evilfusion Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 I think it still does because the effect of Black Garden is mandatory and activates whenever a monster is Normal or Special Summoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Gideon. Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 I think it still does because the effect of Black Garden is mandatory and activates whenever a monster is Normal or Special Summoned. It's in the damage step, only the "Halve ATK" eff will activate but the summon of a rose token and halving the ATK both happen at the same time ... so ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 If colossal is destroyed by battle and resummoned by its eff while Black Garden is face-up' date=' Black garden won't halve its ATk nor SS a token right ?[/quote'] A Mandatory Trigger Effect of a Spell/Trap card will activate during the Damage Step, so Colossal Fighter's ATK will be halved and a Rose Token will be summoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 Savage Collosseum - with this, do you have to switch face-up defence monsters to attack and must attack? or can you keep them in defence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted June 27, 2010 Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 Savage Collosseum - with this' date=' do you have to switch face-up defence monsters to attack and must attack? or can you keep them in defence?[/quote'] No. You can freely switch and keep monsters in Defense Position while Savage Colosseum is active. A Defense Position monster cannot attack, but must if there is an ability that allows it to attack while in Defense Position (such as Total Defense Shogun). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted June 27, 2010 Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 Savage Collosseum - with this' date=' do you have to switch face-up defence monsters to attack and must attack? or can you keep them in defence?[/quote'] No. You can freely switch and keep monsters in Defense Position while Savage Colosseum is active. A Defense Position monster cannot attack, but must if there is an ability that allows it to attack while in Defense Position (such as Total Defense Shogun). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver-Chan Posted June 27, 2010 Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 I recently learned that if I chained "Swallow's Nest" to "Mirror Force" after my monster declares an attack, I could tribute my monster, special summon another one in defense mode, and save it from being destroyed. However, wouldn't "Swallow's Nest" tribute my monster as if it never attacked (thereby "Mirror Force" being a dead card), or is this because of a new "Mirror Force" ruling/printing? (ie. DPYG's "monster declares attack" vs MRD's "monster attacks and it gets negated") I was going by the original MRD text. xD If the DPYG text harbors a new ruling or something for "Mirror Force", then I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver-Chan Posted June 27, 2010 Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 I recently learned that if I chained "Swallow's Nest" to "Mirror Force" after my monster declares an attack, I could tribute my monster, special summon another one in defense mode, and save it from being destroyed. However, wouldn't "Swallow's Nest" tribute my monster as if it never attacked (thereby "Mirror Force" being a dead card), or is this because of a new "Mirror Force" ruling/printing? (ie. DPYG's "monster declares attack" vs MRD's "monster attacks and it gets negated") I was going by the original MRD text. xD If the DPYG text harbors a new ruling or something for "Mirror Force", then I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted June 27, 2010 Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 I recently learned that if I chained "Swallow's Nest" to "Mirror Force" after my monster declares an attack' date=' I could tribute my monster, special summon another one in defense mode, and save it from being destroyed. However, wouldn't "Swallow's Nest" tribute my monster as if it never attacked (thereby "Mirror Force" being a dead card), or is this because of a new "Mirror Force" ruling/printing? (ie. DPYG's "monster declares attack" vs MRD's "monster attacks and it gets negated") I was going by the original MRD text. xD If the DPYG text harbors a new ruling or something for "Mirror Force", then I understand.[/quote'] If Mirror Force could be activated in the first place, then that means your old monster declared an attack. It doesn't matter what happens to that monster after that point. The monster is tributed by "Swallow's Nest" after it had declared an attack. Old Mirror Force wording and New Mirror Force wording would not make a difference in your case. The only difference in rulings that MRD text would have is that if the Attacking Monster were to survive being destroyed by Mirror Force, its attack would not go through after Mirror Force resolves. The way it is worded now (without the "negate the attack" clause), The Attacking Monster that survives the Mirror Force's attack will still go through successfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted June 27, 2010 Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 I recently learned that if I chained "Swallow's Nest" to "Mirror Force" after my monster declares an attack' date=' I could tribute my monster, special summon another one in defense mode, and save it from being destroyed. However, wouldn't "Swallow's Nest" tribute my monster as if it never attacked (thereby "Mirror Force" being a dead card), or is this because of a new "Mirror Force" ruling/printing? (ie. DPYG's "monster declares attack" vs MRD's "monster attacks and it gets negated") I was going by the original MRD text. xD If the DPYG text harbors a new ruling or something for "Mirror Force", then I understand.[/quote'] If Mirror Force could be activated in the first place, then that means your old monster declared an attack. It doesn't matter what happens to that monster after that point. The monster is tributed by "Swallow's Nest" after it had declared an attack. Old Mirror Force wording and New Mirror Force wording would not make a difference in your case. The only difference in rulings that MRD text would have is that if the Attacking Monster were to survive being destroyed by Mirror Force, its attack would not go through after Mirror Force resolves. The way it is worded now (without the "negate the attack" clause), The Attacking Monster that survives the Mirror Force's attack will still go through successfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver-Chan Posted June 27, 2010 Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 Ok, here's another scenario. On the field, I have a face down trap. In my hand, I have "Soul Exchange" and "Hand of Nephthys." On the field, my opponent has a face-down "Icarus Attack" and a "Harpie Queen" face-up in Attack Position. I activate "Soul Exchange" on "Harpie Queen", THEN I summon "Hand of Nephthys" from my hand. My opponent chains "Icarus Attack" to my summon to tribute "Harpie Queen" and destroy two cards on the field, namely my "Hand of Nephthys" and face-down card. Here are the questions: 1. Could I have called priority and activated "Hand of Nephthys'" ability to tribute her and the "Harpie Queen" (granted I used "Soul Exchange" prior to this) to special summon "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys" before "Icarus Attack" tributes "Harpie Queen" and I miss the target? 2. Could the opponent chain "Icarus Attack" to "Hand of Nephthys'" ability if I call priority? (Remember, only for this particular scenario where the cards I described are all we have on the field) 3. Since my opponent chained "Icarus Attack" to my summon, and let's say I could call priority (and DID), does "Icarus Attack" "fall off" or could it never be activated in the first place?" 4. If I don't call priority, "Icarus Attack" will resolve? I just wanted to clarify things. :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 27, 2010 Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 1) If you call priority on Hand's effect, it tributes both monsters as the cost. This occurs as soon as you activate the effect. THEN your opponent can try to chain, but without a Winged Beast for Icarus, they can't use it. 2) Same as above. 3) Icarus would not be able to activate because the cost cannot be paid (the Tribute of a Winged Beast). It cannot be paid because you have already tributed their monster as payment for your cost. If you don't call priority, they can use Icarus because you have yet to use Hand's effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 Can I use the effect of Lifeforce Harmonizer on the effect of Mass Driver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 You should be able to. Lifeforce Harmonizer says when the opponent activates A CARD'S EFFECT that deals damage, not just when they activate a card that deals damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 Thank you! And I'll post so that people can see the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 If I mill Wulf with Magical Merchant, does Wulf activate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 If I mill Wulf with Magical Merchant' date=' does Wulf activate?[/quote'] Yeah. Also. What happens if someone played Exchange and then used to card they stole off of the Opponent to put on top of their deck for Plague. And then the deck is shuffled before said players next turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 What happens if someone played Exchange and then used to card they stole off of the Opponent to put on top of their deck for Plague. And then the deck is shuffled before said players next turn. Pretty sure if you tried to use Plaguespreader Zombie (or any other card that returns to the deck, like using your opponent's Gladiator Beast effect in a GB Mirror Match), it would return to the owner's deck, not your own. Therefore, you can send the Exchanged card to the top of the deck, but it will be your opponent's deck since it is their card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 rulings on synchros/fusions in the extra deck?becuase in YVD, even in the side deck, sinchs/fusions still count toward the 15 extra deck limit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 They should be allowed in the side, and not count towards the extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 Question! I use the effect of my Destiny Hero - Diamond Dude to mill my top card, which turns out to be Convert Contact. Now it is my next turn's main phase and I still have Diamond Dude on the field. What happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 Question! I use the effect of my Destiny Hero - Diamond Dude to mill my top card' date=' which turns out to be Convert Contact. Now it is my next turn's main phase and I still have Diamond Dude on the field. What happens? whether u have diamond dude, u can activate convert contact. and if DH-DD is still on ur feild, you can mill another card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 Question! I use the effect of my Destiny Hero - Diamond Dude to mill my top card' date=' which turns out to be Convert Contact. Now it is my next turn's main phase and I still have Diamond Dude on the field. What happens? Activating a Normal Spell's effect through Diamond Dude allows you to bypass all costs and conditions. However, I'm not sure if ditching the Neo-Spacians is a cost or not. The wording kinda implies ditching the Neo-Spacians to be a cost, but the lolwikia TCG rulings seem to imply not (but don't quote me on that). Honestly, I don't know if you'd have to ditch the Neo-Spacians or not in order to draw 2 cards. The activation condition is definitely bypassed though.Either way, I'd say, unless you're running Neo-Spacians in that deck for a reason, replace it with another Normal spell drawing card, such as The Beginning of the End or Golden Bamboo Sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 Question! I use the effect of my Destiny Hero - Diamond Dude to mill my top card' date=' which turns out to be Convert Contact. Now it is my next turn's main phase and I still have Diamond Dude on the field. What happens? Activating a Normal Spell's effect through Diamond Dude allows you to bypass all costs and conditions. However, I'm not sure if ditching the Neo-Spacians is a cost or not. The wording kinda implies ditching the Neo-Spacians to be a cost, but the lolwikia TCG rulings seem to imply not (but don't quote me on that). Honestly, I don't know if you'd have to ditch the Neo-Spacians or not in order to draw 2 cards. The activation condition is definitely bypassed though.Either way, I'd say, unless you're running Neo-Spacians in that deck for a reason, replace it with another Normal spell drawing card, such as The Beginning of the End or Golden Bamboo Sword. According to the wording of other cards with costs, most cards with costs will either state to "Do this to perform that", being conjoined by the word "to". Also, usually card text would keep their conditions and costs in the same sentence as is usually the first sentence. (Though I wouldn't be surprised if there are card that doesn't follow this). In any case, based on the wording, I believe "Sending a Neo-Spacian from the Hand and Deck to the Graveyard" is an effect of "Convert Contact". Therefore, you cannot Draw 2 cards unless you can send the two Neo-Spacians to the Graveyard (therefore you would not be able to activate the effects of Convert Contact through Diamond Dude if you do not have the required neo-spacians). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Duo~ Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 I suppose I'll ask this. Just so we can look it up here. What would happen if Prime Material Dragon and Reficul/Bad Reaction were on the field and someone used a card inflicting damage? I came here to ask that and the first post I saw was this. What does happen? I'm too lazy to cycle through 196 pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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