JesusofChaos™ Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 If Player A activates Cloak and Dagger and declares Dark Armed Dragon' date=' then Player B summons Dark Armed Dragon, can Player B still activate Dark Armed Dragon's effect before it is removed by Cloak and Dagger's effect?[/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Yes because when DAD is summoned, it must be successfully summoned to have cloak and dagger atcivate its effect. Cloak and Dagger uses the chain thus you can chain DADs effect to the cloak and dagger removal effect, to destroy one card before DAD is destroyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Okay, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 If Player A activates Cloak and Dagger and declares Dark Armed Dragon' date=' then Player B summons Dark Armed Dragon, can Player B still activate Dark Armed Dragon's effect before it is removed by Cloak and Dagger's effect?[/quote'] Continuing, if you call Priority on Dark Armed Dragon, and you destroy Cloak and Dagger, then would Dark Armed Dragon stay on the field? My idea is that it should, since the Continuous trap is removed, and can no longer resolve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Right scratch my first answer as it is incorrect. Normally, after you Special Summon "Demise", you, as the Turn Player, have Priority to activate his Ignition Effect. But, since the effect of "Cloak and Dagger" is a Mandatory Trigger that automatically activates when the appropriate monster is Summoned, it 'uses' up the Turn Player's Priority and automatically becomes Chain Link 1 of the Summon Response Chain. The Turn Player can certainly chain to the effect of "Cloak and Dagger", but not with the effect of "Demise" because it's a Spell Speed 1 Ignition Effect. Im using the example of demise. Trigger effects are spell speed 2. DADs ignition effect is spell speed 1 thus cannot be chained Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Pudding Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 If a player activates Exchange, and their opponent takes their Goldd, and then the owner of the Goldd activates Card Destruction, does the Goldd get its second effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 ^ At the moment there is no official ruling. However lvl 3 judges say that only the first effect is activated. This is because of this ruling: The opponent is still considered the owner of the card you take by the effect of "Exchange" for all purposes. This means that discarding by card destruction is still considered being destroyed by your own card effect and you only get to special summon it to your side of the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axiom_Nor Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Does this create an Infinite Draw?Bottomless Shifting Sand + Id the Super Demonic Lord + CoSR Sorry if you don't do OCG rulings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 ^ I don't see why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 It is hard to rule on a card that doesnt exist but i would say no. I would rule it like d.d. scout plane where it can only return once per end phase and if it is destroyed in the end phase it is special summoned, it has to wait until the next one to special summon itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axiom_Nor Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Yea, I don't Think BSS works that way. Because if it did, it would be an auto-field nuker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 This may sound like a nooby question but if I copy Judgment Dragon with Phantom of Chaos, would I get a mill at the end of the turn if it is still present on the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Both Phantom of Chaos effect and JDs mill effect activate at the same time. Thus you can place them on a chain in any order you please. So the best way to do it would be Phantom of Chaos effect as chain link 1 JDs mill effect as chain link 2 Thus you get to mill then PoC loses the name and effect. This is the same if you take control of a LS with brain control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Thanks for clearing that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 (I'm using bad cards as an example; deal.) Say I want to Synchro Summon Hydro Genex. Now, its materials are Genex Controller and 1 or more WATER non-Tuners. If I have a monster that can take Genex Controller's name, like Neo-Spacian Dark Panther, would I still be able to Synchro Summon Hydro Genex with it, even though Dark Panther's not a Tuner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 ^No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axiom_Nor Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 More of a 'Common' ruling... but...Lets say i have Summon Plasma, and take "Garth, Lightsworn Warrior" (atk 1850)then its ATK is 2825.Opponent Shrinks.What is its ATK?Does it go into decimals? EDIT:Jinzo VS Solemn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 More of a 'Common' ruling... but...Lets say i have Summon Plasma' date=' and take "Garth, Lightsworn Warrior" (atk 1850)then its ATK is 2825.Opponent Shrinks.What is its ATK?Does it go into decimals?[/quote'] Plasma has an Original ATK of 1900 and a Continuous Effect that increases its ATK by (in this case) 925. Shrink cuts Original ATK in half. Therefore, Plasma's Original ATK (1900) is cut in half (950), and then its Continuous Effect boosts its ATK to 1875. EDIT:Jinzo VS Solemn? Long answer: Solemn negates the summon of Jinzo, so Jinzo is never on the field, and therefore Jinzo's Continuous effect is never applied and cannot negate Solemn. Short answer: Solemn wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Id also like to add that nothing in Yugimonz can go into decimals. If this happens then it is rounded up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axiom_Nor Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 meh, thats no fun... WAITTHEN I WON?!?!?! My friend had like XX25 LP, and Solemn'ed something. and he won with .5 LP=\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 ^ He would have 1 life point because they are always rounded up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Long version: If I have "Raviel, Lord of Phantasms" and "The Dark - Hex-Sealed Fusion" in my Graveyard, and activate "Dark Calling", can I use "The Dark - Hex-Sealed Fusion" as a substitute for "Evil Hero Malicious Edge" and SS "Evil Hero Malicious Devil"? Short version: Is the effect of Fusion Substitutes usable in the Graveyard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Yes you can Link- http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/COMMUNITY/forums/thread/207405.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xemba Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 If I Normal Summon Junk Synchron and Special Summon Disk Commander with it, can I get Disk Commander's effect if I then activate Book of the Moon on Junk Synchron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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