. Necrovalley doesn't restrict cards returning to the deck/Extra Deck. I followed that with an example of another case when Majestics will still bounce themselves, even though nothing can be Special Summoned as a result. Sorry, i read it as "there's nothing that could prevent the return" o.x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Mind Control steals Vanity's Fiend/Kristya. Bounce for Birdman. Legal move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Mind Control steals Vanity's Fiend/Kristya. Bounce for Birdman. Legal move? No. You cannot attempt to perform a Special Summon when cards on the field prevent Special Summons. This includes activating an effect which Special Summons, and performing inherent Special Summons. Since you cannot attempt to Special Summon in the first place, you cannot pay the costs which would remove the monster restricting you from the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 I know this sounds stupid, but this was the first time I tried it. Can Birthright revie Gaia Knight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 No. It's a non-effect monster, but not a normal monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Knew it s***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Can Formula Synchron perform a Synchro Summon in response to Brionac? If I Synchro Summon Black Rose Dragon when my opponent declares the end of the Main Phase, they must proceed to the Battle Phase with an empty field, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Can Formula Synchron perform a Synchro Summon in response to Brionac? If I Synchro Summon Black Rose Dragon when my opponent declares the end of the Main Phase, they must proceed to the Battle Phase with an empty field, correct? 1) Yes. Formula Synchron is a Quick Effect and therefore Spell Speed 2. It can chain to Brionac and Synchro Summon. Brionac then resolves its effect (if the target has disappeared as a result of the Synchro Summon), then nothing happens. 2) Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Can Formula Synchron perform a Synchro Summon in response to Brionac? Formula Synchron's effect is a Quick Effect. Since it is Spell Speed 2 and during the Main Phase, you can chain it to Brionac's effect. If I Synchro Summon Black Rose Dragon when my opponent declares the end of the Main Phase, they must proceed to the Battle Phase with an empty field, correct? No. If a card is activated when a player declares the End of the Main Phase, after it resolves they can then choose to continue their Main Phase if they'd like to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Really? So if I choose to enter my Battle Phase, and my opponent uses a card at the End of the Main Phase, I can choose to continue my Main Phase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Really? So if I choose to enter my Battle Phase, and my opponent uses a card at the End of the Main Phase, I can choose to continue my Main Phase? Yes. All of the video games will give you the option to "Continue your Main Phase?" before entering the Battle Phase if such an event occured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Trade-In's discard. Cost or effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Trade-In's discard. Cost or effect? Cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Can a face-down Gravekeeper's Visionary save itself from destruction by battle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Can a face-down Gravekeeper's Visionary save itself from destruction by battle? It should be able to. Its protection effect (against battle anyway) occurs during Damage Calculation, when it has been flipped face-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Why can't I use Cross Porter's searching effect if it Tributes itself for its own effect? The Summoning of a Neo Spacian from the hand and the sending of 1 monster to the Graveyard happen at the same time as far as the way its written =0 , or at least I believe so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Why can't I use Cross Porter's searching effect if it Tributes itself for its own effect? The Summoning of a Neo Spacian from the hand and the sending of 1 monster to the Graveyard happen at the same time as far as the way its written =0 , or at least I believe so... In the OCG, The first effect of Cross Porter is more along the lines of "During your Main Phase, you can select 1 monster you control. Send that monster to the Graveyard. Then, Special Summon 1 "Neo-Spacian" monster from your hand." Cross Porter targets the monster to be sent. When resolving, the effects happen sequentially, not at the same time. Therefore, the monster is sent first, THEN the monster is Special Summoned. In the OCG, the second effect of Cross Porter would miss the timing if you sent it due to its first effect. The card text on Cross Porter in the TCG is incorrect to match the OCG rulings. According to the way it is currently worded in the TCG, Cross Porter would get its second effect if sent because of its first effect. (as you said because the way it is written). If it is not ruled that way, then the card's text should be rewritten o.x; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Can a fusion sub be used for Divine Neos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 This question is a bit hard, so reps for answers. What decks that can be considered modern are completely destroyed by Necrovalley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Can Mist Valley Falcon bounce itself to attack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Can Mist Valley Falcon bounce itself to attack? No.It can't attack while in the hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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