darkwolf777 Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 If my (Atomic) Scrap (Twin) Dragon gets Warning'd, I can still use its effect? Yes, because it was destroyed by your opponent's card (Solemn Warning) and sent to the Graveyard. Successfully being on the field is not a requirement to activate its effect. This applies to Scrap Dragon and Scrap Twin Dragon as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Can I activate Solemn Judgment in response to Summoning of Obeliks the Tormentor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Can I activate Solemn Judgment in response to Summoning of Obeliks the Tormentor? If they are Normal Summoning Obelisk then No because "The Normal Summon of this card cannot be negated." If they are Special Summoning Obelisk then Yes, you can. Solemn Judgment does not target, so the effect stating it cannot be targeted will not protect it. As mentioned below, you would negate the card Special Summoning Obelisk in that event >_>; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattleite Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Is there really any point for Konami to have the concept of "Missing the Timing" in Yugioh? What good does that part of the game do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Although it should be noted that Solemn Judgment should chain to the effect Special Summoning Obelisk, because Solemn can't negate a Summon that occurs during the resolution of another effect. Is there really any point for Konami to have the concept of "Missing the Timing" in Yugioh? What good does that part of the game do? Well, when they started making more effects that were optional but required specific timings, as opposed to the mandatory effects granted by things such as Sangan and Witch of the Black Forest, and the potential for chaining became more complicated due to the creation of more flexible Traps and Quick Plays, and the varying effects that would occur, they needed to create a system to determine how to resolve these effects and limit the potential for abuse that would severely break the game. So, they created "missing the timing", which forces players to strategize more and become more fluent with the mechanics of chains and resolutions, as well as limit a card's power. Think about all the cards that have timings such as "when this card is sent to the graveyard" or "when this card is destroyed". Now think of all the different ways there are to destroy/Tribute/otherwise send to the Graveyard. Now imagine the condition of the game that allows that kind of effect spamming. Trust me, it wont be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattleite Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 I think I understand what you're saying, but it seems to make otherwise Somewhat-usable cards like Peten the Dark Clown completly unusable. But if I got it right you're saying that if it was in a very long chain it would be too complicated to resolve all the effects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Although it should be noted that Solemn Judgment should chain to the effect Special Summoning Obelisk, because Solemn can't negate a Summon that occurs during the resolution of another effect. Yes, that too :o My mistake. Was busy making up some complicated strategy in the Strategy forum with a bunch of random cards lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Not just super-long chains. Even simple chains can make it complicated. But the rule works like this: -Effect C (resolving backwards), destroys card D.-Effect B is next link in chain, but card D has an effect that would activate now. Cards cannot be added to a chain during resolution. Card D misses the timing. Mandatory effects occur at next possible opportunity. -Effect C destroys Sangan-Effect B-Effect A Chain over. Sangan activates because it HAS to. The missing the timing is a case where mandatory and optional effects differ. Optional effects also tend to be more powerful and useful, so the fact you aren't forced to apply them can cause them not to be used at all if your opponent either pulls a trick (often due to their understanding of chains) or you make a poor move (possibly due to your lack of understanding). And yes, cards do suffer from loss of playability due to missing the timing, but the sheer complexity of resolving some effects, plus the effects that may be generated by these outcomes, would make the game completely unbalanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Destiny Hero Diamond Dude reveals Moray of Greed. Next turn you get to draw 3 right? (: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 If you have 2 Bora in your hand and there is a Shura face-up, are you able to special summon both Boras? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Destiny Hero Diamond Dude reveals Moray of Greed. Next turn you get to draw 3 right? (: From Wikia:The text "Return 2 WATER monsters from your hand to the Deck" of "Moray of Greed" is performed at resolution. It is not an activation cost. If you have 2 Bora in your hand and there is a Shura face-up, are you able to special summon both Boras? Yes, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 It's been a while since I've bought a box and a friend asked me, what exactly comes in a box (how many)? What would Gold Series 3 box normally cost?iirc Gold series 3 comes with 25 cards, 22 regular, 3 gold cards, i only know the cost of the GS box in UK sorry (£19 in UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowzer Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 I haven't followed yu-gi-oh for a while and I don't really know what tuners and synchros are. Could someone explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 I haven't followed yu-gi-oh for a while and I don't really know what tuners and synchros are. Could someone explain? Okay, here's a quick lesson of the changes that happened at the same time the two were introduced:• The Fusion Deck is now the Extra Deck. The Extra Deck holds Fusions and Synchros and has a limit of 15 cards total.• The main deck now has a limit of 40-60 cards, not that anyone should use more than 45 anyway.• The side deck can now hold up to 15 cards rather than requiring exactly 15 or 0. To Synchro Summon a Synchro monster, you must look at its materials and check if those materials are on the field. If the material's levels add up exactly to the Synchro Monsters, you can Synchro Summon by sending the materials to the Graveyard and summoning the Synchro monster to the field.Example: Stardust Dragon is Level 8 and its material says "1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuners" (these materials appear on most synchro monsters). Let's say I have 2 Flamvell Magicians (Level 4 Tuners), Flamvell Firedog (a Level 4), and two Quillbolt Hedgehogs (Level 2) on the field. Since Flamvell Firedog and Quillbolt Hedgehog aren't Tuners, they are non-Tuner monsters. For Synchro Material for Stardust, I can use:• either Flamvell Magician with the Firedog• either Flamvell Magician with the two QuillboltsI CANNOT use both Flamvell Magicians because they are boith Tuners and Stardust Dragon can only use one Tuner. Note that all Synchro Summons require at least one Tuner. Let's look at an example where this would matter: Junk Warrior is Level 5 and its material asks for "Junk Synchron" + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters. Phantom of Chaos is a monster that can copy another monster's name and effect, but it DOESN'T copy Tuner status since being a Tuner is not an effect. Since Phantom of Chaos using Junk Synchron's name isn't a Tuner, it cannot be used for the "Junk Synchron" part of Junk Synchron's material.Luckily, Junk Synchron makes Junk Warrior summoning easy since Junk Synchron is a Level 3 Tuner that can special summon a Level 2 monster from your Graveyard. Level 3 "Junk Synchron" (Tuner) + Level 2 non-Tuner can make Junk Warrior, or any generic Level 5 Synchro. Just be sure to look at the materials of a monster carefully.The card Chaos Goddess looks pretty amazing until you realize its a Level 8 with the following material: 1 LIGHT Tuner + 2 or more non-Tuner DARK monsters. Such specific material makes Chaos Goddess rather hard to play. If I didn't explain something clear enough or if you got confused along the way, please feel free to ask again or PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReBeL Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 if diamond dude effect is used and soul exchange is the card. can you still tribute the opponents monster and conduct battle. also with gold sarco do you just add a card to your hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 if diamond dude effect is used and soul exchange is the card. can you still tribute the opponents monster and conduct battle. also with gold sarco do you just add a card to your hand? No. You still are subject to all the conditions of the card, such as Gold Sarcophagus removing the card from play and then giving it to you in two turns, and Soul Exchange targeting a monster and skipping your Battle Phase. You just don't have to pay the costs, because Diamond Dude activates the effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewk Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Can I also use monsters in my Extra Deck for the use of Future Fusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 No, Future Fusion only sends monsters from your Main Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 If Power Tool Dragon is equipped with more than one spell when it would be destroyed, does it just dump one every time it would be destroyed, or it dumps it all at the same time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Just one per instance of destruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 If Reptilianne Gorgon is destroyed by battle, does it's effect still activate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 I think so. I can't find any rulings saying that it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Q: Just returning to the TCG since April 2010. Heard Sams had nice support, and were pretty decent. What's a stable build gonna cost me, price wise? My price is up to 300$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zektor Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 can you use gale dogra's effect, then use monster reborn to bring back a synchro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 can you use gale dogra's effect, then use monster reborn to bring back a synchro No. The ynchro must be properly summoned first to be summoned from the Graveyard or RFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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