darkwolf777 Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 if i use double edge sword technique to bring back kageki and kagemusha, do i still take damage if they are sent to the graveyard for a synchro summon The effect says to destroy during the End Phase and Inflict Damage. If Double Edge Sword Technique doesn't destroy the monsters because they are no longer on the field or if they cannot be destroyed, then you do not take any damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 what monster is WSoL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nishi-chan Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 White Stone of Legend..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 More for double edged sword technique If it destroys 2 Kageki will I take 400 or 3400 damage? If I play 2 in one turn and all the guys are still there at the end of the turn are they destroyed 4 at a time or 2 at a time? Situation: One summons 2 copies of Shi En and the other summons 2 Chamberlain. When the Shi Ens are trying to be destroyed will I be able to destroy the Chamberlain instead and no effect damage happens, or will the effects of the 2 separate cards destroy all 4 monsters at the same time and I take lots of damage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 If it destroys 2 Kageki will I take 400 or 3400 damage? Double-Edged Sword Technique inflicts damage equal to the destroyed monster's ATK while they were on the field. Therefore, you would take 3400 Damage. If I play 2 in one turn and all the guys are still there at the end of the turn are they destroyed 4 at a time or 2 at a time? Situation: One summons 2 copies of Shi En and the other summons 2 Chamberlain. When the Shi Ens are trying to be destroyed will I be able to destroy the Chamberlain instead and no effect damage happens, or will the effects of the 2 separate cards destroy all 4 monsters at the same time and I take lots of damage? They would resolve one "Double-Edged Sword Technique" at a time, not all together. Therefore, when resolving the first one, you can destroy the other two Six Samurai instead with their effects and not take any damage as neither of the "Double-Edged Sword Technique" cards destroyed anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monztor Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Hey guys! If my opponent has two infernity monsters, no cards in hand and inernity barrier on the field..what happens when I tribute his two monsters for a lava golem? Does the barrier stop it before the monsters are tributed, or does it not activate at all because he no longer has any infernity monsters on the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Hey guys! If my opponent has two infernity monsters, no cards in hand and inernity barrier on the field..what happens when I tribute his two monsters for a lava golem? Does the barrier stop it before the monsters are tributed, or does it not activate at all because he no longer has any infernity monsters on the field Lava Golem's Summon is not an "effect", it's a Summoning Condition. Barrier can't do anything against Lava Golem. Hypothetically, even if Barrier could negate Summons (it can't), it is still useless because Lava Golem tributes the monsters as a cost, and there would be no Infernity monsters on the field when the monster is Summoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Use Limit Reverse to SS Spirit Reaper. Does this work?(AKA is Spirit Reaper destroyed by its own effect) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Use Limit Reverse to SS Spirit Reaper. Does this work?(AKA is Spirit Reaper destroyed by its own effect) Limit Reverse targets Reaper while it's on the field (same as Call of the Haunted or Premature Burial). Reaper will be revived and promptly self-destruct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monztor Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Lava Golem's Summon is not an "effect", it's a Summoning Condition. Barrier can't do anything against Lava Golem. Hypothetically, even if Barrier could negate Summons (it can't), it is still useless because Lava Golem tributes the monsters as a cost, and there would be no Infernity monsters on the field when the monster is Summoned.Thanks =) Dam, I shoulda been able to win some matches then with both my burn and reptillianes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I used to know the answer to this, but what happens if Dark Hole destroyed Sangan on both player's fields? Do both players search at the same time, or does the turn player search last, or first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nishi-chan Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 You chain Ultimate Offering to itself 3 times(no response from your opponent). Chain Link 3 resolves and you Summon Spirit Reaper(no response from your opponent because we're in the middle of a chain). Chain Link 2 resolves and you Tribute Spirit Reaper to Summon Jinzo. Would you be able to resolve Chain Link 1 or would Jinzo negate Ultimate Offering beforehand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I used to know the answer to this, but what happens if Dark Hole destroyed Sangan? Do both players search at the same time, or does the turn player search last, or first? If you mean Dark Hole destroys 2 Sangans, one that's yours and one that is your opponent's, then turn player's is lowest in chain as follows: Chain Link #1 - Turn Player's Mandatory Effect: SanganChain Link #2 - Opponent's Mandatory Effect: Sangan Resolving... Chain Link #2 - Your opponent's Sangan allows them to search for 1 card with 1500 ATK or less to add to their hand.Chain Link #1 - Your Sangan allows you to search for 1 card with 1500 ATK or less and add it to your hand. So to answer, the opponent would search and add first, then you would. You chain Ultimate Offering to itself 3 times(no response from your opponent). Chain Link 3 resolves and you Summon Spirit Reaper(no response from your opponent because we're in the middle of a chain). Chain Link 2 resolves and you Tribute Spirit Reaper to Summon Jinzo. Would you be able to resolve Chain Link 1 or would Jinzo negate Ultimate Offering beforehand? Jinzo would negate Chain Link #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Sorry, I meant to say there was a Sangan on both fields. I'm glad you were able to gather that, though. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nishi-chan Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 How would it matter, anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 You chain Ultimate Offering to itself 3 times(no response from your opponent). Chain Link 3 resolves and you Summon Spirit Reaper(no response from your opponent because we're in the middle of a chain). Chain Link 2 resolves and you Tribute Spirit Reaper to Summon Jinzo. Would you be able to resolve Chain Link 1 or would Jinzo negate Ultimate Offering beforehand? You Summon during the effect's resolution. Jinzo negates Traps, so all Traps below the Chain Link it was Summoned will be negated, including other instances of Ultimate Offering. How would it matter, anyways? Both players seek to add Exodia parts to their hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nishi-chan Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Damn >_< thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Well, depending on the situation, you can gain the advantage by adding a card to your hand after your opponent's, because then you get to pick a card that can counter whatever they added. This is especially true if the opponent's only card in their hand is the card they just added. Usually there isn't much of a change from what you would pick, but situations do exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nishi-chan Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 And THAT'S why they semi'd Royal Tribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I play Double Edged Sword Technique. At end phase, both of my monsters die, can i chain Starlight Road as 2 monsters i control would be destroyed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I play Double Edged Sword Technique. At end phase, both of my monsters die, can i chain Starlight Road as 2 monsters i control would be destroyed? No, because the effect which destroys them is a Continuous Effect that does not start a chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nishi-chan Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 I found this loop and I wanted to make sure you're allowed to do it. Don't wanna get called on this at a tourney.You have Cannon Soldier, Quillbolt Hedgehog, a generic Tuner, and Imperial Iron Wall face-up on your field. You activate Cannon Soldier's effect, tributing Quillbolt Hedgehog to inflict damage to your opponent. Then you activate Quillbolt Hedgehog's effect, since there's a Tuner on the field, you Special Summon him back to the field. You then repeat Cannon Soldier's effect, and since Imperial Iron Wall is on the field, Quillbolt Hedgehog is not removed from play. Infinite loop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 It's not actually a "loop" persay. You are activating the effects of two cards again and again, and it changes something, your opponent's Life Points. So it's a legal move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nishi-chan Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 So, technically speaking, if you had those 4 cards on the field, and you opponent had nothing to negate or destroy them, you win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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