Yu-Gi-Oh! Rulings Questions

[poopybuttoxes]

Would using summon chants on my Synchro Monsters while pulling them out of my Extra Deck in a tournament setting constitute stalling? What if I were to use one when I was Normal Summoning a monster?

 

Yes, this is a fully serious question.

That would be hillarious to start yelling the thing they say when they summon the dark synchros. Also like wave the card around in the air like yugi. I mean it would be funny in a serious tournament. I do that stuff already haha.

[evilfusion]

Would using summon chants on my Synchro Monsters while pulling them out of my Extra Deck in a tournament setting constitute stalling? What if I were to use one when I was Normal Summoning a monster?

 

Yes, this is a fully serious question.

 

That's a surprisingly complex question, in my opinion.

 

It will either be funny or stupid, just like people saying "Dark Magic Attack!" when attacking with Dark Magician. Some things are just plain stupid and annoying and hint at the player's immaturity. There is no middle ground. It is either funny or stupid, with a slim chance that it's funny BECAUSE it's stupid.

 

However, the Summon chants, to some fans, are just plain awesome. So now instead I wonder whether you'd say them in Japanese or the translation of them. Stardust Dragon's Japanese Summon Chant is much more recognizable (since it's said so often). I think if you quoted Stardust Dragon's summon chant clearly in Japanese while Synchro Summoning Stardust, I'd actually be pretty amused. And also how you deliver it will make a huge difference. Some people, when quoting something, speak too slowly, making the whole thing annoying, or too quickly, and no one understands what you said. Practicing the line(s) and the delivery would make all the difference in the world.

 

If you are low on time, I'd consider you wasting time to do a summon chant for your Synchro monster, but whether I'd call you on stalling or not depends on how long you take. And I don't even need to be low on time to say yes, you'd be wasting time for Normal Summons (unless you're doing the playable Ra, in which case, have at it). During a tense match, it would be great to have some comic relief, but not everyone is in the mood to laugh and will just get P.O.ed.

[Expelsword]

Does Pyro Clock of Destiny do anything for Destiny Board?

[evilfusion]

No. Destiny Board doesn't count "turns". It activates during opposing End Phases.

 

Pyro Clock really doesn't affect too many cards. Only cards that count "turns", not particular phases.

[darkwolf777]

Does Pyro Clock of Destiny do anything for Destiny Board?

 

No, as Destiny Board doesn't count turns at all.

[Expelsword]

No, as Destiny Board doesn't count turns at all.

 

Follow-up question: Why was Pyro Clock of Destiny printed?

[evilfusion]

Hell if I know. It was used in the anime by Noah to make Swords of Revealing Light expire a turn early. It also works on Nightmare Steel Cage, Final Countdown, the Virus cards, Lightforce Sword...

 

It's one of those useless cards that has a use, however few, but is in no way a good use of deckspace.

[.:Incognito:.]

In the world championship games when the opponent summoned an earthbound immortal he had no other monsters. Doesn't that mean that I can attack him directly, since he can't be selected as a target. That's the ruling for The Legendary Fisherman.

[BDKMRV]

Of course.

 

 

Ok. lol I got kind of confused with yugiohwikia's ruling.

[darkwolf777]

In the world championship games when the opponent summoned an earthbound immortal he had no other monsters. Doesn't that mean that I can attack him directly, since he can't be selected as a target. That's the ruling for The Legendary Fisherman.

 

No, The Legendary Fisherman is just special that way >_>

 

"Cannot be declared as an attack target" by an Earthbound Immortal means your opponent cannot choose to select the Earthbound Immortal as a target. You could use cards like Shift to shift a declared attack to the Earthbound Immortal though.

 

"Cannot be attacked by your opponent's monsters" means it cannot through normal means be attacked by a normal battle. You would not be able to use a card like Shift to change the battle target to "The Legendary Fisherman" while "Umi" is on the field (at least I do not believe you can :3c) as he cannot be attacked. You can use a card like Dreamsprite to force an opponent to battle "The Legendary Fisherman" as the Battle is through an Effect (because Dreamsprite states "then calculate damage", meaning the Battle occurs due to her effect, not due to normal battle conditions).

 

Well, in any case "Cannot be declared as a target' and "cannot be attacked" are two different things.

[Canadian]

If I have plaugespreader zombie (or any Dark mosnter with 1000 ATK or less) and stardust dragon on my side of the field, when I use crush card virus, can stardust chain to it's activation even if my opponent has no mosnters with 1500 ATK or more in his/her hand or field?

 

Or, would I be allowed to check and verrify if they don't have any to be able to chain stardust or not?

 

Just a simple ruling question, thanks for your answers.

[BDKMRV]

If I have plaugespreader zombie (or any Dark mosnter with 1000 ATK or less) and stardust dragon on my side of the field, when I use crush card virus, can stardust chain to it's activation even if my opponent has no mosnters with 1500 ATK or more in his/her hand or field?

 

Or, would I be allowed to check and verrify if they don't have any to be able to chain stardust or not?

 

Just a simple ruling question, thanks for your answers.

 

 

Stardust can only be chained if there is a face-up monster on the field.

[darkwolf777]

If I have plaugespreader zombie (or any Dark mosnter with 1000 ATK or less) and stardust dragon on my side of the field, when I use crush card virus, can stardust chain to it's activation even if my opponent has no mosnters with 1500 ATK or more in his/her hand or field?

 

Or, would I be allowed to check and verrify if they don't have any to be able to chain stardust or not?

 

Just a simple ruling question, thanks for your answers.

 

You can only activate Stardust Dragon in response to Crush Card Virus if Crush Card Virus would destroy a card on the field with 1500 or more ATK. (face-down cards excluded as you cannot determine their ATK at Crush Card Virus' activation).

 

Remember, Stardust Dragon only triggers to the destruction of cards on the field. If the only cards that would be destroyed by Crush Card Virus are in the hand, Stardust Dragon would not be able to protect them.

[evilfusion]

I'm going to assume for the Crush Card example that Stardust had Shrink or something used on it, because if it's on the field, Crush Card can destroy it, so of course its effect is applicable. So I'll change the example to "Deck Devastation Virus" and then reiterate the other answers. So long as there is a FACEUP monster on your field that will be destroyed by the Virus, you can use Stardust. Otherwise you can't. It has to be known prior to resolution that one of the field cards will be destroyed. During resolution, the Virus "scans" the facedown and hand cards.

 

This same rule is applied for effects that, upon activation, is unclear if it will be destroying something, like Magical Dimension, Barrel Dragon, or Snipe Hunter. If destruction of a card is not guaranteed upon activation (due to a luck factor or an optional additional effect to destroy), then Stardust is useless against it.

[darkwolf777]

I'm going to assume for the Crush Card example that Stardust had Shrink or something used on it, because if it's on the field, Crush Card can destroy it...

 

Well, he did say it was his Stardust Dragon, not the opponent's, meaning he would activate his own Stardust on his own Crush Card Virus~

[evilfusion]

Oh right. That's why it was "just for rulings". Missed that it was his own Crush Card.

[burnpsy]

So I can't call Gottoms the Synchro that screws the rules without being rule-sharked. Great...

 

In any case, I still need help with:

 

What are the two smartest cards to target with Prohibition against popular decks?

 

So far, I have:

 

X-Sabers

 

1st: XX-Saber Darksoul

2nd: XX-Saber Hyunlei

 

Gadget Variants

 

1st: Green Gadget

2nd: Red Gadget

 

Happy Herald

 

1st: Herald of Perfection

2nd: Archlord Kristya

 

Debris-Hime Variants

 

1st: Debris Dragon

2nd: Dandylion

 

Salvo DAD

 

1st: Black Salvo

2nd: Dark Armed Dragon

 

Machina Variants

 

1st: Machina Fortress

2nd: Machina Gearframe

 

Flamvell Variants

 

1st: Rekindling

2nd: Flamvell Magician

[Big Mac]

Solidarity question.

 

Solidarity states that if "only 1 original (printed) Type of monster in your Graveyard" then other monsters of the same type gain the attack boost. So here's my question. In machina builds, several of the monsters used (specificaly Gearframe) are labled Machine/Union. If say a gadget is on the field with solidarity and a gearframe in the grave, would the gadget recieve the attack boost, even though the gadget only shares one of the types on gearframe?

[Big Mac]

Solidarity question.

 

Solidarity states that if "only 1 original (printed) Type of monster in your Graveyard" then other monsters of the same type gain the attack boost. So here's my question. In machina builds, several of the monsters used (specificaly Gearframe) are labled Machine/Union. If say a gadget is on the field with solidarity and a gearframe in the grave, would the gadget recieve the attack boost, even though the gadget only shares one of the types on gearframe?

 

EDIT: Sorry for the double post. Computer F***ed up during posting.

[burnpsy]

"Union" isn't a type.

[Big Mac]

"Union" isn't a type.

 

Thank you for clarifiying for me.

[evilfusion]

Solidarity refers to Type. The second part is a classification, not a type. Such classifications are: Effect, Tuner, Spirit, Union, Toon, Gemini etc. They play a part in how the card works and some support, but they are not "Types".

 

What Solidarity means is that if only Dragon monsters are in your graveyard, all Dragons on your field get 800 ATK. Zombie World changes the Types of the monsters in the Graveyard, but Solidarity avoids abuse there by saying the "original" type applies, not any changes.

[Manjoume Thunder]

1000-Eyes Dragon can copy Mirage's effect, right?

[Kyosuke Kiryu]

Yeah, it can Manjy.

[Manjoume Thunder]

Nice ...