Yu-Gi-Oh! Rulings Questions

[Brandon Michael Geren]

If I have a face-up Gateway of the Six and I summon a True Six Samurai - Kageki and use its effect, do I get 2 counters for Kageki and 2 counters for the monster Summoned or do I just get the two counters for Kageki?

[Luis El Lincer]

Cyber Dragon's ATK will be 6200. Even if Mage Power is removed from the field this turn, Cyber Dragon's ATK will still be 6200 until the Doubled ATK from Limiter Removal has ended.

 

Continuous Effects that increase ATK and DEF that are factored (Doubled, Halved) cannot further modify the ATK/DEF of a monster until the effect that Doubles/Halves wears off. This is because their effects were also factored into the effect that doubled/halved the ATK.

 

A simple example.

 

Black Garden is on the field. I summon Tragoedia. With Tragoedia's Continuous Effect it gets 600 ATK for each card in my hand. I have 4 cards, so its ATK is 2400. Black Garden activates and resolves, halving Tragoedia's ATK to 1200 (and of course a Token being Summoned). Right now, the ATK gain granted by Tragoedia's Continuous Effect was halved as well. Thanks to this, Tragoedia's Continuous Effect can no longer properly adjust the ATK. If the number of cards in your hand changes, Tragoedia's ATK through its effect will not change so long as it is affected by the halved ATK.

 

Yes i read something similar in the rulings of BW - Gale the stat change affected by this card or a card with the same type of effect becomes permanent and doesn't change

 

let's talk reasoning:

 

i Activate Reasoning my opp declares lv 4, the monster i pull is a Rare Metal Dragon... Can I special summon it?? the monster cannot be normal summon or set but can be special summon, how would this resolve before Reasoning's effect????

[darkwolf777]

If I have a face-up Gateway of the Six and I summon a True Six Samurai - Kageki and use its effect, do I get 2 counters for Kageki and 2 counters for the monster Summoned or do I just get the two counters for Kageki?

 

You would gain a total of 4 Bushido Counters.

 

Gateway of the Six states: Each time a "Six Samurai" monster is Normal or Special Summoned, place 2 Bushido Counters on this card. This is a Continuous Effect. Adding Counters does not start a chain.

 

When Kageki is Normal Summoned Successfully, Gateway of the Six gains 2 Bushido Counters. Kageki's effect activates, and when it resolves successfully, Special Summons a "Six Samurai" monster. When that Six Samurai monster is Special Summoned, Gateway gains 2 more Bushido Counters.

 

i Activate Reasoning my opp declares lv 4, the monster i pull is a Rare Metal Dragon... Can I special summon it?? the monster cannot be normal summon or set but can be special summon, how would this resolve before Reasoning's effect????

 

Reasoning makes you pick up cards until you pick up a monster that can be Normal Summoned or Set.

 

Rare Metal Dragon cannot be Normal Summoned or Set.

 

Therefore, you continue picking up cards until you get a monster that can be Normal Summoned or Set.

[Luis El Lincer]

Does anyone know the relation between MECHANICAL SPIDER and the new KARAKURI arch-type??

[darkwolf777]

Does anyone know the relation between MECHANICAL SPIDER and the new KARAKURI arch-type??

 

Mechanical Spider's Japanese name is "Karakuri Gumo". It has "Karakuri" in its name and would be and have support for cards that require a "Karakuri" monster.

[evilfusion]

I wouldn't recommend using it, though.

[Luis El Lincer]

I wouldn't recommend using it, though.

 

 

yeah lol, i just found it odd, i guess the same thing about the jap name goes for oscillo hero and the watt/elec monsters

[Expelsword]

If I wanted to make a card that would not miss the timing against Bottomless Trap Holes and other things which could potentially destroy it, but still be optional, would this be an effective clause?

 

If this card is destroyed, you can summon 1 X from your hand

[darkwolf777]

If I wanted to make a card that would not miss the timing against Bottomless Trap Holes and other things which could potentially destroy it, but still be optional, would this be an effective clause?

 

If this card is destroyed, you can summon 1 X from your hand

 

Correct. In the TCG, using the word "If" for your trigger instead of "When" would allow it to not miss the timing, at least according to Moon Dragon Quilla anyway, which is the only card that exists that does this that I can think of.

[Wrathos]

If I wanted to make a card that would not miss the timing against Bottomless Trap Holes and other things which could potentially destroy it, but still be optional, would this be an effective clause?

 

If this card is destroyed, you can summon 1 X from your hand

Correct. In the TCG, using the word "If" for your trigger instead of "When" would allow it to not miss the timing, at least according to Moon Dragon Quilla anyway, which is the only card that exists that does this that I can think of.

It isn't a question of whether the card uses 'if' or 'when'. It has to do with whether the effect is optional or not. When Bottomless Trap Hole resolves it destroys and removes from play the card simultaneously, so your card wouldn't miss timing. It could still miss timing in other situations though because its effect is optional.

[darkwolf777]

It isn't a question of whether the card uses 'if' or 'when'. It has to do with whether the effect is optional or not. When Bottomless Trap Hole resolves it destroys and removes from play the card simultaneously, so your card wouldn't miss timing. It could still miss timing in other situations though because its effect is optional.

 

Incorrect. Again, see rulings for Moon Dragon Quilla. The Optional Trigger Effect of "If this card on the field is destroyed, you can Special Summon 1 "Sun Dragon Inti" from your Graveyard." cannot miss the timing and will activate after the current chain resolves.

 

Did you at least look at the card I mentioned before posting that? I don't give examples for nothing.

 

I'm not debating the Bottomless Trap Hole issue though. Indeed "Destroy" and "Remove From Play" happen simultaneously so it wouldn't miss the timing there. It just wasn't the nature of the question so I didn't bother correcting it. x.o

[Luis El Lincer]

here's a situation i spec summon Chaos sorcerer my opp has DaD and a set card i call priority to remove DaD, i havent normal summon with at least 3 cards in hand his set card is a Book of Moon, would it be better to

 

a- Flip Dad face-down so my CS wont attack since i activated the effct

 

b- Flip My CS face-down so its eff wouldn resolve, just in case i would be able to summon a monster with more than 1000 ATK

[evilfusion]

It's better to flip DAD down. If you don't, the opponent (you in this example) can Summon a monster and attack directly. If DAD is facedown, there's the chance they won't Summon or otherwise destroy DAD and you can Flip it and resume the game. Allowing it to get RFGed is foolish because if you run Phantom of Chaos, it's infinitely better to have DAD in the Grave.

 

Flipping Chaos Sorcerer will NOT stop its effect. It's an Ignition Effect, and once activated, it will resolve even if the monster activating the effect is no longer in play or facedown. The exceptions are in cases where the Effect factors something in, such as Elemental Hero Thunder Giant destroying a monster whose original ATK is less than Thunder Giant's. If Thunder Giant is removed/facedown, its ATK is not able to be factored and can't destory anything. But Chaos Sorcerer's only requirement is for the targeted monster to be faceup, so the only way to stop this is to remove the targeted monster or flip it facedown.

[Luis El Lincer]

thnx evil fusion the 2nd part of your response was what i was after

 

any of you has some intel about the tcg-exclusive cards of starstrike blast besides Tuning and Delg and some of the naturias the booster doesnt really appeal to me...

[evilfusion]

TCG Exclusives typically don't start being revealed until the pack is closer to release. It's still a few weeks to a month until then (I think November 19 is official release, but the Sneak Preview comes first).

[Luis El Lincer]

TCG Exclusives typically don't start being revealed until the pack is closer to release. It's still a few weeks to a month until then (I think November 19 is official release, but the Sneak Preview comes first).

 

 

yeah that's why i asked, nov 7 is the sneak peak in my country well pretty much evrywhere but like i said only tuning and delg so far r the cards im after so i wanna find out a bit about the tcg-exclusive cards of the booster!

[Buttercup]

if an amazoness has its summon negated by solemn warning can i search with village?

[darkwolf777]

if an amazoness has its summon negated by solemn warning can i search with village?

 

Yes. An "Amazoness" monster was destroyed by "Solemn Warning". Being on the field is not a requirement.

[Sephiroth_The_Legend]

Can you "Book of Moon" tokens?

 

Would it mean they just fizzle and die?

[Zauls]

When "XX-Saber Darksoul" is sent to the Graveyard with "Foolish Burial", does it not get it's effect?

[Sephiroth_The_Legend]

XX-Saber Darksoul states on the card it needs to be sent while you control it.

 

So no, you do not get a search by using Foolish Burial

[Zauls]

Yeah, didn't think so... BTW, Tokens can be Booked, but they just get destroyed rather than going into face-down Defense Position.

[EHN.]

Is my Emissary of Darkness Token killed with vortex?

[darkwolf777]

Can you "Book of Moon" tokens?

 

Would it mean they just fizzle and die?

Tokens cannot be flipped face-down. They are an invalid target for Book of Moon so you cannot choose them as a target.

 

Tokens would not be destroyed if a card tried to flip them face down that didn't target (like Book of Eclipse).

 

When "XX-Saber Darksoul" is sent to the Graveyard with "Foolish Burial", does it not get it's effect?

You only control cards that are on your side of the field. You do not control cards in the Hand or Deck so you could not get Darksoul's effect if sent to the Graveyard from there.

 

Is my Emissary of Darkness Token killed with vortex?

Yes, Lightning Vortex can destroy your Emissary of Darkness token. A token is a monster and can be affected by cards where monsters are valid targets. (Of course, Tokens cannot be "sent to the Graveyard" or can they be flipped face-down as previously explained). Also, Tokens are considered "Face-Up".

[Sephiroth_The_Legend]

i thought so.....