evilfusion Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 It destroys every CARD on the field. Spells, Traps, Monsters. Faceup or Facedown. Your side and your opponent's side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Sequence of events when my goyo and opponents collossal bash into eachother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 If Collossal's turn:Both die. Collossal's revive activates, Goyo's snatch activates. Resolve backwards, you get their Collossal. If Goyo's turn:Goyo dies, Collossal can Summon self before the snatch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 If Collossal's turn:Both die. Collossal's revive activates' date=' Goyo's snatch activates. Resolve backwards, you get their Collossal. If Goyo's turn:Goyo dies, Collossal can Summon self before the snatch.[/quote'] This is incorrect. Goyo's "snatch" trigger is to destroy a monster in battle and send to the graveyard. If Goyo itself is no longer on the field at that time, its effect will not activate. This would be true if we were talking about Grave Squirmer or the like, whose effect is triggered by being destroyed in battle and sent to the grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 If Collossal's turn:Both die. Collossal's revive activates' date=' Goyo's snatch activates. Resolve backwards, you get their Collossal. If Goyo's turn:Goyo dies, Collossal can Summon self before the snatch.[/quote'] This is incorrect. Goyo's "snatch" trigger is to destroy a monster in battle and send to the graveyard. If Goyo itself is no longer on the field at that time, its effect will not activate. This would be true if we were talking about Grave Squirmer or the like, whose effect is triggered by being destroyed in battle and sent to the grave. If Goyo Guardian survived battle, it would not make a difference whose turn it was. Goyo Guardian is an Optional Trigger Effect, while Colossal Fighter is a Mandatory Trigger. Colossal Fighter's Mandatory Trigger will always be first in the chain, and Goyo Guardian's Optional Trigger will be second~. Grave Squirmer is also a Mandatory Trigger and would be Chain 1 always and Goyo Chain 2. Chain 1: Colossal Fighter (Target to Special Summon is chosen at this time, Do Not Choose Colossal Fighter If they plan on stealing it with Goyo (why wouldn't they? :3c))Chain 2: Goyo Guardian Resolving... Chain 2: Goyo Guardian steals Colossal FighterChain 1: Player can Special Summon their targeted Warrior-Type Monster. (and of course, If you targeted Colossal Fighter, the effect would fizzle at this time if Goyo stole it) evilfusion is correct though in terms of if Goyo is removed from the field. If Goyo is not face-up on the field after the defeated monster is "Sent to the Graveyard by battle", either because he is destroyed by the same battle, or other effect, Goyo's effect will not activate. Colossal's effect had been errata'd so that Colossal Fighter's effect to Special Summon a Warrior-Type monster is Optional (by adding You Can). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 If Collossal's turn:Both die. Collossal's revive activates' date=' Goyo's snatch activates. Resolve backwards, you get their Collossal. If Goyo's turn:Goyo dies, Collossal can Summon self before the snatch.[/quote'] This is incorrect. Goyo's "snatch" trigger is to destroy a monster in battle and send to the graveyard. If Goyo itself is no longer on the field at that time, its effect will not activate. This would be true if we were talking about Grave Squirmer or the like, whose effect is triggered by being destroyed in battle and sent to the grave. ...My post is correct if Goyo's ATK is boosted above Collosal though, right? >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Colossal had been since errata'd and the answer had been changed and this post edited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecoboy1324 Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 I have a question on Convulsion of Nature. If i were forced to shuffle my deck while it is on the field can i do it with my my bottom card facing up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 You shuffle the deck as you normally would (without being able to see the cards, because that's not legal shuffling) and then you place your deck down, bottom card facing up. Cutting the deck is also done as normal (facedown) before flipping the deck over by Convulsion's effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDKMRV Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 If SDD or SDD/AM plays its effect during damage step, then does replay occur? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Lawless Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Amazoness_VillageThe effect summons in the damage step, right? Like Giant rat? So my opponent couldn't use BTHon the monster I Summon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 From my understanding of the Replay Rule, at least provided by the Wiki, a Replay can only occur during the Battle Step, not the Damage Step, so if you attacked Blue Eyes White Dragon with Dark Magician and activated Rush Recklessly during the Damage Step, but the opponent uses SD/AM's effect to negate it, a Replay does not occur. In the event you attacked SD/AM in the same scenario and SD/AM negates Rush Recklessly, it's already gone, so the battle is halted, but no Replay will occur. @Captain Lawless: That is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 In a Glad mirror match, i play Brain Control on their glad and attack them.Can i tag it out and summon a Glad from my deck?or do i need to return the monster to my deck for that to occur. and if i had no targets at all? can i just return the monster to the deck anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professional Duelist Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 During the End Phase of the turn that this card was Normal Summoned, you can add 1 Machine-Type Tuner monster from your Deck to your hand. Can this card search a Warrior Tuner that has the text?:"This card is also treated as a Machine-Type monster." From what I understand, no right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 It should be able to, as long as it's a condition like ALO being Umi.In a Glad mirror match' date=' i play Brain Control on their glad and attack them.Can i tag it out and summon a Glad from my deck?or do i need to return the monster to my deck for that to occur. and if i had no targets at all? can i just return the monster to the deck anyway?[/quote'] You can tag it to get a Glad, but you cannot if you have no targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 so people can't return Glads if they dont have a viable target?i.e opp Brains my Bestiari, attacks, and then returns it to my deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 I believe an effect cannot be activated without a viable target. Just as you can't use Fissure if they don't have a face-up monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 however, wouldnt that require you to check their deck. like if you play ROTA but are unsure if you have any targets. or is that assumed that you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Think about it. "I return Bestiari to activate it's effect." "Alright, what do you Summon?" "Nothing." "That isn't an option." "Well, I have no targets." "Then you can't activate it." "...Fine, take back your Bestiari" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Does the same thing apply to LV monsters? I seem to recall an instance where (in one of the video games) you can send your Armed LV5, only to search your deck and discover you dont have a LV7 left in your deck. The opponent logically can do the same thing. What's the actual rule regarding such effects? Recruiter monsters like Tomato can activate its effect and come back with "no targets", can't it? Mandatory effects like Sangan obviously come across this as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professional Duelist Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 During the End Phase of the turn that this card was Normal Summoned' date=' you can add 1 Machine-Type Tuner monster from your Deck to your hand. Can this card search a Warrior Tuner that has the text?:"This card is also treated as a Machine-Type monster." From what I understand, no right?[/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 During the End Phase of the turn that this card was Normal Summoned' date=' you can add 1 Machine-Type Tuner monster from your Deck to your hand. Can this card search a Warrior Tuner that has the text?:"This card is also treated as a Machine-Type monster." From what I understand, no right?[/quote'] It can. Or should be able to. Conditions like that are always active. [cite: Harpie Lady Name Rulings.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 During the End Phase of the turn that this card was Normal Summoned' date=' you can add 1 Machine-Type Tuner monster from your Deck to your hand. Can this card search a Warrior Tuner that has the text?:"This card is also treated as a Machine-Type monster." From what I understand, no right?[/quote'] in theory, yes, they should be machines in the deck, but I am a little unsure since this rule orignaly only applied to cards that declaired their actual card names as something else, like the harpies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 The distinction is that the "Permanent name changes" for Deck building state "This card's name is treated as X". Later cards realized the "error" of this. Proto-Cyber states its name is "Cyber Dragon" while on the field. Cyber Dragon Zwei has an effect to alter its name, and is also treated as "Cyber Dragon" while in the graveyard. Dupe and Ronintoadin change their names while on the field. Without the distinction of where the change applies, it can be confusing. For example, Elemental Hero Electrum and Elemental Mistress Doriado. Where do their multiple attribute effects affect their cards? Always or just on the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 how do you spell Brionic and I'm serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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