evilfusion Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 It's because Machina Fortress can be Summoned from hand OR Graveyard. If it was only hand, or only graveyard, it wouldn't be allowed, but since it can be either, it counts for 7 stars. Just imagine if Fortress was a level 8 monster. It'd be broken beyond belief. Keep in mind that Lumina and Zombie Master can Special Summon the card they discard for the cost, provided they already have a legal target. It operates on the same principle, except permits a Fortress to be summoned from the hand, making it a legal target BEFORE you discard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDKMRV Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Can can Solemn Judgment negate the summoning of Obelisk the Tormentor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Can can Solemn Judgment negate the summoning of Obelisk the Tormentor? My Normal Summon cannot be negated. It says so on my card. Please read it before I torment you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDKMRV Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Can can Solemn Judgment negate the summoning of Obelisk the Tormentor? My Normal Summon cannot be negated. Wow. **** the Egyptian Gods. lulz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawk29 Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 If i play Ivy shakles with Blackrose Dragon in the Graveyard can i get it back with Gigaplant or Mirical Fertilizer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 Ivy Shackles only makes monsters on the field Plants, so no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 If your opponent activates Yu-Jo Friendship and you wish to accept the handshake, but do not wish to shake the person's hand, can you metaphorically accept the handshake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 you can Mindshake them, but then its not a Handshake is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 If your opponent activates Yu-Jo Friendship and you wish to accept the handshake' date=' but do not wish to shake the person's hand, can you metaphorically accept the handshake?[/quote'] NO CUZ THEN TEH YU-JO FRIENDSHIP FTK WUDN'T WORK!!!!!1!!111!!!!!111! I actually don't know the answer to this one, I just felt like giving the n00b answer. I would imagine yes you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Flame Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 If Im dueling someone on YN, and it laggs so I dont see them entering the battle phase, can I still play threatening roar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 Yes. It's their responsibility, technically, to ask if you want to chain to phase change, and to wait for a reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantasy Dreamz Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 I don't keep up to date with Yugioh TCG much, so I'm kind of confused with some new effects.So please do help:-When a Synchro monsters specify an "X-Saber" monster as a Synchro material, could I use an "XX-Saber" monster?-Are "X-Saber" monsters and "XX-Saber" monsters two different classes? Thanks in advance, for whoever answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 X-Saber and XX-Saber are the same thingIn Japan, they are referred to as Double X Saber.So techincally, they are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Okay.Apparently, Level Modulation thingy cannot Summon Horus LV8. Fair enough, he's a nomi.Apparently, Level Up! /can/. Please, someone explain the reasoning for this? The text for both is similar, and both are trying to get a Nomi that hasn't be Summoned correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 this is what wikia reckons:An "LV" monster that normally cannot be Special Summoned except by the method in its text CANNOT be Special Summoned from the Graveyard with "Level Modulation" unless it has been previously Special Summoned by the correct procedure. The "ignore the Summoning conditions" text allows for these monsters to be Special Summoned only after they have been properly Summoned by their own effect. This applies to "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8"' date=' "Armed Dragon LV7", "Silent Swordsman LV7", "Silent Magician LV8", and "Winged Kuriboh LV10".[1'] the exact reason why im not 100% sure on as they both supposedly ignore summoning conditions.the reason could be is that Level Up! asks you to Special Summon the monster listed in the card whereas Level Mod seems generic.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Okay.Apparently' date=' Level Modulation thingy cannot Summon Horus LV8. Fair enough, he's a nomi.Apparently, Level Up! /can/. Please, someone explain the reasoning for this? The text for both is similar, and both are trying to get a Nomi that hasn't be Summoned correctly.[/quote'] You cannot Special Summon a nomi monster from the Graveyard or RFG (or a semi-nomi if it hasn't been Special Summoned properly first). Cards in the Hand or Deck however don't seem to follow that rule. Cards in the Hand or Deck are in an area where they haven't had an opportunity to be Summoned at all. The whole "cannot Special Summon" business only seems to apply for Special Summoning from the Graveyard or RFG. As for Level Modulation, it would seem that it can bring back a nomi monster from the Graveyard IF it was Special Summoned properly first. It would seem that no matter what, any nomi or semi-nomi cannot be Special Summoned from the Graveyard unless it was Special Summoned properly first. If a nomi monster is Special Summoned properly first, then sent to the Graveyard, then it can be Special Summoned from the Graveyard, but only by ignoring its Summoning Conditions (where their summoning condition states "cannot be Special Summoned except by..." is what gets ignored) The rule that seems to come from this being "You cannot Special Summon a Nomi or Semi-nomi monster from the Graveyard unless it was Special Summoned properly first" is not a Summoning Condition of a monster that can be ignored, but a hard coded ruling of the game itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 X-Saber and XX-Saber are the same thingIn Japan' date=' they are referred to as Double X Saber.So techincally, they are the same.[/quote'] Though, even more technically, all XX-Sabers are X-Sabers, but not all X-Sabers are XX-Sabers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantasy Dreamz Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 X-Saber and XX-Saber are the same thingIn Japan' date=' they are referred to as Double X Saber.So techincally, they are the same.[/quote'] Though, even more technically, all XX-Sabers are X-Sabers, but not all X-Sabers are XX-Sabers. Thanks to the both of you.And I got more questions. -----On Battle Fader's effect, it says when your opponent declares a direct attack, you can special summon it and end the battle phase, so does this mean that the attack will hit you, or it'll be negated, or is the effect even before the attack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 When a direct attack is DECLARED is before the attack actually "hits". It's basically when someone first states "X attacks you". Thus, you can summon Battle Fader (which would normally trigger a Replay), and ends the battle phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monztor Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Question: If I ritual summon Herald of Perfection, and my opponent chains bottomless, can perfection defend itself with its ability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Question: If I ritual summon Herald of Perfection' date=' and my opponent chains bottomless, can perfection defend itself with its ability?[/quote'] Yes. A monster is successfully summoned before Bottomless Trap Hole can be activated, so Herald Of Perfection's effect can be activated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monztor Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Question: If I ritual summon Herald of Perfection' date=' and my opponent chains bottomless, can perfection defend itself with its ability?[/quote'] Yes. A monster is successfully summoned before Bottomless Trap Hole can be activated, so Herald Of Perfection's effect can be activated.Ty =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 However, you can't activate Herald to Solemn, obviously. Can you Bottomless Chimeratech Fortress Dragon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 However' date=' you can't activate Herald to Solemn, obviously.[/quote'] Technically, this would be right, though it is impossible to Special Summon Herald without using another card's effect (such as a Ritual Spell Card or other card effect). It wouldn't be possible to use Solemn to negate its Special Summon, only to negate the card which Special Summons it. Can you Bottomless Chimeratech Fortress Dragon? Yes, provided it has at least 1500 ATK when it is summoned. Chimeratech Fortress Dragon's effect that increases its original ATK is a Continuous Effect. It goes into effect immediately after it is Special Summoned successfully without forming a chain. Because of that, the timing is not interrupted, so you can chain Bottomless to the Successful Summon if it has 1500 ATK or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touzaikokon Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Let's say I have Koa'ki Meiru Crusader and Drago on the field. My opponent has a face-down Grave Squirmer. I attack it and destroy it by battle. He uses Grave to destroy my Drago. Can I use Crusader's effect (when it destroys a monster by battle, I can grab a Koa'ki card from my Grave), to grab that same Drago? To simplify, do their effects chain, and if so, in which order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.