werewolfjedi Posted May 29, 2010 Report Share Posted May 29, 2010 Can we use Pot of Duality during the Main Phase if we Special Summoned The Immortal Bushi during the Standby Phase??? lolwiki doesn't give any rullings about it.I personally think we cannot!! P.S: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Pot_of_Duality http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/The_Immortal_Bushi no' date=' you can't use a card that says you can do this this turn if you have already done that action, even if it was a different phase.[hr']Can we use Pot of Duality during the Main Phase if we Special Summoned The Immortal Bushi during the Standby Phase??? lolwiki doesn't give any rullings about it.I personally think we cannot!! P.S: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Pot_of_Duality http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/The_Immortal_Bushi no, you can't use a card that says you can't do this this turn if you have already done that action, even if it was a different phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
賢狼ホロ Posted May 29, 2010 Report Share Posted May 29, 2010 Can you tribute a face-down monster that cannot be tributed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted May 29, 2010 Report Share Posted May 29, 2010 EDIT: Better question My opponent activates "Fine" (Discard 2 cards) when they only have one card in their hand, can they do that and just discard the one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Borg Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Does Necrovalley negate Machina Fortress from being discarded for it's effect to special summon itself and prevent it from special summon itself from the graveyard? Can you tribute a face-down monster that cannot be tributed? No you may not. At least I'm fairly certain on that. EDIT: Better question My opponent activates "Fine" (Discard 2 cards) when they only have one card in their hand' date=' can they do that and just discard the one?[/quote'] I am guessing it is like paying a cost or hand destruction so they can not do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Does Necrovalley negate Machina Fortress from being discarded for it's effect to special summon itself and prevent it from special summon itself from the graveyard? Can you tribute a face-down monster that cannot be tributed? No you may not. At least I'm fairly certain on that. EDIT: Better question My opponent activates "Fine" (Discard 2 cards) when they only have one card in their hand' date=' can they do that and just discard the one?[/quote'] I am guessing it is like paying a cost or hand destruction so they can not do that. if the summon is from the hand, then no, in the grave, also no. machina "targets" itself, and so doesn't target any card in the grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Does Necrovalley negate Machina Fortress from being discarded for it's effect to special summon itself and prevent it from special summon itself from the graveyard? It doesn't stop it. Can you tribute a face-down monster that cannot be tributed? No you may not. At least I'm fairly certain on that. Pretty sure you can' date=' actually. I'm sure people used to CCV f/d Summoner Monks.[/b'] EDIT: Better question My opponent activates "Fine" (Discard 2 cards) when they only have one card in their hand' date=' can they do that and just discard the one?[/quote'] I am guessing it is like paying a cost or hand destruction so they can not do that. It's not a cost, but they still can't activate it because it won't resolve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eibon1307 Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Can I use level madulation on Horus LV8? yup. that is actually a strategy in one of my Decks. I use Horus LV8 to summon my Demise or my Masked Beast (Both LV 8 monsters) and then use LV Modulation to Special Summon Horus because it negates the Summoning conditions and makes it easy to get him out without needing to wait for horus LV4 and 6. That way I can have two high level monsters out and take down some LP. and if Demise or Masked Beast gets taken down, Horus is still in the Graveyard and can be summoned with LV modulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Actually, only somewhat. The ruling is that it can only be done if you already properly summoned LV8 already. There's no reason on the cards why that should be so, but that's how it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Only if Horus the Black Flame Dragon Lv 8 was Special Summoned properly (through the effect of Lv6 or Level Up!)if you didnt, level modulation does not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 For the sake of formality. I'll ask here... Can someone explain the name "Flip Troll" to me? I get how it's played. But the name sounds so horribly insulting, so explain how the name came to be? =X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Is the expression "inflict Battle Damage to a monster" correct, or is Battle Damage only the damage players take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 I think it's old OCG, but still acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDKMRV Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Is the expression "inflict Battle Damage to a monster" correct' date=' or is Battle Damage only the damage players take?[/quote'] Battle Damage is from a battle consisting with a monster(s). Ex. Your attacking X-Head Cannon/1800 ATK V.S.Opponent's attack position Celtic Guardian/1400 ATK 1800-1400 = 400 If a monster attack is altered by an effect that would negate the attack and inflict damage instead, then it is know as Effect Damage. Ex. Your attacking X-Head Cannon/1800 ATK V.S.Opponent's attack position Celtic Guardian/1400 ATK Attack is negated by opponent's Magic Cylinder. You take 1800 direct effect damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 I have an idea for an OTK/FTK deck but I need an answer to one question. Is Bubble Illusion like Double Summon in the sense that if I activate 2 in the same turn I can still only activate one trap from my hand or is it the case where if I activate 2 Bubble Illusion in one turn that I can use two traps from my hand that turn? The wording of the card itself isn't totally clear on the issue and I can't find any rulings on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 I have an extremely complex question regarding Thunder King Rai-Oh and Stardust Dragon (I hope you prepared yourself) Ok, I have Stardust and Stardust/Assault in grave about to be resummoned during my end phaseOpponent has Rai-Oh - Intends to use it on /Assault I, as the turn player, have original Stardust return first/Assault FollowsChain Rai-Oh Can the original Stardust negate it? Basically, what my question boils to: is Rai-Oh Speed 2 or 3? My opponent argued this ruling"'Thunder King Rai-Oh's' second effect can be activated at the same timing as "Solemn Judgment", "Horn of Heaven", etc., to negate Special Summons that do not start a Chain.[1]" means it is Speed 3, since it can be activated when Solemn would be; to quote "Are you saying Stardust can negate a Solemn?" I argued this ruling"Thunder King Rai-Oh's" effect that negates the Special Summon of 1 of your opponent's monsters is a Quick Effect.[1] means he is Speed 2 and Stardust could have negated him, since are not all quick monsters Speed 2? so... Is Rai-Oh Speed 2 or 3? EDIT: Oh, and in case I'm right, I'll need a detailed explaination, the person is... tough to reason with...EDIT: Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 I have an idea for an OTK/FTK deck but I need an answer to one question. Is Bubble Illusion like Double Summon in the sense that if I activate 2 in the same turn I can still only activate one trap from my hand or is it the case where if I activate 2 Bubble Illusion in one turn that I can use two traps from my hand that turn? The wording of the card itself isn't totally clear on the issue and I can't find any rulings on it. The card grants the user an ability: "During this turn' date=' you can activate 1 trap card from your hand". In order for you to activate 2 trap cards from your hand, you would need a card whose effect allowed 2 or more per turn. Bubble Illusion only permits one. No many how many you activate in a turn, you can only activate 1 Trap card from your hand during that turn through the effects of Bubble Illusion. Activating more shouldn't grant you more uses. I've never tried the card myself, but based on its wording, it shouldn't allow for more even if you activate more than one. I have an extremely complex question regarding Thunder King Rai-Oh and Stardust Dragon (I hope you prepared yourself) Ok, I have Stardust and Stardust/Assault in grave about to be resummoned during my end phaseOpponent has Rai-Oh - Intends to use it on /Assault I, as the turn player, have original Stardust return first/Assault FollowsChain Rai-Oh Can the original Stardust negate it? Basically, what my question boils to: is Rai-Oh Speed 2 or 3? My opponent argued this ruling"'Thunder King Rai-Oh's' second effect can be activated at the same timing as "Solemn Judgment", "Horn of Heaven", etc., to negate Special Summons that do not start a Chain.[1]" means it is Speed 3, since it can be activated when Solemn would be; to quote "Are you saying Stardust can negate a Solemn?" I argued this ruling"Thunder King Rai-Oh's" effect that negates the Special Summon of 1 of your opponent's monsters is a Quick Effect.[1] means he is Speed 2 and Stardust could have negated him, since are not all quick monsters Speed 2? so... Is Rai-Oh Speed 2 or 3? EDIT: Oh, and in case I'm right, I'll need a detailed explaination, the person is... tough to reason with...EDIT: Thank you All Quick Effects are Speed Spell 2, no matter what. Counter Traps are the only Speed Spell 3 cards. The rulings which state "'Thunder King Rai-Oh's' second effect can be activated at the same timing as "Solemn Judgment", "Horn of Heaven", etc., to negate Special Summons that do not start a Chain.[1]" refers to WHEN you can use the effect (a timing issue), not how fast it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 I knew I was right, but it does pose the follow-up: was I allowed to chose which Stardust varriant returns first and (like in a situation here) abuse it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 There's a bigger problem Expel./Assault and Stardust start a chain when Summoned, Rai-Oh cannot negate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 I have an extremely complex question regarding Thunder King Rai-Oh and Stardust Dragon (I hope you prepared yourself) Ok' date=' I have Stardust and Stardust/Assault in grave about to be resummoned during my end phaseOpponent has Rai-Oh - Intends to use it on /Assault I, as the turn player, have original Stardust return first/Assault FollowsChain Rai-Oh Can the original Stardust negate it? Basically, what my question boils to: is Rai-Oh Speed 2 or 3? My opponent argued this ruling[b']"'Thunder King Rai-Oh's' second effect can be activated at the same timing as "Solemn Judgment", "Horn of Heaven", etc., to negate Special Summons that do not start a Chain.[1]"[/b] means it is Speed 3, since it can be activated when Solemn would be; to quote "Are you saying Stardust can negate a Solemn?" I argued this ruling"Thunder King Rai-Oh's" effect that negates the Special Summon of 1 of your opponent's monsters is a Quick Effect.[1] means he is Speed 2 and Stardust could have negated him, since are not all quick monsters Speed 2? so... Is Rai-Oh Speed 2 or 3? EDIT: Oh, and in case I'm right, I'll need a detailed explaination, the person is... tough to reason with...EDIT: Thank you Moot question. TKRO can't negate a stardust coming back for the same reaon solemn can't negate gorz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 WAIT WHAT???? Are you saying you can't Solemn a Stardust reviving? Expain pl0x This makes my deck even more deadly if true. Can you also not Divine Wrath it when it returns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 You can Wrath, but not Solemn, Black Horn or Rai-Oh. When SDD(/AM) returns to the field, it's because of a monster effect. Solemn, Black Horn and Rai-Oh cannot negate Summons -as a result of an effect-. That means Rai-Oh and Black Horn also can't negate things like Rekindling. The only Summons they can negate are ones that just have conditions and never 'activate' like Faultroll, Judgment Dragon, Dark Armed, Cydra, ect. It never says "activate the effect to Summon this card" like SDD(/AM) does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Hmm... good to know, thank you YCM Oh, one more question: If a card can destroy up to two cards, and they declare two targets, can Starlight be chained? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Hmm... good to know' date=' thank you YCM Oh, one more question: If a card can destroy up to two cards, and they declare two targets, can Starlight be chained?[/quote'] Yes, as long as you can determine at activation that it will destroy 2 cards you control, then its fine. Examples you were probably asking about were the Monarchs. Both Mobius and Kuraz for example target up to 2 cards and destroys them. They both target, so they must choose their targets at activation. If they only choose to target one of your cards, then you cannot activate Starlight Road. If they target two of your cards, then you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Precisely, thank you again oh wise sage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Flame Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Lolwikiasaid:You can select a Monster Token with "Cyber Valley's" second effect. When the effect resolves, it is removed from the field and "Cyber Valley" is removed from play.[1]Another ruling source (Netrep.net) said nothing about this...Is it true that you can do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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