evilfusion Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Why can some effects activate multiple times in a chain (i.e. Horus Lv8) but others cannot (Light and Darkness Dragon) ? Also why can you still use some monster's effect(s) in the Graveyard (Fusion Substitutes for a card like Dragon's Mirror?) Well, typically unless something states that it can only be used once per turn, it can be used infinite times a turn, so long as the costs and whatever can be paid if there is one, and so long as it can legally chain. Horus does not have a once-per-turn limit and it can negate Spells whenever it may activate. Since no Spell is above Spell Speed 2 (as Quick Effect monsters are), it can always chain to the activation of a Spell. LADD is a different case. For one, its effect is mandatory. It MUST chain to whatever it can. I think it was given the "once per chain" ruling both because its ATK/DEF decrease occurs during resolution (which means that without that ruling, it can hypothetically chain four or five times a chain, but only negate one effect, leaving the ones at the bottom of the chain to resolve normally, even though LADD chained to those first) and just to simplify rulings in that LADD wont negate itself. The reason for the Fusion Substitutes is because those effects state that they can substitute for any Fusion Material used for a Fusion Summon. Dragon's Mirror lets you use Material from the Graveyard, while considering it a Fusion Summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrathos Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 If I remove from play a face down monster with Junk Archer does it get removed from play face up or face down? What happens when it is returned to the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 If I remove from play a face down monster with Junk Archer does it get removed from play face up or face down? What happens when it is returned to the field? If the target is face-down, then it is removed from play face-down, and it is returned to the field face-down. You don't ever get to see the face-down card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Just for clarification because my friend is stubborn and doesn't want to believe this. If a player controls no Six Samurai monsters, summons one and I use Solemn Warning/Judgment, he can't use Magatama (sp?) to negate the effect of my trap, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Just for clarification because my friend is stubborn and doesn't want to believe this. If a player controls no Six Samurai monsters, summons one and I use Solemn Warning/Judgment, he can't use Magatama (sp?) to negate the effect of my trap, right? No he can't because the monster doesn't actually hit the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I think no, because the Summon isn't succesfull, so that Samurai isn't treated as being on the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 The timing for Solemn Warning/Judgment is before the Summon is successful. Because of this, it is at a timing when the player does not control a Six Samurai (as he's attempting to Summon the only one). So no, he cannot activate the Trap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 my friend is stubborn every time he activates Pot of Duality and says you don't have to shuffle the deck, (i think i know what the answer is but what the heck) when you use pot of duality, after you add the card to your hand would you have to shuffle your deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 my friend is stubborn every time he activates Pot of Duality and says you don't have to shuffle the deck, (i think i know what the answer is but what the heck) when you use pot of duality, after you add the card to your hand would you have to shuffle your deck? Reveal the top 3 cards of your Deck, add 1 of them to your hand, then shuffle the rest back into your Deck. They are shuffled back into the deck. They are not "placed on top/bottom of the deck". After returning the two cards left, you must shuffle your Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Chess Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Okay, I've been dying to know what is STAPLE. I know what's STALL, AGGRO, BEATDOWN, MILL, but what is STAPLE ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Okay, I've been dying to know what is STAPLE. I know what's STALL, AGGRO, BEATDOWN, MILL, but what is STAPLE ?!MST is an example of a staple, i know there are others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklord Draxon Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 If you were to use GK watcher on lightning vortex, magic jammer, or rageki break or etc. Would watcher's effect work on those type of cards that discard cards from their hand as a cost to have their card effects? If Tyrant's temper is on your field, does that mean you can't special summon monsters from your removed from play or graveyard with your trap card effects? cuz I have Tyrant's Temper on the field and I activate return from the different dimension would the monsters be special summoned and if Call of the haunted is activated and your opponent destroys it after the monster is on the field and I have Tyrant's temper on the field wouldn't destroy my monster.. A STAPLE are commonly used cards like MST and Mirror Force and Book of Moon. Bottomless Trap Hole is another example of a STAPLE card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 If you were to use GK watcher on lightning vortex, magic jammer, or rageki break or etc. Would watcher's effect work on those type of cards that discard cards from their hand as a cost to have their card effects? No, because those three cards discard a card as a "cost", not as an "effect" as required by "Gravekeeper's Watcher". If Tyrant's temper is on your field, does that mean you can't special summon monsters from your removed from play or graveyard with your trap card effects? cuz I have Tyrant's Temper on the field and I activate return from the different dimension would the monsters be special summoned and if Call of the haunted is activated and your opponent destroys it after the monster is on the field and I have Tyrant's temper on the field wouldn't destroy my monster.. A monster that is Removed From Play or in the Graveyard is "not on the field". You can Special Summon monsters with cards like "Call of the Haunted" and "Miraculous Descent" while "Tyrant's Temper" is face-up on the field. Correct, If "Call of the Haunted" or "Miraculous Descent" is destroyed while "Tyrant's Temper" is face-up on the field, the monster will not be destroyed because they are not affected by the effects of Trap Cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis El Lincer Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 if i use an enemy controller to take control of an opponent's monster in the standby phase where a treeborn frog was special summoned by its effect after enemy controller resolves and i'm still in my stand-by phase can my tree born frog activate its effect to special summon itself?/ also, LaDD vs a defense position Scrap goblin... what happens ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 1) Yes. Any time during your Standby Phase, if the conditons are fulfilled, Treeborn can be revived. 2) LADD will negate Scrap Goblin's self-destruct effect that activates at the End of the Battle Phase. The inability to be destroyed in Battle is a continuous effect and wont be negated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 if i use an enemy controller to take control of an opponent's monster in the standby phase where a treeborn frog was special summoned by its effect after enemy controller resolves and i'm still in my stand-by phase can my tree born frog activate its effect to special summon itself?/ Yes, because it is still your Standby Phase, and presumably you control no Spell/Trap cards. also, LaDD vs a defense position Scrap goblin... what happens ??? If a face-up Defense Position Scrap Goblin is attacked, and the activation of its self-destruction effect is negated by Light and Darkness Dragon, then Scrap Goblin will continue to reactivate (the conditions for activation are still correct, and the timing is still correct, and it is considered to not yet have activated this turn since its last activation was negated by LaDD), wearing down Light and Darkness Dragon until it can no longer reduce its ATK/DEF. In the end, LadDD will have its stats drained and Scrap Dragon will destroy itself, allowing the owner to get its effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallabas Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 If my opponent controls Vanity's/Kristya, can I summon Lava Golem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 If my opponent controls Vanity's/Kristya, can I summon Lava Golem? No, because you cannot Special Summon monsters. This also means you cannot even make any attempt to Special Summon a monster, even if doing so would remove said monsters first from the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallabas Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Thanks.Can you get CotLB on WC10 and where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Yes, I know it's in the game. Being a TCG Exclusive in RL, it should be available in one of the Extra Packs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~NOiSE~ Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Can I chain Book of Moon to my opponent's Bottomless Trap Hole, placing my own monster face-down and preventing it from being targeted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Well, Bottomless doesn't target, but yes. With the monster facedown, it can no longer be determined what its ATK score is, so it will not be destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 CotLB, can someone remind me what card that is (my mind went blank trying to think what it was) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Charge of the Light Brigade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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