Yu-Gi-Oh! Rulings Questions

[evilfusion]

Wicked Avatar will automatically increase its score to match the strongest, so Honest will give the Light monster Avatar's attack (at the moment of resolution), but then the Avatar's ATK will change as well.

 

There is absolutely no way outside of Effect Negation that the Wicked Avatar will ever have less ATK than the monster it battles.

[Legend Zero]

So if someone Harden Arm Dragon'd Avatar then there is literally no way to get him off the field.

[evilfusion]

Sure there is. RFG it (D-Prison/Caius, etc), bounce/spin it (Compulsory, Raiza). You just can't DESTROY it by effects or battle. Granted, it locks you down from using S/Ts for 2 turns, but unless the opponent has a decent monster on their field, it won't have much ATK to deal damage quickly.

[snow77]

WTH

[Shinzuku]

Can you add a Water to Graveyard without adding Genex Controller to your hand for Undines effect?

[darkwolf777]

Can you add a Water to Graveyard without adding Genex Controller to your hand for Undines effect?

 

To activate Genex Undine's effect, you must have a Genex Controller in your deck. If you do not, then you cannot activate the effect (and therefore, you cannot pay the cost to send 1 Water monster to the Graveyard.)

 

You cannot choose not to add Genex Controller to your hand if you activate this effect. If you activate it, you must add one from the Deck to your hand.

[Sephiroth_The_Legend]

whats the different between 5th gadget and 7th gadget?

 

5th gadget:

 

45 card deck, using 9 gadgets.

thus a 1/5th chance of drawing a gadget.

 

7th gadget

 

40 card deck, using 6 gadgets

thus a 1/7th chance of drawing a gadget.

[Manjoume Thunder]

whats the different between 5th gadget and 7th gadget?

 

5th gadget:

 

45 card deck' date=' using 9 gadgets.

thus a 1/5th chance of drawing a gadget.

 

7th gadget

 

4[b']2[/b] card deck, using 6 gadgets

thus a 1/7th chance of drawing a gadget.

 

Fixed. But not many people run 42 cards anymore. 40 is the new 42.

[Mysty]

If Goyo Guardian attacks Colossal Fighter that had its attack halved' date=' then Goyo Guardian effect can be activated, but will not have a target because Colossal Fighter's effect is mandatory so Goyo can only be chain link 1 correct?

[/quote']

 

Incorrect. A mandatory effect is lowest in the chain. Colossal Fighter will be Chain Link 1. Goyo Guardian (an optional effect) will be Chain Link 2. Goyo Guardian will steal Colossal Fighter.

 

The statement implied by the bold and your answer are both wrong; Colossal Fighter is an optional effect, so it really depends on whose turn it is to show who gets the effect first. (Check the errata on Colossal Fighter. It's on the wikia.) Since it's the Goyo's controller's turn, Goyo will activate first, so Colossal will resolve first and most likely revive, so Goyo can't steal them.

Had it been the Colossal Fighter's controller's turn, Goyo would resolve first and stal Colossal.

 

whats the different between 5th gadget and 7th gadget?

 

5th gadget:

 

45 card deck' date=' using 9 gadgets.

thus a 1/5th chance of drawing a gadget.

 

7th gadget

 

4[b']2[/b] card deck, using 6 gadgets

thus a 1/7th chance of drawing a gadget.

 

Fix'd. The math was off a bit.

In other words, to change a deck from 5th Gadget to 7th Gadget, you remove one of each Gadget and then maybe change some other cards in the deck.

 

EDIT: Manjoume Thunder beat me to this second part.

[darkwolf777]

If Goyo Guardian attacks Colossal Fighter that had its attack halved' date=' then Goyo Guardian effect can be activated, but will not have a target because Colossal Fighter's effect is mandatory so Goyo can only be chain link 1 correct?

[/quote']

 

Incorrect. A mandatory effect is lowest in the chain. Colossal Fighter will be Chain Link 1. Goyo Guardian (an optional effect) will be Chain Link 2. Goyo Guardian will steal Colossal Fighter.

 

The statement implied by the bold and your answer are both wrong; Colossal Fighter is an optional effect...

 

BZZZZT Stop there, cowboy. What part of "When this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard, Special Summon 1 Warrior-Type monster from either player's Graveyard" is the optional part? Without the word "can", its a mandatory effect. YOU MUST SPECIAL SUMMON 1 WARRIOR-TYPE MONSTER based on this wording. Unless there's been some errata for this card, this is a mandatory effect, and therefore will be lowest on the chain, making it Chain Link 1 against a Goyo Guardian's optional effect, no matter whose turn it is.

[Mysty]

If Goyo Guardian attacks Colossal Fighter that had its attack halved' date=' then Goyo Guardian effect can be activated, but will not have a target because Colossal Fighter's effect is mandatory so Goyo can only be chain link 1 correct?

[/quote']

 

Incorrect. A mandatory effect is lowest in the chain. Colossal Fighter will be Chain Link 1. Goyo Guardian (an optional effect) will be Chain Link 2. Goyo Guardian will steal Colossal Fighter.

 

The statement implied by the bold and your answer are both wrong; Colossal Fighter is an optional effect...

 

BZZZZT Stop there, cowboy. What part of "When this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard, Special Summon 1 Warrior-Type monster from either player's Graveyard" is the optional part? Without the word "can", its a mandatory effect. YOU MUST SPECIAL SUMMON 1 WARRIOR-TYPE MONSTER based on this wording. Unless there's been some errata for this card, this is a mandatory effect, and therefore will be lowest on the chain, making it Chain Link 1 against a Goyo Guardian's optional effect, no matter whose turn it is.

 

Check the FAQ and errata guides released by Konami; at least one of them says Colossal says "you can" in its effect.

[evilfusion]

I just checked and Colossal has been errata'd to "Can"

[darkwolf777]

If that's so, then sorry for countering you. In that case, i'll have to go back and edit some of the answers previously in regards to Colossal Fighter i've answered x.o; Stupid erratas. Let's blame Konami. It makes me feel better and doesn't make me look like such a bad person.

[Mysty]

If that's so' date=' then sorry for countering you. In that case, i'll have to go back and edit some of the answers previously in regards to Colossal Fighter i've answered x.o; Stupid erratas.

[/quote']

 

That's okay, but here's a good link you might want to remember: http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/gameplay/errata/YGOErrata100105.pdf

[evilfusion]

I'm not really up-to-date on erratas myself. Just in this case, the errata COMPLETELY changes how the card works. It's annoying because most people might not realize there was an errata.

[darkwolf777]

Yar, knowing Colossal is Optional instead of Mandatory changes things about the way Goyo vs Colossal works for sure.

[evilfusion]

So now what happens depends on turn player? If Goyo kills Colossal during Goyo's turn, they have priority to activate Goyo's effect, so it'll be Chain Link 1 and then Colossal player can activate Colossal's effect as Chain Link 2, so Colossal resolves first, and vice versa if Turns are switched?

 

Or is it the other way around?

[darkwolf777]

So now what happens depends on turn player? If Goyo kills Colossal during Goyo's turn' date=' they have priority to activate Goyo's effect, so it'll be Chain Link 1 and then Colossal player can activate Colossal's effect as Chain Link 2, so Colossal resolves first, and vice versa if Turns are switched?

 

Or is it the other way around?

[/quote']

 

Assuming Goyo Guardian survives the fight (If Goyo Guardian dies, the effect will not work since Goyo will be in the Graveyard when its effect should activate), depending on whose turn, it will resolve differently:

 

Since Turn player's Optional effect will be first in the chain before an opponent's optional effect:

 

Turn Player's Goyo (Chain Link 1) vs Opponent's Colossal (Chain Link 2): Colossal Special Summons 1 Warrior-Type monster (presumably itself), then Goyo Special Summons Colossal Fighter (and if Colossal Fighter special summoned itself, then Goyo would fizzle).

 

Turn Player's Colossal Fighter (Chain Link 1) vs Opponent's Goyo Guardian (Chain Link 2): Goyo Guardian Special Summons Colossal Fighter, then Colossal Fighter Special Summons 1 Warrior-Type monster (if the player chose to Special Summon Colossal Fighter at the card's activation, then the effect would fizzle,but will work if the player should chose a different Warrior-Type monster).

[evilfusion]

Okay, so I grasped that right. Now here's something that's always given me trouble.

 

When a Monarch, such as Mobius, is summoned, does it target before or after your opponent gets the chance to chain?

 

For that matter, same question regarding most targeting effects?

 

Is there any clear way to ascertain if an effect targets?

[BehindTheMask]

Okay' date=' so I grasped that right. Now here's something that's always given me trouble.

 

When a Monarch, such as Mobius, is summoned, does it target before or after your opponent gets the chance to chain?

 

For that matter, same question regarding most targeting effects?

 

Is there any clear way to ascertain if an effect targets?

[/quote']

 

1) When a monster is summoned, your opponent has the ability to negate the summon. If not, Turn player has PRIORITY to activate the effects of effect monster cards.

 

So, lets say I have Snipe Hunter, Treeborn Frog on the field, and my opponent has 2 face down spell and traps and a spirit reaper in DEF mode.

 

I summon Mobius the Frost Monarch. He does not negate the summon, so I can use PRIORITY to activate the effect of either SNIPE HUNTER or MOBIUS(in this case, I will use Mobius). Then my opponent can choose to chain to Mobius.

 

2) Remember turn player has Priority, not cards.

 

3) It depends on the card. Cards like "Smashing Ground" and Fissure do not target, because upon resolving, the card is chosen. Try to use logic to ascertain(nice word choice, btw), what cards target.

[evilfusion]

Okay' date=' so I grasped that right. Now here's something that's always given me trouble.

 

When a Monarch, such as Mobius, is summoned, does it target before or after your opponent gets the chance to chain?

 

For that matter, same question regarding most targeting effects?

 

Is there any clear way to ascertain if an effect targets?

[/quote']

 

1) When a monster is summoned, your opponent has the ability to negate the summon. If not, Turn player has PRIORITY to activate the effects of effect monster cards.

 

So, lets say I have Snipe Hunter, Treeborn Frog on the field, and my opponent has 2 face down spell and traps and a spirit reaper in DEF mode.

 

I summon Mobius the Frost Monarch. He does not negate the summon, so I can use PRIORITY to activate the effect of either SNIPE HUNTER or MOBIUS(in this case, I will use Mobius). Then my opponent can choose to chain to Mobius.

 

2) Remember turn player has Priority, not cards.

 

3) It depends on the card. Cards like "Smashing Ground" and Fissure do not target, because upon resolving, the card is chosen. Try to use logic to ascertain(nice word choice, btw), what cards target.

 

Maybe my question wasn't worded right. It wasn't a question about priority, but on targeting.

 

1) I Tribute Summon Mobius and activate its effect. Do I first target the cards, then check for response, or do I check for response and then target the cards? I assume it's the former.

 

2) Verifying the same rule applies to all targeting effects. However, your response confused me. So does that mean if my opponent uses Ultimate Offering to Summon their Mobius during my Turn, I can respond before they target? If not, then you just confused me by commenting on priority.

 

3) Yeah, I guess that's best. (And thanks)

 

New question. I Tribute Summon Mobius and they chain with Intercept (counter trap, switches control of a Tribute Summoned monster using one Tribute). Who gets Mobius' effect?

 

On a similar question, Intercept is a Counter Trap, but it doesn't negate the Summon (like Solemn does). Can it work on Jinzo?

[darkwolf777]

Maybe my question wasn't worded right. It wasn't a question about priority' date=' but on targeting.

 

1) I Tribute Summon Mobius and activate its effect. Do I first target the cards, then check for response, or do I check for response and then target the cards? I assume it's the former.

 

2) Verifying the same rule applies to all targeting effects. However, your response confused me. So does that mean if my opponent uses Ultimate Offering to Summon their Mobius during my Turn, I can respond before they target? If not, then you just confused me by commenting on priority.

 

3) Yeah, I guess that's best. (And thanks)

 

New question. I Tribute Summon Mobius and they chain with Intercept (counter trap, switches control of a Tribute Summoned monster using one Tribute). Who gets Mobius' effect?

 

On a similar question, Intercept is a Counter Trap, but it doesn't negate the Summon (like Solemn does). Can it work on Jinzo?

[/quote']

 

1) To activate the effect, you must be able to destroy up to 1 or 2 cards Spell/Trap cards. To show you can do this, at activation you must be able to select that one or two cards you plan on destroying to validate your activating this card. Mobius' effect targets and they must be chosen at activation, then after choosing, your opponent can counter the activation.

 

2) Ultimate Offering doesn't target. They activate it and then you respond. Once Ultimate Offering resolves successfully, then they can perform the Normal Summon.

 

3) Nothing to say about "I guess that's best".

 

4) The person who Tribute Summoned the Monarch activates the effect and they choose the targets like normal.

 

5) No, it cannot work on Jinzo. Jinzo''s effect is a Continuous effect and does not have a Spell Speed. As soon as it is successfully summoned, its effect is active without a chain. You would not be able to activate Intercept due to Jinzo's effect.

[Chaos41]

While you control 2 X-Sabers, can you SS Faultroll with Call of the Haunted?

[-Griffin]

No.

[Sephiroth_The_Legend]

If you normal summon, can you play hidden armory?

or is similar to scapegoat where it's one or the other?