-Griffin Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 You cannot use Blaze Accelerator and attack in the same turn, the card says that clearly. You attack. Because you cannot do both in the same turn, you cannot use Blaze Accelerator. It's a matter of reading the card.Does it say, "You cannot attack during the turn you use this."Or, "You cannot attack this turn after you use this." It's the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Analysis of your problem: I attack. Now I use Blaze Accelerator. I declared an attack the same turn I used it. DOH I use it. Now I attack. I declared an attack the same turn I used it. DOH make sense? That makes sense.However' date=' the card doesn't specifically state that.[/quote'] Actually, it does. If I attack, then using Blaze Accelerator would cause a Paradox, which is illegal Where exactly does it specifically state that within the text? I would laugh if the card text would state "Activating this card during your Main Phase 2 after you attacked would cause a paradox." Either way, that's how it works. I'm still looking for a card example from you where it states "vice versa" and allows you to do it both before or after. Curse of Fiend says vice versa but its not the same kind of effect. That was made before they figured out you can just say "change battle position" instead of all that text. Still, you cannot activate Blaze Accelerator if you attacked during that turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Lovegood Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Not within the text, but you would have attacked on the turn you used it, which you cannot do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDKMRV Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Not within the text' date=' but you would have attacked on the turn you used it, which you cannot do.[/quote'] I see. So even if it doesn't state a "Vice-Versa" rule, you cannot activate it if you have declared an attack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Not within the text' date=' but you would have attacked on the turn you used it, which you cannot do.[/quote'] I see. So even if it doesn't state a "Vice-Versa" rule, you cannot activate it if you have declared an attack? Again, what do you mean by "vice-versa" rule. Start stating some examples. You've been using it to try to prove your point but show no examples x.o What are you talking about? If you mean someone actually using the term "vice-versa" under the card rulings, over time, things like that do not need to be explained which would be why there's no ruling clearly listed there.. There are many cards that say "if you activate this, then you cannot do this". If it ever comes up as "if you activate A, then you cannot do B", then it works for the opposite to where "if you do B, then you cannot activate A". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 You cannot use Blaze Accelerator and attack in the same turn' date=' the card says that clearly. You attack. Because you cannot do both in the same turn, you cannot use Blaze Accelerator. It's a matter of reading the card.Does it say, "You cannot attack [b']during the turn[/b] you use this."Or, "You cannot attack this turn after you use this." It's the first. Replying to this because IMO, it explains it most clearly and there's still confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 if a card states "you can't do X if you use this effect" you can't do X at any time during that turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Question: What is Priority? I read the Wiki and still have no idea. Does it say, for example, if I summon Stardust Dragon, I have a right to use Assault Mode Activate before the opponent can chain Bottomless Trap Hole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Priority is the time to activate an Ignition Effect.i.e When you Summon Lyla, you have Priority to use its effect to destroy 1 Spell or Trap. Also, you can't Bottomless Stardust..... you'll just negate it....Assault Mode Activate has nothing to do with it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Question: What is Priority? I read the Wiki and still have no idea. Does it say' date=' for example, if I summon Stardust Dragon, I have a right to use Assault Mode Activate before the opponent can chain Bottomless Trap Hole?[/quote'] correct, though in that case, stardust could just negate bottomless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Priority refers to Ignition Effects. darkwolf will explain it better, i'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 I could negate it all this time! (I can just chain AMA End Phase anyway, right?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 yeah, there's no worries with that one. and you didnt know that Stardust could negate BTH?thats bad.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Explaining Priority:At all times during a turn that a card can be activated but cards with chain links aren't activating, if both players want to use something, the turn player gets to.Example:I draw a card. Both players want to activate something and there's currently no chain. It's my turn, I get to use my Mystical Space Typhoon before my opponent can use Trap Dustshoot, saving my hand.Example:I Summon Brio. Both players want to activate something and there's currently no chain. It's my turn, I get to use my Brio to bounce their Stardust, my opponent then chains Bottomless. If my opponent got to use Bottomless first, I couldn't use Brio's effect until the chain finished (and I'd lost it) because it's Spell Speed 1.Example:My Blue-Eyes attacks my opponent's attack-position Future Samurai. I know my opponent still has the Honest they added to their hand earlier with Sangan, but I have one too. At the last chance to activate Honest, my opponent wants to use it, if I use mine afterwards, I get the ATK boost, then Future Samurai gets my ATK and my ATK boost, too. Instead, I can claim priority and use my Honest first, so if my opponent uses it, it will be wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 I've never been the best at explaining things, but i'll give it a go~ The video games are pretty automated and no words are ever spoken so it might be harder to notice, but as Priority goes, You (the turn player) have the right to activate a card in response to something that's happened or is happening first before your opponent can. Before your opponent can activate their own cards, that have to wait for you (the turn player) to respond to what has happened/is happening with your own card OR the turn player would have to let the opponent know that they will not activate a card, giving the opponent permission to activate their own. Now, a common example where players will bring up the term of "Priority" comes into play are with Ignition Effects of monsters. Let's take Exiled Force for example and say your opponent has a Face-Down Trap Hole on the field. Say you successfully Normal Summoned Exiled Force from your hand. The next thing now is to decide if there are any effects that we can activate in response to the Normal Summon of your Exiled Force. As turn player, you have the option of activating an effect first, before your opponent can. While Trap Hole can be activated by your opponent to destroy your Exiled Force, your opponent cannot activate it until you verbally let your opponent know you aren't going to activate any cards in response to the Successful Summon. In this example, the turn player has the option of activating Exiled Force's (or another card you have) effect in response to its own successful summon, before your opponent can activate Trap Hole. In this case, Exiled Force is tributed off and your opponent can no longer activate Trap Hole as Exiled Force is no longer on the field. Exiled Force's effect is successful and can destroy a monster. After Exiled Force destroys a monster, Priority occurs again. In response to "A monster has been destroyed", the turn player can choose to activate any cards in response to "a monster being destroyed" first, before your opponent can, etc, etc. The other half of the Example is that if you pass priority and state that you will not activate a card in response to Exiled Force being successfully summoned, then your opponent can activate Trap Hole to destroy Exiled Force. Another Example where "Priority" shows its importance is during the Damage Step. Once the Damage Step occurs, as turn player, you get to choose to activate any ATK/DEF boosting cards for example before your opponent can activate theirs. Your opponent cannot activate their cards until you activate yours first (because you have priority to go first), or if you choose not to activate anything and pass your priority to them. Anyway, that's my long winded explanation. I don't know how verbal actual Yugioh is as I don't play the real TCG, only the video games, but in a case like this, you must let your opponent know if you're going to activate a card in response to something that's happened or is happening, or if you aren't so that they will be allowed to. Hopefully I didn't confuse you with this very long explanation. In any case, I only listed some common examples of where Priority comes up in discussion the most, but understand it occurs for every action throughout the turn. tl;dr: If something happens, the Turn Player gets to choose to do something about it first, and if they choose not to, you must tell your opponent so that they can get permission to activate something themselves to what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 told ya he could explain it best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Can you summon DAD in the battle phase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Can you summon DAD in the battle phase? No' date=' you cannot. Only during your Main Phases. Question: What is Priority? I read the Wiki and still have no idea. Does it say' date=' for example, if I summon Stardust Dragon, I have a right to use Assault Mode Activate before the opponent can chain Bottomless Trap Hole?[/quote'] correct, though in that case, stardust could just negate bottomless. Well, you COULD call Priority, but then they wouldn't waste their Bottomless Trap Hole (since for AMA, the cost is to tribute that monster, there's no monster for them to use Bottomless Trap Hole anymore)... if you suspect them of having Bottomless Trap Hole though or something that'll destroy it on the field, you could wait and pass priority, allow them to activate something in response to Stardust Dragon being summoned that could remove it, then chain AMA to that card's activation to waste their card while getting your Assault Mode monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 Now I've found a place where booster boxes are sold cheaper than from where I originally was about to buy one, but the only ones left are 1 box of The Duelist Genesis and 1 box of Stardust Overdrive. I already have most commons of TDGS, but I lack all the synchros. From SOVR I have nothing rarer than a Rare. What can I do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 the chance to pull the only decent thing is SOVR (Dark Simmy) is fair hard..you've got a better chance with TDGS...Stardust and Goyo are too good to pass up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 when i tribute EBI Assla Piscu for Nightmare Archfiend, do Aslla's effects activates, or it misses timing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 when i tribute EBI Assla Piscu for Nightmare Archfiend' date=' do Aslla's effects activates, or it misses timing?[/quote'] There is no "can" in Earthbound Immortal Assla Piscu's effect, so it is a mandatory effect and is not capable of missing the timing. It'll activate after the current chain finishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Now I've found a place where booster boxes are sold cheaper than from where I originally was about to buy one' date=' but the only ones left are 1 box of The Duelist Genesis and 1 box of Stardust Overdrive. I already have most commons of TDGS, but I lack all the synchros. From SOVR I have nothing rarer than a Rare. What can I do?[/quote'] I want more opinions before doing this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 can someone explain the procedure of activating sucess probability 0%? do you have the right to look at your opponents extra deck if they have no fusion monsters?because obviously it says Fusion in the card effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 can someone explain the procedure of activating sucess probability 0%? do you have the right to look at your opponents extra deck if they have no fusion monsters?because obviously it says Fusion in the card effect Indeed, if they cannot supply the 2 Fusion Monsters, then you can look at their Extra Deck to confirm that. *Edit: Looking at the art, the picture of Kozaky looks like he's doing the *kira kira* pose xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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