Yu-Gi-Oh! Rulings Questions

[BDKMRV]

Yes.

 

Really?

Because I dueled some guy yesterday and he attacked my SDDAM and activated Shrink at the damage step. He argued that shrink becomes Lv3 speed spell. Is that true?

 

No' date=' only Counter Traps are ever Spell Speed 3 -.- Most things can't activate in the damage step.

 

Things that can:

Things that change ATK/DEF

Counter Traps

Monster Effects that negate things.

Things Konami says work in the damage step.

Mandatory effects.

 

Ok, but what I want to know is if Shrink is activated at the Damage Step, does it become Speed Spell 3 or does it stay Speed Spell 2?

 

Please read the post you respond to.

 

lol alright.

So I'm guessing the bolded states that spell speed lvs cannot change?

[賢狼ホロ]

As it is forbidden to use Japanese cards in European contests, how about e.g. German cards?

[werewolfjedi]

As it is forbidden to use Japanese cards in European contests' date=' how about e.g. German cards?

[/quote']

 

it is generaly not allowed.

[Sephiroth_The_Legend]

As it is forbidden to use Japanese cards in European contests' date=' how about e.g. German cards?

[/quote']

 

it is generaly not allowed.

 

Not usually, certain tournaments are cool with it (my locals are fine with it :D) but generally they're frowned upon.

 

In Traditional.

I activated Crush Card Virus the turn before.

My opponent draw Dark Magician of Chaos while he has Destiny Hero - Dasher in the Graveyard, does Crush destroy DMOC before it can be summoned with Dasher? or is it the other way round.

[werewolfjedi]

As it is forbidden to use Japanese cards in European contests' date=' how about e.g. German cards?

[/quote']

 

it is generaly not allowed.

 

Not usually, certain tournaments are cool with it (my locals are fine with it :D) but generally they're frowned upon.

 

In Traditional.

I activated Crush Card Virus the turn before.

My opponent draw Dark Magician of Chaos while he has Destiny Hero - Dasher in the Graveyard, does Crush destroy DMOC before it can be summoned with Dasher? or is it the other way round.

 

O.O, -.- >.<.

 

I don't know this one. damn.

 

I think it gets killed off by the crush effect since it's mandatory, while dasher's effect is opitional, but they might chain, but I don't know.

[ExtremeG]

hey, if you equip "Armor Breaker" to "Amazoness Swordwoman" and you attack a monster with her that has an ATK higher than her, both destroying her and inflicting damage by her effect, can you still get "Armor Breaker" ability and destroy a card?

[darkwolf777]

In Traditional.

I activated Crush Card Virus the turn before.

My opponent draw Dark Magician of Chaos while he has Destiny Hero - Dasher in the Graveyard' date=' does Crush destroy DMOC before it can be summoned with Dasher? or is it the other way round.

[/quote']

 

Crush Card Virus would take effect before the person even gets the opportunity to use Dasher's effect. As soon as he draws the card, Crush Card Virus checks it immediately before any other such optional effect can activate. It should also supersede any mandatory effects currently on the field that would trigger to a card being drawn. If there were two lingering effects which trigger at the same time, i figure order is handed in the normal "turn player's effect are chosen before opponent's effects" fashion.

 

hey' date=' if you equip "Armor Breaker" to "Amazoness Swordwoman" and you attack a monster with her that has an ATK higher than her, both destroying her and inflicting damage by her effect, can you still get "Armor Breaker" ability and destroy a card?

[/quote']

 

The timing of the effect would be directly after Damage Calculation, before the monsters that were destroyed by battle are sent from the Field to the Graveyard.

 

The problem that lies here is "When does Armor Breaker's effect that states 'If the equipped monster would be destroyed by battle, this card is destroyed instead.' come into play. Monsters are considered destroyed during Damage Calculation. The second problem is the "While equipped to a monster by this effect..." condition (this is the main issue here).

 

I tested this (i looked into it much further than i should have, I thought Armor Breaker's effect to sacrifice itself was optional but it is Mandatory). Because Armor Breaker destroys itself to save Amazoness Swordswoman during Damage Calculation, it no longer has its effect due to not being equipped to Amazoness Swordswoman anymore and you will NOT destroy a card with Armor Breaker's effect.

[Sephiroth_The_Legend]

In Traditional.

I activated Crush Card Virus the turn before.

My opponent draw Dark Magician of Chaos while he has Destiny Hero - Dasher in the Graveyard' date=' does Crush destroy DMOC before it can be summoned with Dasher? or is it the other way round.

[/quote']

 

Crush Card Virus would take effect before the person even gets the opportunity to use Dasher's effect. As soon as he draws the card, Crush Card Virus checks it immediately before any other such optional effect can activate. It should also supersede any mandatory effects currently on the field that would trigger to a card being drawn. If there were two lingering effects which trigger at the same time, i figure order is handed in the normal "turn player's effect are chosen before opponent's effects" fashion.

 

hey' date=' if you equip "Armor Breaker" to "Amazoness Swordwoman" and you attack a monster with her that has an ATK higher than her, both destroying her and inflicting damage by her effect, can you still get "Armor Breaker" ability and destroy a card?

[/quote']

 

The timing of the effect would be directly after Damage Calculation, before the monsters that were destroyed by battle are sent from the Field to the Graveyard.

 

The problem that lies here is "When does Armor Breaker's effect that states 'If the equipped monster would be destroyed by battle, this card is destroyed instead.' come into play. Monsters are considered destroyed during Damage Calculation. The second problem is the "While equipped to a monster by this effect..." condition (this is the main issue here).

 

I tested this (i looked into it much further than i should have, I thought Armor Breaker's effect to sacrifice itself was optional but it is Mandatory). Because Armor Breaker destroys itself to save Amazoness Swordswoman during Damage Calculation, it no longer has its effect due to not being equipped to Amazoness Swordswoman anymore and you will NOT destroy a card with Armor Breaker's effect.

 

Ah, thanks for clearing that up.

[.Nu-13]

As it is forbidden to use Japanese cards in European contests' date=' how about e.g. German cards?

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Depends. Some tourneys allow cards in othe languages than english, but if so, you must bring translations of effects. Check your tournaments rules for more info. Also, you can't use japanese cards that are not released in TCG, so for example if tourney allow japanese cards, you can use japanese Archlord Kristya, but you can't, for example, Dragonic Tactics.

[-Griffin]

In Traditional.

I activated Crush Card Virus the turn before.

My opponent draw Dark Magician of Chaos while he has Destiny Hero - Dasher in the Graveyard' date=' does Crush destroy DMOC before it can be summoned with Dasher? or is it the other way round.

[/quote']

 

Crush Card Virus would take effect before the person even gets the opportunity to use Dasher's effect. As soon as he draws the card, Crush Card Virus checks it immediately before any other such optional effect can activate. It should also supersede any mandatory effects currently on the field that would trigger to a card being drawn. If there were two lingering effects which trigger at the same time, i figure order is handed in the normal "turn player's effect are chosen before opponent's effects" fashion.

 

hey' date=' if you equip "Armor Breaker" to "Amazoness Swordwoman" and you attack a monster with her that has an ATK higher than her, both destroying her and inflicting damage by her effect, can you still get "Armor Breaker" ability and destroy a card?

[/quote']

 

The timing of the effect would be directly after Damage Calculation, before the monsters that were destroyed by battle are sent from the Field to the Graveyard.

 

The problem that lies here is "When does Armor Breaker's effect that states 'If the equipped monster would be destroyed by battle, this card is destroyed instead.' come into play. Monsters are considered destroyed during Damage Calculation. The second problem is the "While equipped to a monster by this effect..." condition (this is the main issue here).

 

I tested this (i looked into it much further than i should have, I thought Armor Breaker's effect to sacrifice itself was optional but it is Mandatory). Because Armor Breaker destroys itself to save Amazoness Swordswoman during Damage Calculation, it no longer has its effect due to not being equipped to Amazoness Swordswoman anymore and you will NOT destroy a card with Armor Breaker's effect.

 

Ah, thanks for clearing that up.

 

And if she's equipped with Mist Body/ect?

[darkwolf777]

hey' date=' if you equip "Armor Breaker" to "Amazoness Swordwoman" and you attack a monster with her that has an ATK higher than her, both destroying her and inflicting damage by her effect, can you still get "Armor Breaker" ability and destroy a card?

[/quote']

 

The timing of the effect would be directly after Damage Calculation, before the monsters that were destroyed by battle are sent from the Field to the Graveyard.

 

The problem that lies here is "When does Armor Breaker's effect that states 'If the equipped monster would be destroyed by battle, this card is destroyed instead.' come into play. Monsters are considered destroyed during Damage Calculation. The second problem is the "While equipped to a monster by this effect..." condition (this is the main issue here).

 

I tested this (i looked into it much further than i should have, I thought Armor Breaker's effect to sacrifice itself was optional but it is Mandatory). Because Armor Breaker destroys itself to save Amazoness Swordswoman during Damage Calculation, it no longer has its effect due to not being equipped to Amazoness Swordswoman anymore and you will NOT destroy a card with Armor Breaker's effect.

 

Ah, thanks for clearing that up.

 

And if she's equipped with Mist Body/ect?

 

Amazoness Swordswoman's effect that forces your opponent to take the Battle Damage you would've taken is still considered Battle Damage, not Effect Damage. If Amazoness Swordswoman battles and would not be destroyed due to another effect such as Mist Body, Waboku, etc, then Armor Breaker would not sacrifice itself, will still be equipped to Amazoness Swordswoman after Damage Calculation and can successfully activate its effect.

[-Griffin]

So the effect damage is considered dealt by Swordswoman and not the opponent's monster? You sure?

[-Doodle]

I have a question about DMG or DMU:[if thats not the place so sorry :( ]

I downloaded the "Byond" thingy and i siged up for that website..but i really dont know what to do next, and\or how to play with it Yugioh[i read some guides and searched for the game but still didnt find anything]so..can anyone help please?

[werewolfjedi]

I have a question about DMG or DMU:[if thats not the place so sorry :( ]

I downloaded the "Byond" thingy and i siged up for that website..but i really dont know what to do next' date=' and\or how to play with it Yugioh[i read some guides and searched for the game but still didnt find anything']so..can anyone help please?

 

http://www.gamerscripts.com/dmg/index.php?sid=5d6388fe3b5b82865e64819e99a54078

[darkwolf777]

So the effect damage is considered dealt by Swordswoman and not the opponent's monster? You sure?

 

You bring up a good point, but yes, the Battle Damage dealt to the opponent through this effect is Battle Damage Amazoness Swordswoman is inflicting to the opponent, not damage your opponent is inflicting on itself. This is still not Effect Damage, it is Battle Damage. The game calculates the difference, but the opponent is the one to take the damage regardless, so the game considers this as Amazoness Swordswoman inflicting Battle Damage to the Opponent.

[Zauls]

I may sound like a noob here, but does Kycoo stop D-Fissure/Macro Cosmos?

[-Griffin]

No.

[Zauls]

Lol Didn't think so... Just trying to think of anti-Macro cards that still let me remove cards from grave...

[-Griffin]

MST. Dust. Fairy Wind. Heavy. DD Survivor (for lulz)

[Canuck]

Have a Question.

 

Spellbinding Circle's effect says:

 

"If the selected monster is offered as a Tribute, this card is not destroyed."

 

 

What exactly does that mean? Probably a stupid question but I want to make sure..

[Sephiroth_The_Legend]

its not destroyed, thus it stays face-up on the field and doesnt leave even though it isnt equipped to anything.

so it interupts Treeborn Frog and Gorz.

[Chaos Flame]

I have a quick question, in wc10, I had my machine monster attack a light monster, they used honest, and it would'nt let me chain limiter removal... could some one please explain this?

[Sephiroth_The_Legend]

Honest activates in Damage Step.

Limiter activates before the Damage Step.

 

Limiter can't activate when Honest does.

and even if you did chain limiter, they would still win.

[Chaos Flame]

Honest activates in Damage Step.

Limiter activates before the Damage Step.

 

Limiter can't activate when Honest does.

and even if you did chain limiter' date=' they would still win.

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Ah, I think I understand now, thank you.

Another question, could some please explain to me how a flamvell cat deck works, I don't relly see how rescue cat works so well in flamvell...

[Sephiroth_The_Legend]

Just to gain epic advantage in 1 turn through a series of +1's.

 

Thats usually how the build works.