werewolfjedi Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Sangan timing~ well' date=' i guess its not a bad idea to call it that :D Usually when i'm trying to explain Mandatory and Optional effects, I always tend to use Sangan as the example of the mandatory effect xD Isn't it sad, Witch of the Black Forest? We've forgotten you :([/quote'] if only sanwitch was level 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krillin! Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Question? What's an advanced summon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Question? What's an advanced summon? According to yugioh wiki, it redirects to "Tribute Summon", but i've never heard anyone use "Advance Summon" anywhere before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krillin! Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Thanks AlsoIf you activate self destruct button, is there card you could play before and/or after it so only your opponent loses all of their life points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Question? What's an advanced summon? According to yugioh wiki' date=' it redirects to "Tribute Summon", but i've never heard anyone use "Advance Summon" anywhere before.[/quote'] That's how it's called in Japan now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Question? What's an advanced summon? According to yugioh wiki' date=' it redirects to "Tribute Summon", but i've never heard anyone use "Advance Summon" anywhere before.[/quote'] anime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krillin! Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 If I play self-destruct button, is there any card I can play before or after so that I don't lose all my LP but my opponent does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 If I play self-destruct button' date=' is there any card I can play before or after so that I don't lose all my LP but my opponent does?[/quote'] no, though it could be possible to use infernity zero in some weird, impossible to use, combo with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krillin! Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 How is it possible to use an impossible combo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 If I play self-destruct button' date=' is there any card I can play before or after so that I don't lose all my LP but my opponent does?[/quote'] no, though it could be possible to use infernity zero in some weird, impossible to use, combo with it. How is it possible to use an impossible combo? Impossible as in the chances of it ever occurring in incredibly low: A game where your opponent uses "Self-Destruct Button" (which no one really uses to WIN games anyway lol, unless you want to troll all your opponents by Drawing games xD) and having Infernity Zero in your hand. Infernity Zero pretty much breaks all standard rules of dueling themselves with its effect. Its the only card that can chain to your Life Points reaching 0 where any occurrence would immediately end the game. In my opinion, as long as Self-Destruct Button was the last thing to occur (so not to miss the timing of Infernity Zero as the game would otherwise end if you couldn't activate it due to a chain) you could use it to win the duel. How rare yet hilarious of an occurrence that would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Nope. As it resolves, both players LP is set to 0. It is not damage and your LP isn't reduced, it's just set to 0. Nothing prevents setting to 0 iirc. Infer 0 doesn't exist, yet >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krillin! Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Is there a card that can stop you from having your LP change for the whole turn? If so, could you play that before self-destruct button Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 End of Match Procedure is the only reason you should ever use Self-Destruct Button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krillin! Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 You DO know that doesn't answer my question right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 You DO know that doesn't answer my question right? It does, you just have to think a bit on your own. If EOMP is the only reason to use it, there must be no card that does what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 You DO know that doesn't answer my question right? There is no way you can currently use Self-Destruct Button yourself to give you anything more than a Draw game. There is no way to protect yourself from effects that set your Life Points to a particular value and there are no cards that can freeze your Life Points in place. With the inclusion of Infernity Zero, if it works as we are predicted, can save you against an opponent's Self-Destruct Button (as long as it wasn't chained to another effect). Again, as stated, its only use is to end the game in a Draw instead of losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 With the inclusion of Infernity Zero' date=' if it works as we are predicted, can save you against an opponent's Self-Destruct Button (as long as it wasn't chained to another effect).[/quote'] It's already been said that that doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L_Lawliet083 Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 how does dimensional eatos work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabapavich Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 with rekindling's effect that says the flamvells are removed from play at the end phase, if they are in the graveyard (due to synchroing or somethin') will they get removed from play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 With the inclusion of Infernity Zero' date=' if it works as we are predicted, can save you against an opponent's Self-Destruct Button (as long as it wasn't chained to another effect).[/quote'] It's already been said that that doesn't work. Nope. As it resolves' date=' both players LP is set to 0. It is not damage and your LP isn't reduced, it's just set to 0. Nothing prevents setting to 0 iirc. Infer 0 doesn't exist, yet >_>[/quote'] Well, I assumed he was answering the previous question that Inuyasha had, not the Infernity Zero stuff, but according to how the text is read as it currently is translated on the wiki, it currently states: "This card cannot be Special Summoned except by discarding all other cards in your hand when your Life Points become 0 by an opponent's card effect." It just says that the life points have to become 0. it doesn't state it has to be damage, it doesn't state the life points have to be "reduced", it just states any effect that brought your LP to 0. That's what i'm pointing out anyway as a possibility. Unless its worded differently, I don't why you couldn't use it after Self-Destruct Button. The only correct timing to play "Infernity Zero" is once your LP become 0 by a card effect your opponent controls, a time where the game would've ended otherwise. Either way, without much of an explanation, I don't see why it couldn't work. Simply saying no wouldnt convince me in this case, unless the translation on the wiki is incorrect. with rekindling's effect that says the flamvells are removed from play at the end phase' date=' if they are in the graveyard (due to synchroing or somethin') will they get removed from play?[/quote'] No, they are only removed from play if they remained on the field during the End Phase. If you synchroed them for example they will stay in the Graveyard at the end of the turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I was replying to the origional question, the last line was edited in later and does not relate directly to the first 2.I did not deny Infer. Zero could work, although your opponent has to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Can Divine Wrath counter Exodia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Can Divine Wrath counter Exodia. No. Exodia cannot be negated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Can Divine Wrath counter Exodia. nope.Can Divine Wrath counter Exodia. No. Exodia cannot be negated. except by infenity zero shananagins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Can Divine Wrath counter Exodia. No. Exodia cannot be negated. except by infenity zero shananagins. Exodia doesn't touch LP. Besides, Konami's rulings say nothing can negate it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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