CrabHelmet Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Is it not forbidden to activate a card that you know will cause a loop? If an action will clearly cause a non-terminable infinite loop' date=' then that action cannot be taken. If an action causes a non-terminable infinite loop but that result could not have been foreseen - Pole Position can lead to this with ATK-boosting Spell Cards and attacking a face-down monster, for example - then one of the cards involved is destroyed. This destruction is by game mechanic and is neither by battle nor by card effect. There are a few exceptions, mainly when there is no way to avoid the loop (ex. I know this will probably never happen, but... Player A controls Ebon Magician Curain during their draw phase. They activate Bad reaction. Player B chains A hero emerges. Player A chains gift of Greed. Player B draws two cards, one is Prime Material Dragon which is picked by a hero emerges. currains effect activates during Standby, prime material chains, bad reaction chains, ect. I know this will never happen) . In this case, one or both of the loopers are destroyed Prime Material and Bad Reaction don't work that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabapavich Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 use e-hero divine neos to remove absolute zero, somehow, divine neos is removed from the field, does he get absolute zero's effect to clear opponent's monsters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 use e-hero divine neos to remove absolute zero' date=' somehow, divine neos is removed from the field, does he get absolute zero's effect to clear opponent's monsters?[/quote'] I would assume it works like "Phantom of Chaos". E-Hero Divine Neos would only have the copied effect while face-up on the field. "Absolute Zero"'s effect would normally activate wherever it was sent to from the field. Once E-Hero Divine Neos is removed from the field, it no longer has the copied effects, therefore, there's nothing to activate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 I have no hand while I control Koa'ki Meiru Guardian during my End Phase. Is he destroyed by his effect or, because Maintenance Costs aren't quite effects, by game mechanic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabapavich Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 i think he would be destroyed, but im not sure. Anyways, are "xx-sabers" considered "x-sabers" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I know he's destroyed, but is it by card effect, or is destruction by not paying the cost to keep them on the field a different condition is the question. And yes, xx-sabers are x-sabers. It includes "x-saber" in the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 The rulings I've found seem to suggest that it is not considered an effect, but that would mean that Ghoulungulate can't protect them with its effect, which in turn makes Ghoulungulate just plain awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 That's what I was thinking.And yes, it's a big hit to Ghoul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SephirothKirby Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Does Archlord Kristya's effect to add a Fairy to your hand trigger when she is Special Summoned by any means or only by her own effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 her effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace Beleren Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 i have a question regarding catastor and northwemko if i ritual summon Northwemko and i had selected any cards on my side of the field and i declared an attack on catastor.... will catastor be destroyed or his effect will destroy north? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 i have a question regarding catastor and northwemko if i ritual summon Northwemko and i had selected any cards on my side of the field and i declared an attack on catastor.... will catastor be destroyed or his effect will destroy north? I'm conflicted... I can see two outcomes x.x 1) After re-reading Catastor's effect again, It would be possible that neither would be destroyed due to the fact that Catastor's effect states "Destroy the monster WITHOUT APPLYING DAMAGE CALCULATION". Your Northwemko is safe, but because Catastor's effect doesn't apply damage calculation, no battle takes place. 2) If "without applying damage calculation" is there just to denote when its effect occurs, rather that canceling damage calculation if its effect fails, then I would assume battle would continue normally when Catastor's effect fails, and Northwemko's higher attack would destroy Catastor. I'm leaning towards the first option x.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Does the OCG rule that states that you cannot send cards from your hand to the graveyard (different than Discard) as a cost if Macro/Banisher is on the field, applies in the TCG too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Does the OCG rule that states that you cannot send cards from your hand to the graveyard (different than Discard) as a cost if Macro/Banisher is on the field' date=' applies in the TCG too?[/quote']Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krillin! Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Is self-destruct button banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 i have a question regarding catastor and northwemko if i ritual summon Northwemko and i had selected any cards on my side of the field and i declared an attack on catastor.... will catastor be destroyed or his effect will destroy north? I'm conflicted... I can see two outcomes x.x 1) After re-reading Catastor's effect again' date=' It would be possible that neither would be destroyed due to the fact that Catastor's effect states "Destroy the monster WITHOUT APPLYING DAMAGE CALCULATION". Your Northwemko is safe, but because Catastor's effect doesn't apply damage calculation, no battle takes place. 2) If "without applying damage calculation" is there just to denote when its effect occurs, rather that canceling damage calculation if its effect fails, then I would assume battle would continue normally when Catastor's effect fails, and Northwemko's higher attack would destroy Catastor. I'm leaning towards the first option x.o[/quote'] it's the second, the without applying part just denotes the time at which is happens, and protects it from what would normally be a suicide attack, but if the monster survives the effect, the attack continues as normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 i have a question regarding catastor and northwemko if i ritual summon Northwemko and i had selected any cards on my side of the field and i declared an attack on catastor.... will catastor be destroyed or his effect will destroy north? I'm conflicted... I can see two outcomes x.x 1) After re-reading Catastor's effect again' date=' It would be possible that neither would be destroyed due to the fact that Catastor's effect states "Destroy the monster WITHOUT APPLYING DAMAGE CALCULATION". Your Northwemko is safe, but because Catastor's effect doesn't apply damage calculation, no battle takes place. 2) If "without applying damage calculation" is there just to denote when its effect occurs, rather that canceling damage calculation if its effect fails, then I would assume battle would continue normally when Catastor's effect fails, and Northwemko's higher attack would destroy Catastor. I'm leaning towards the first option x.o[/quote'] it's the second, the without applying part just denotes the time at which is happens, and protects it from what would normally be a suicide attack, but if the monster survives the effect, the attack continues as normal. Thanks for clearing that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboss144 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 When e-hero prisma is returned to the deck using Test Tiger, is it's name still treated as a gladiator beast until the end of the turn? I say no, but some stupid judge at my locals say yes. Is the judge a moron or is that the actual ruling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 When e-hero prisma is returned to the deck using Test Tiger' date=' is it's name still treated as a gladiator beast until the end of the turn? I say no, but some stupid judge at my locals say yes. Is the judge a moron or is that the actual ruling?[/quote'] It's in the deck. Of course it's not treated as a Gladiator Beast until the end of the turn. In fact, the effect goes away if it's so much as sent to the Graveyard, or flipped face-down, or in any way ceases to be face-up on the field. (At the very least, a ruling like that would lead to the old Twin-Headed Behemoth dilemma. If I return Prisma to the deck and then use a generic draw card to draw a Prisma, how do I know if that Prisma is a Gladiator Beast or not?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnus Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 I've got a question about Solidarity; The effect states "If you have only 1 original (printed) Type of monster in your Graveyard, face-up monsters you control with the same Type gain 800 ATK." What exactly does it mean by Original Printed Type? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 The type on the card.Cannot be changed by Zombie World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboss144 Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 The type on the card.Cannot be changed by Zombie World. Or any other card (dna surgery, d. Tribe, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 It's talking about type in the Graveyard.Your addition is invalid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboss144 Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 It's talking about type in the Graveyard.Your addition is invalid. Wow, I'm an idiot today... Question: Do dark world cards work with morphing jar? I say yes, but once again this stupid locals judge is being stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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