Canuck Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Could someone help clarify "Cyber Kirin's" effect? - Tribute it on the Field?- Tribute it from your Hand?- During whose turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboss144 Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Could someone help clarify "Cyber Kirin's" effect? - Tribute it on the Field?- Tribute it from your Hand?- During whose turn? It can only be activated on your turn, and it must be tributed from the field. (there is no such thing as tributing from the hand) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Do multiple Infernity Archfiend's work when Special Summoned together while you have no cards in your hand?Say through the effect of Mirage. Or can only you get one search and the cancels as you have a card in your hand? "If you have no cards in your hand" is a condition for the effect' date=' not the card's activation. The Activation Trigger/Condition is "When this card is Special Summoned". If an effect of a card is chained to Infernity Archfiend that causes you to have more than 0 cards in your hand, then when Infernity Archfiend resolves, the effect fails since you have a card in your hand. If it said something like "When this card is Special Summoned while you have no cards in your hand", then it would work in your favor, but written this way, "If you have no cards in your hand" is the condition for searching your deck, not for activating Infernity Archfiend. (Note: Even though its not a condition for activation, You still cannot activate Infernity Archfiend if you had a card in your hand, but this would be for another reason).[/quote'] Ah, would be good if that did work and the effect stacked allowing you to get 2 searches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonzord Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 (there is no such thing as tributing from the hand) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 (there is no such thing as tributing from the hand) that's a ritual summon, which has it's own set of rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 (there is no such thing as tributing from the hand) that's a ritual summon' date=' which has it's own set of rules.[/quote'] I'm sure he's just trying to prove the point that "Tributing from the Hand" exists in Yugioh, nothing more outside than that, even though it is just a special occurrence where a card specifically states to do that :< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDKMRV Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Does Black Whirlwind still resolve if Future Visions is on the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Yes, turn player decides which effects resolve in what order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDKMRV Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Yes' date=' turn player decides which effects resolve in what order.[/quote'] Really? So even if the monster is removed, Black Whirlwind still resolves if turn player chooses it to?And does that also apply to Bottomless Traphole as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
賢狼ホロ Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Basic (stupid?) question!1800 ATK monster attacks 1800 DEF monster in Defence Position. Is it destroyed? >_> Also, I was in argument the other day. Can you activate Set Spell Cards on the turn they were Set? I think I have heard that you cannot activate (Quick-Play) Spell Cards on the turn you Set them, but I am unsure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDKMRV Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Basic (stupid?) question!1800 ATK monster attacks 1800 DEF monster in Defence Position. Is it destroyed? >_> Also' date=' I was in argument the other day. Can you activate Set Spell Cards on the turn they were Set? I think I have heard that you cannot activate (Quick-Play) Spell Cards on the turn you Set them, but I am unsure.[/quote'] If a monster with 1800 ATK attacks a monster in defense position with 1800 DEF, then the defense position monster is not destroyed. You cannot activate Quick Play Spell Cards the turn they are set. Other Spell cards, you can.Does Volcanic Counter's effect stack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Yes' date=' turn player decides which effects resolve in what order.[/quote'] The Mandatory Effect of Future Fusions would activate first before you can choose to activate the optional Trigger effect of Black Whirlwind. You will be able to chain Black Whirlwind to Future Fusions since the activation timing is still correct (The Normal Summon of a monster). Chain 1 - Future FusionsChain 2 - Black Whirlwind. In this case, Black Whirlwind resolves successfully, then Future Fusions removes the monster that was Normal Summoned. Really? So even if the monster is removed' date=' Black Whirlwind still resolves if turn player chooses it to?And does that also apply to Bottomless Traphole as well?[/quote'] If the Blackwing Monster is removed, the game is no longer able to determine the ATK of the monster that was Normal Summoned. Either way, as listed above in the Future Fusion example, Black Whirlwind would resolve first. When it comes to Bottomless Trap Hole, Black Whirlwind effect is an optional trigger, as a Trigger effect, it must come first in the chain, therefore the Chain would be: Chain 1) Black WhirlwindChain 2) Bottomless Trap Hole In this case, the Blackwing monster would be removed, and Black Whirlwind would fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDKMRV Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Oh alright thanks.Oh and does Volcanic Counter's effect stack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Oh and does Volcanic Counter's effect stack? I don't know what you mean by "stack", but if you have multiple Volcanic Counters in your Graveyard, they will all activate at the same time if you take Battle Damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDKMRV Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Oh and does Volcanic Counter's effect stack? I don't know what you mean by "stack"' date=' but if you have multiple Volcanic Counters in your Graveyard, they will all activate at the same time if you take Battle Damage.[/quote'] Stack meaning if multiple Volcanic Counters are in the grave, does the damage add up?Oh and does Volcanic Counter's effect stack? I don't know what you mean by "stack"' date=' but if you have multiple Volcanic Counters in your Graveyard, they will all activate at the same time if you take Battle Damage.[/quote'] Stack meaning if multiple Volcanic Counters are in the grave, does the damage add up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Stack meaning if multiple Volcanic Counters are in the grave' date=' does the damage add up?[/quote'] Yes, they will all activate in response to the Battle Damage, and all of them will inflict damage to your opponent equal to the Battle Damage (as long as there's another FIRE monster in your Graveyard). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDKMRV Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 If your opponent summons Fortune Lady Light while Future Visions is on the field and you play Book of Moon, then does its effect activate? If you summon a Blackwing Monster while controlling Black Whirlwind, but you play Torriental Tribute/Book of Moon, does Black Whirlwind still resolve?(I asked this question in relation to Bottomless Traphole, but I don't know if it applies as well.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 If your opponent summons Fortune Lady Light while Future Visions is on the field and you play Book of Moon' date=' then does its effect activate? If you summon a Blackwing Monster while controlling Black Whirlwind, but you play Torriental Tribute/Book of Moon, does Black Whirlwind still resolve?(I asked this question in relation to Bottomless Traphole, but I don't know if it applies as well.)[/quote'] The monster doesnt get removed i believe, so therefore light's effect doesnt get activated. I could be wrong As for the BWW, seeing as the monster was destroyed, there is no ATK value to go by for the search, thus the search doesnt happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 If your opponent summons Fortune Lady Light while Future Visions is on the field and you play Book of Moon' date=' then does its effect activate?[/quote'] 1) The chain would be: Chain 1) Future Visions targeting Fortune Lady LightChain 2) Book of Moon targeting Fortune Lady Light Resolving... Chain 2) Book of Moon flips Fortune Lady Light to face-down Defense Position.Chain 1) Fortune Lady Light is removed from play by Future Visions. (Being Face-up is not a requirement for the target to stay valid, just as long as the monster is still on the field) Fortune Lady Light's effect DOES NOT activate if it was removed from the field by a card effect while Face-down (according to rulings), therefore you will not get to activate Lighty's effect to Special Summon a Fortune Lady monster. If you summon a Blackwing Monster while controlling Black Whirlwind' date=' but you play Torriental Tribute/Book of Moon, does Black Whirlwind still resolve?(I asked this question in relation to Bottomless Traphole, but I don't know if it applies as well.)[/quote'] Same rulings apply. Black Whirlwind being the trigger effect will have to be activated first before any non-trigger effects can activate, so in both cases it would be: Chain 1) Black WhirlwindChain 2) Torrential Tribute/Book of Moon Resolving... Chain 2) Torrential Tribute destroys all monsters on the field, including the Summoned Blackwing Monster / The Blackwing Monster is flipped to face-down Defense PositionChain 1) In both cases, the Summoned Blackwing monster's ATK is unknown, and therefore, Black Whirlwind fails to resolve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDKMRV Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Alrighty. Many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzuku Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Does Skill Drain negate Koaki Meirus Revealing effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 No, those are maintenance costs, like Archfiends paying LP, and not effects. Skill Drain doesn't affect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 If somebody activates Rekindling into a Dawg and a Magician, can I Bottomless?If so, what does it do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 If somebody activates Rekindling into a Dawg and a Magician' date=' can I Bottomless?If so, what does it do?[/quote'] Dawggggg You can Bottomless Trap Hole, and only the monsters that were Special Summoned with 1500 ATK or more would be destroyed and removed from play. In this case, Dog is removed, and Magician stays on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I assume the same is the case if you summon Airbellum and Ryko with Rescue Cat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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