darkwolf777 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Why do people consider Deck Destruction to be "Bad" these days? Cards tend to be more accessible in the graveyard (cards that let you return cards to the hand or special summon from the Graveyard for example). Many cards nowadays also have effects which activate while in the Graveyard (Necro Gardna, Plaguespreader Zombie, Destiny Hero - Dasher, etc). Also, milling your own deck allows the deck to be smaller, increasing the chance of drawing certain cards that are still remaining in the deck. Frankly, I use Ryko quite a bit in some decks, and the mill is usually a positive thing than a negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Why do people consider Deck Destruction to be "Bad" these days? Cards tend to be more accessible in the graveyard (cards that let you return cards to the hand or special summon from the Graveyard for example). Many cards nowadays also have effects which activate while in the Graveyard (Necro Gardna' date=' Plaguespreader Zombie, Destiny Hero - Dasher, etc). Also, milling your own deck allows the deck to be smaller, increasing the chance of drawing certain cards that are still remaining in the deck. Frankly, I use Ryko quite a bit in some decks, and the mill is usually a positive thing than a negative.[/quote'] however, self mill still has the inherent randomness, that can kill you for playing cards like lyla, and then watch mirror force, T.T., and heavy storm go to the grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professional Duelist Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 Why do people consider Deck Destruction to be "Bad" these days? Cards tend to be more accessible in the graveyard (cards that let you return cards to the hand or special summon from the Graveyard for example). Many cards nowadays also have effects which activate while in the Graveyard (Necro Gardna' date=' Plaguespreader Zombie, Destiny Hero - Dasher, etc). Also, milling your own deck allows the deck to be smaller, increasing the chance of drawing certain cards that are still remaining in the deck. Frankly, I use Ryko quite a bit in some decks, and the mill is usually a positive thing than a negative.[/quote'] however, self mill still has the inherent randomness, that can kill you for playing cards like lyla, and then watch mirror force, T.T., and heavy storm go to the grave. It doesn't kill you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Leo Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 Are Beast-Warriors searchable via RotA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 No... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 Are Beast-Warriors searchable via RotA? Beast-Warrior monsters are neither Warriors nor Beasts. Support cards for either will not work for Beast-Warriors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis2 Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 When Summoner Monk is normal summoned and switch to defense mode, can you really activate Royal Oppression to negate and destroy it at that time? Because that's how it is in WC 2009 and the Yugioh wikia doesn't mention Summoner Monk in the Royal Oppression ruling page. I'm just making sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 When Summoner Monk is normal summoned and switch to defense mode' date=' can you really activate Royal Oppression to negate and destroy it at that time? Because that's how it is in WC 2009 and the Yugioh wikia doesn't mention Summoner Monk in the Royal Oppression ruling page. I'm just making sure.[/quote'] On the yugioh wikia, Looking under the heading "Effects that Do Not Summon", it would be safe to say that in the OCG, if the effect you are activating is not capable of Special Summoning a monster, then you cannot negate it with Royal Oppression. In this case, no you would not be able to chain Royal Oppression to the effect of Summoner Monk that switches it to Defense Position. The video games (or maybe just 2009, haven't tried in 2010) do have the habit of allowing Royal Oppression to negate ANY effect of a card if one of its effects written on that card can Special Summon, even if its not using that effect. Whether this is how it worked at one time or how its supposed to work, or if its just bugged, i have no clue. I really don't like answering questions on Royal Oppression cause the answer is never a clear one as to which is right or wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Lovegood Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 I've seen WC10 around. What does it mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Yugioh World Championship 2010 - Reverse of Arcadia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Question: Is Super Mega Nimble Hamster in WC10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaco Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Would Skill Drain negate Grand mole's effect. I ask because I heard that Skill Drain can't negate effects that activate during the Damage Step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Question: Is Super Mega Nimble Hamster in WC10? Assuming my cheat unlocked all the cards' date=' no, the hamster is not in. I believe its TCG only right now, which may explain why its not in. Would Skill Drain negate Grand mole's effect. I ask because I heard that Skill Drain can't negate effects that activate during the Damage Step. Neo-Spacian Grand Mole's effect would be negated by Skill Drain. Skill Drain cannot be activated (from face-down to face-up) during the Damage Step, but if its already Face-up, then Skill Drain will work as long as it remains face-up at all times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 dammit...the deck im running could use hamster... but i spose ill make do.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Crush Card Virus destroys cards in the hand, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 During your Battle Phase, if your opponent controls a monster after this card's first attack, this card can attack once again. Negate the effect of any Trap Card that targets this card, and destroy that Trap Card. If this card is Special Summoned from the Graveyard by another card's effect, you must Tribute 1 Dragon-Type monster. Until what moment does my opponent has to control another monster? What will happen in each of these situations?1-I attack my creature swapped Newdoria, I destroy it, and it's effect activates and I destroy my opponent's only other monster. Can I attack again?2-I attack a Gellenduo or B.E.S. monster with no counters. The monster is not destroyed by battle, but it's destroyed after the battle. Can I attack again?3-I destroy a monster and attack again, I respond the attack declaration with Raigeki Break. I destroy my opponent's only other monster. Can the attack continue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Crush Card Virus destroys cards in the hand' date=' correct?[/quote'] Yes, they are considered "destroyed". During your Battle Phase' date='[b'] if your opponent controls a monster after this card's first attack, this card can attack once again[/b]. Negate the effect of any Trap Card that targets this card, and destroy that Trap Card. If this card is Special Summoned from the Graveyard by another card's effect, you must Tribute 1 Dragon-Type monster. Until what moment does my opponent has to control another monster? What will happen in each of these situations?1-I attack my creature swapped Newdoria, I destroy it, and it's effect activates and I destroy my opponent's only other monster. Can I attack again?2-I attack a Gellenduo or B.E.S. monster with no counters. The monster is not destroyed by battle, but it's destroyed after the battle. Can I attack again?3-I destroy a monster and attack again, I respond the attack declaration with Raigeki Break. I destroy my opponent's only other monster. Can the attack continue? For this card, i'm assuming the check of whether it can attack again or not occurs after the Damage Step, once everything regarding that battle has resolved, so... Edit: After testing, to be more precise, Tyrant Dragon's effect is continuous. The ability to attack again's condition must be active at all times. If something happens that remove the remaining monster from your opponent's field, then it cannot attack again. 1: Newdoria's effect would activate during the Damage Step and destroy the other monster he had on the field. Once the Damage Step ends, the check for another monster fails and it does not gain the extra attack. 2: Same as 1, if the monster is destroyed during the Damage Step (Gellenduo would be destroyed once Damage has been inflicted during the Damage Step, and B.E.S. monsters are also destroyed during the Damage Step if they do not have any counters to remove), so you would not gain the extra attack if that was their only monster left on the field. 3: Yes, because the requirements to attack again have already been met. It would form a replay then and you could then attack directly. After testing this in Tag Force 4, it does not create a replay and does not allow Tyrant Dragon to attack again even after declaring its extra attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Crush Card Virus destroys cards in the hand' date=' correct?[/quote'] Yes, they are considered "destroyed". During your Battle Phase' date='[b'] if your opponent controls a monster after this card's first attack, this card can attack once again[/b]. Negate the effect of any Trap Card that targets this card, and destroy that Trap Card. If this card is Special Summoned from the Graveyard by another card's effect, you must Tribute 1 Dragon-Type monster. Until what moment does my opponent has to control another monster? What will happen in each of these situations?1-I attack my creature swapped Newdoria, I destroy it, and it's effect activates and I destroy my opponent's only other monster. Can I attack again?2-I attack a Gellenduo or B.E.S. monster with no counters. The monster is not destroyed by battle, but it's destroyed after the battle. Can I attack again?3-I destroy a monster and attack again, I respond the attack declaration with Raigeki Break. I destroy my opponent's only other monster. Can the attack continue? For this card, i'm assuming the check of whether it can attack again or not occurs after the Damage Step, once everything regarding that battle has resolved, so... 1: Newdoria's effect would activate during the Damage Step and destroy the other monster he had on the field. Once the Damage Step ends, the check for another monster fails and it does not gain the extra attack. 2: Same as 1, if the monster is destroyed during the Damage Step (Gellenduo would be destroyed once Damage has been inflicted during the Damage Step, and B.E.S. monsters are also destroyed during the Damage Step if they do not have any counters to remove), so you would not gain the extra attack if that was their only monster left on the field. 3: Yes, because the requirements to attack again have already been met. It would form a replay then and you could then attack directly. And if I activate Raigeki Break before declaring the second attack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 And if I activate Raigeki Break before declaring the second attack? My guess then would be no. If the monster is not on the field before the next attack is declared then there's no longer a monster after that card's first attack, so I would guess it loses its chance then. *goes and tries it out x.o* Update: After trying it, I was correct in thinking this. If you do not declare the attack, and the monster is destroyed before it can, then it loses that attack opportunity. Update 2: After trying to both ways, It does not create a replay. If Raigeki Break is used after the attack declaration and destroys the last monster, Tyrant Dragon can no longer attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 If I attack and my opponent activates a trap card that responds to the attack (sakuretsu, etc), and I activate Mystic Wok or something else that removes the monster from the field, the effect of the trap dissapears, right? So, if the trap is Scrap Iron Scarecrow, is it set again after that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 If I attack and my opponent activates a trap card that responds to the attack (sakuretsu' date=' etc), and I activate Mystic Wok or something else that removes the monster from the field, the effect of the trap dissapears, right? So, if the trap is Scrap Iron Scarecrow, is it set again after that?[/quote'] I think it's like using D.D. Crow on Machina Force or Book of Moon in response to Widespread Dud. The remainder of the effect happens. It tries to negate a non-existant attack, but there isn't an attack to negate, so it skips that and sets itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 If I attack and my opponent activates a trap card that responds to the attack (sakuretsu' date=' etc), and I activate Mystic Wok or something else that removes the monster from the field, the effect of the trap dissapears, right? So, if the trap is Scrap Iron Scarecrow, is it set again after that?[/quote'] From the wikia: If the monster is destroyed by "Ring of Destruction", flipped face-down by "Book of Moon", or otherwise has its attack negated before "Scrap-Iron Scarecrow" can negate the attack, then "Scrap-Iron Scarecrow" is still Set.[2] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 it's really a love hate thing with effects like that, isn't it?I mean you try to be tool-boxy and clever, and while you save your monster/ stop part of the effect, the other parts still activate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Can Starlight Road be activated when Bottomless Trap/Lightning Vortex Hole only destroys 1 monster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 no.starlight can only be activated in response to a card that would destroy 2 or more cards you would control, not the assumption that it could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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