burnpsy Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 IMO, your only way to get a semi-accurate answer is to e-mail Konami on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Nyah... Let me draw it out for me and those trying to help. The idea is to SS an Union Oitsu then Union it to Soitsu (who is summoned via Limit Reverse or something). The SS is conducted by Celestial Transformation that halves the attack and destroys the MONSTER at the end of the turn. But since the monster is changed to an EQUIP SPELL. Is it still destroyed? It's confusing .-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 I'd thought of the idea myself, but no cards nor rulings tell me whether or not it works... Incidentally, couldn't you just avoid the hassle and use Roll Out!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Running Roll-Out already. But the Union itself is protection. I'll PM the rest to you lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Nyah... Let me draw it out for me and those trying to help. The idea is to SS an Union Oitsu then Union it to Soitsu (who is summoned via Limit Reverse or something). The SS is conducted by Celestial Transformation that halves the attack and destroys the MONSTER at the end of the turn. But since the monster is changed to an EQUIP SPELL. Is it still destroyed? It's confusing .-. If either of them were Special Summoned via Limit Reverse, then union equipped to another monster, since they aren't valid targets for Limit Reverse and would not be equipped to them. I don't particularly have an answer for Celestial Transformation. I could try it in TF4 next time to see how the OCG handles it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 well, as the Union monster became an Equip Spell Card, it would deem it as if it had left the field so if the Union monster remains equipped at the End Phase of the turn, the monster would not be destroyed as techinically it's not present on the field anymore (as a monster) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morfowt Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 From Yugioh.wikia:If I use "Limiter Removal" on a Union Monster, and equip it, it is not destroyed at the end of the turn, and if I turn it back into a monster its ATK is no longer doubled. so I'm guessing not destroyed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 well' date=' as the Union monster became an Equip Spell Card, it would deem it as if it had left the field so if the Union monster remains equipped at the End Phase of the turn, the monster would not be destroyed as techinically it's not present on the field anymore (as a monster)[/quote'] From Yugioh.wikia:If I use "Limiter Removal" on a Union Monster' date=' and equip it, it is not destroyed at the end of the turn, and if I turn it back into a monster its ATK is no longer doubled.[/quote'] so I'm guessing not destroyed... Thanks, the both of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Can one use Mausoleum with Obelisk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Can one use Mausoleum with Obelisk? No. It can only be Normal Summoned with 3 tributes, not the equivalent of 3 tributes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Can one use Mausoleum with Obelisk? summoning it? I think so, the 1000 lp are counted as a tribute. the effect cost however, I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Can one use Mausoleum with Obelisk? summoning it? I think so' date=' the 1000 lp are counted as a tribute. the effect cost however, I don't think so.[/quote'] Following the "Wicked" rulings, you cannot. The 1000 LP are not a tribute at all, and it is not a Tribute Summon if you use it, (such as with Monarchs). You also cannot pay 1000 LP as part of the Summon, you must use the LP for all tributes or none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Can one use Mausoleum with Obelisk? summoning it? I think so' date=' the 1000 lp are counted as a tribute. the effect cost however, I don't think so.[/quote'] Following the "Wicked" rulings, you cannot. The 1000 LP are not a tribute at all, and it is not a Tribute Summon if you use it, (such as with Monarchs). You also cannot pay 1000 LP as part of the Summon, you must use the LP for all tributes or none. ironicly, you can summon the wicked dreadroot with it on WC07. old games without ruilings are fuuny sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aoi0katana Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Can't find it...There's a Reptile (I think) that I found the other day, can't find it again... It allows you to Tribute another Reptile and Summon it, it gets the other monster's ATK DEF and name, etc... Anyone know what it's called? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Maybe do you mean "The Tyrant Neptune"? Yet another Koa'ki Meiru question: If I have an "Iron Core Specimen Lab" and a' date=' let's say, "Koa'ki Meiru Rooklord" but I don't have the Maintenance requirements for neither (The "Iron Core" and a Warrior-Type monster), can I destroy Rooklord first to add a "Koa'ki Meiru" card from the Deck and then destroy the Lab? Or are they destroyed at the same Time and I don't get to add the monster from the Deck?[/quote'] And another questions:- Does "Koa'ki Meiru Guardian" negates effects from monsters anywhere (Field, hand and Graveyard)? - Can he negate the effects of monsters that Special Summon themselves, such as "Turret Warrior"?- When I discard cards as costs while I have "Forced Requisition" face-up, does my opponent have to discard as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professional Duelist Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Maybe do you mean "The Tyrant Neptune"? Yet another Koa'ki Meiru question: If I have an "Iron Core Specimen Lab" and a' date=' let's say, "Koa'ki Meiru Rooklord" but I don't have the Maintenance requirements for neither (The "Iron Core" and a Warrior-Type monster), can I destroy Rooklord first to add a "Koa'ki Meiru" card from the Deck and then destroy the Lab? Or are they destroyed at the same Time and I don't get to add the monster from the Deck?[/quote'] And another questions:- Does "Koa'ki Meiru Guardian" negates effects from monsters anywhere (Field, hand and Graveyard)? - Can he negate the effects of monsters that Special Summon themselves, such as "Turret Warrior"?- When I discard cards as costs while I have "Forced Requisition" face-up, does my opponent have to discard as well?Yes. It doesn't specify where it can and cannot negate.No. They aren't effects, their summoning conditions.Yes. Forced Requisition does not specify that it has to be from an effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Thanks. But what about the Maintenance question? Do I get to add a "Koa'ki Meiru" monster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professional Duelist Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Perfect; Thanks for your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabapavich Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 can you use charge even if there are no more LS monsters in your deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c009tas Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 can you use charge even if there are no more LS monsters in your deck? No, you cannot. But, if the Last Lightsworn in your deck is sent to the graveyard when paying cost, you need t show your remaining deck to your opponent to prove that you dont have any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Megacyber Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 my opponent has a face down elemental hero wildheart and he activates torrential tribute.What happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 my opponent has a face down elemental hero wildheart and he activates torrential tribute.What happens? Elemental Hero Wildheart will be destroyed. His effect is only applied while he is face-up on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pika247 Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Can you chain "Shift" to "Decoy Dragon"'s effect?EX:-Opponent attacks Decoy Dragon-Decoy Dragon's effect activates, Blue-Eyes White Dragon is special summoned and made the new attack target-You play "Shift" and switch the target back to Decoy Dragon-Decoy Dragon's effect activates again and another BEWD is summoned is that a legal move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Can you chain "Shift" to "Decoy Dragon"'s effect?EX:-Opponent attacks Decoy Dragon-Decoy Dragon's effect activates' date=' Blue-Eyes White Dragon is special summoned and made the new attack target-You play "Shift" and switch the target back to Decoy Dragon-Decoy Dragon's effect activates again and another BEWD is summoned is that a legal move?[/quote'] No, because the timing is incorrect. Shift can only be activated when your opponent declares the attack on your monster (for this example of course). After Decoy Dragon's effect is activated and resolved, your opponent is no longer declaring an attack, the last thing to occur was the Special Summon of your new Dragon (and shift of attack target via Decoy Dragon's effect), so it would be illegal to play Shift at this point. Which leads to a question myself, Can you use Shift to successfully activate Decoy Dragon's effect? Based on Decoy Dragon's effect, it states "when this card is selected as an attack target by an opponent's monster", but its not really selected as an attack target by an opponent's monster, but selected due to the effects of Shift, which would lead me to believe this would not work. Or maybe it does work because it states "opponent's monster" rather than "opponent declaring an attack". Anyone have an answer for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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