Yu-Gi-Oh! Rulings Questions

[shadowferret]

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Handless_Fake

 

So, let's say I activate Handless Fake. If it's removed from the field before my next Standby Phase, I still get my hand back, right?

[burnpsy]

Magical Arm Shield takes Cyber Valley.

 

Who draws?

[gabapavich]

values on:

lyla

e-hero absolute zero

[darkwolf777]

Magical Arm Shield takes Cyber Valley.

 

Who draws?

 

No one. The attack hits Cyber Valley and is most likely destroyed by the battle due to its 0 ATK/DEF. The timing to activate Cyber Valley is incorrect since the attack was not declared on it' date=' but instead was declared on the first target, and shifted to Cyber Valley due to Magical Arm Shield.

 

If in case the above is wrong and you can activate the Cyber Valley you stole with Magical Arm Shield, then of course, you would get to draw 1 card and End the Battle Phase since its the Cyber Valley you control that's being attacked by the opponent's monster, but I can't really see it happening like this. My reason for this is that I believe there's only one possible chain that can occur when an attack is declared, and one possible chain during the damage step. The chain that occurred during this Battle declaration was "Magical Arm Shield". Once Magical Arm Shield is resolved, it should go straight to the Damage Step, after Cyber Valley could be activated x.o

 

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Handless_Fake

 

So, let's say I activate Handless Fake. If it's removed from the field before my next Standby Phase, I still get my hand back, right?

 

My guess would be no. Generally, Continuous Card Effects are gone once the Continuous Card is removed from the field, so if Handless Fake is removed from the field, it wont be able to activate to return the removed cards back to your hand. After werewolfjedi's explanation below, I believe he's correct that it will in fact return to your hand.

[werewolfjedi]

Magical Arm Shield takes Cyber Valley.

 

Who draws?

 

No one. The attack hits Cyber Valley and is most likely destroyed by the battle due to its 0 ATK/DEF. The timing to activate Cyber Valley is incorrect since the attack was not declared on it' date=' but instead was declared on the first target, and shifted to Cyber Valley due to Magical Arm Shield.

 

If in case the above is wrong and you can activate the Cyber Valley you stole with Magical Arm Shield, then of course, you would get to draw 1 card and End the Battle Phase since its the Cyber Valley you control that's being attacked by the opponent's monster, but I can't really see it happening like this. My reason for this is that I believe there's only one possible chain that can occur when an attack is declared, and one possible chain during the damage step. The chain that occurred during this Battle declaration was "Magical Arm Shield". Once Magical Arm Shield is resolved, it should go straight to the Damage Step, after Cyber Valley could be activated x.o

 

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Handless_Fake

 

So, let's say I activate Handless Fake. If it's removed from the field before my next Standby Phase, I still get my hand back, right?

 

My guess would be no. Generally, Continuous Card Effects are gone once the Continuous Card is removed from the field, so if Handless Fake is removed from the field, it wont be able to activate to return the removed cards back to your hand.

 

actually, it does because the effect says until your next standby phase, which is like D.hero doom lord, if the mosnter he rfp'd didn't return after it was killed, then you would be right, but both use the same wording, and so therefore, both follow the same rules.

 

otherwise it would have been worded more like future visions, where the return effect was a seperate sentence.

[darkwolf777]

actually' date=' it does because the effect says until your next standby phase, which is like D.hero doom lord, if the mosnter he rfp'd didn't return after it was killed, then you would be right, but both use the same wording, and so therefore, both follow the same rules.

 

otherwise it would have been worded more like future visions, where the return effect was a separate sentence.

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That works for me. I tried looking for other cards like that. I did look at Future Visions as an example and did notice that it was two lines of effects, so I couldn't really use it, but luckily you found something similar.

 

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[metalflygon08]

if I have a face-up Geartown, and use ancient gear drill to set a Geartown, do I miss the timing for the 1st Geartown?

[darkwolf777]

if I have a face-up Geartown' date=' and use ancient gear drill to set a Geartown, do I miss the timing for the 1st Geartown?

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The last thing to occur is the setting of the Spell Card and the destruction of the first Geartown. You should be able to activate Geartown's effect.

[daboss144]

values on:

lyla

e-hero absolute zero

 

In the US, Lyla= $5-$8

Ab0= $6-$10

[Sephiroth_The_Legend]

Debris Dragon SS'ing Rescue Cat.

can Rescue Cat use its effect even though its negated due to Debris. i always thought it was because Cat's effect is a cost thus the tribute still works.....

[-Griffin]

Debris Dragon SS'ing Rescue Cat.

can Rescue Cat use its effect even though its negated due to Debris. i always thought it was because Cat's effect is a cost thus the tribute still works.....

 

Debris Dragon does NOT negate "while face-up". You can activate Cat, but the effect is negated regardless of where Cat is.

[darkwolf777]

Debris Dragon SS'ing Rescue Cat.

can Rescue Cat use its effect even though its negated due to Debris. i always thought it was because Cat's effect is a cost thus the tribute still works.....

 

You can tribute Rescue Cat for its own effect, but it'll still be negated by the effects of Debris Dragon. Its not the same as having Skill Drain on the field and because the monster is no longer on the field, it can not longer be negated by Skill Drain. Because Rescue Cat's effect was activated on the field where Debris Dragon's effect is still placed on it, its effect will be negated, even though it effect resolves in the Graveyard. See Similar rulings with "Forbidden Chalice" where it negates a monsters effect until the End Phase and follows similar rulings.

 

Only cards that wont be negated are ones that actually activate when it is in the Graveyard (i.e. Darksea Rescue), not ones that activate on the field then resolve in the Graveyard.

[Sephiroth_The_Legend]

ah. cheers. so Dandylion + Debris is fine then>?

[werewolfjedi]

ah. cheers. so Dandylion + Debris is fine then>?

 

perfectly

[Sephiroth_The_Legend]

ah. cheers. so Dandylion + Debris is fine then>?

 

perfectly

 

yay Dandy at 2 this format!!!

[Cypress]

can divine wrath activate from ab0's destruction effect?

[Lonk]

What Deck theme specializes in controlling whatever cards your opponent draws?

[burnpsy]

What Deck theme specializes in controlling whatever cards your opponent draws?

 

There is no such deck-type. Besides, something like that would be overwhelmingly broken.

 

Closest is X-Sabers, which empties their hand, and World Lock, which skips their turn (and thus they draw nothing).

[darkwolf777]

can divine wrath activate from ab0's destruction effect?

 

Yes you can. Absolute Zero's effect will be negated and be sent to the Graveyard (in the case it was removed from play or returned to the Extra Deck from the field).

[Cypress]

can divine wrath activate from ab0's destruction effect?

 

Yes you can. Absolute Zero's effect will be negated and be sent to the Graveyard (in the case it was removed from play or returned to the Extra Deck from the field).

 

in addition, would that mean that the like would happen if divine wrath was substituted with solemn or Black Horn of Heaven?

[-Berserker-]

What Deck theme specializes in controlling whatever cards your opponent draws?

 

It would be something that includes Diabolos, Phoenix Wing Wind Blast and Raiza. Good luck with that...

[darkwolf777]

can divine wrath activate from ab0's destruction effect?

 

Yes you can. Absolute Zero's effect will be negated and be sent to the Graveyard (in the case it was removed from play or returned to the Extra Deck from the field).

 

in addition' date=' would that mean that the like would happen if divine wrath was substituted with solemn or Black Horn of Heaven?

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Solemn Judgment would have to negate the Spell/Trap Card that caused the Special Summoning of Absolute Zero, as you wont be able to negate Absolute Zero's Special Summon if you wait for it to be summoned by not negating the Spell/Trap card that summons it.

 

Black Horn of Heaven applies here as well. You will not be able to negate the Special Summon of Absolute Zero when it is Special Summoned when resolving another card's effect that is special summoning it (Miracle Fusion, Call of the Haunted, etc).

 

In a hypothetical case where it is Special Summoned and you can negate Absolute Zero directly with Solemn, a negated summon would mean Absolute Zero never reached the field, and therefore its effect would not activate, but other than another card's effect that can Special Summon it that starts a chain, i don't think there's a possible way this can happen. The only way to stop Absolute Zero's summon would be to negate the card that's Special Summoning it.

 

Ruling from wiki:

The effects of "Thunder King Rai-Oh", "Black Horn of Heaven", "Solemn Judgment", and similar cards cannot negate a Special Summon which occurs during the resolution of an effect which activates.[4]

 

* Example: When Battle Damage is inflicted, the effect of "Gorz the Emissary of Darkness" which Special Summons it activates. Thus, you cannot negate this with the effect of "Thunder King Rai-Oh".[4]

* Example: Monsters in the hand or Graveyard are removed from play to activate the effects which Special Summon "Dark Simorgh". Thus, you cannot negate this with the effect of "Thunder King Rai-Oh".[4]

[werewolfjedi]

What Deck theme specializes in controlling whatever cards your opponent draws?

 

It would be something that includes Diabolos' date=' Phoenix Wing Wind Blast and Raiza. Good luck with that...

[/quote']

 

it was called yata lock, it got banned.

[c009tas]

What Deck theme specializes in controlling whatever cards your opponent draws?

 

no theme that can do that, but Combined with Hand Control, Drop Off, and Drastic Drop off can help control your opponent's Draws.

[daboss144]

What Deck theme specializes in controlling whatever cards your opponent draws?

 

no theme that can do that' date=' but Combined with Hand Control, Drop Off, and Drastic Drop off can help control your opponent's Draws.

[/quote']

 

Yata Garasu XD