VCR_CAT Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Cardian – InoshikachouLevel 6 DARK Synchro Effect MonsterATK 2000DEF 20001 Tuner + 2 non-Tuner monsters(1) If a “Cardian” monster you control attacks a Defense Position monster, inflict piercing battle damage to your opponent.(2) Once per turn: You can banish 1 “Cardian” monster from your Graveyard; until the end of your opponent’s next turn, your opponent cannot activate card effects in the Graveyard, and cannot Special Summon from the Graveyard. Ikasama Gohoudo (No Cheaters Allowed)Continuous Trap Card(1) Once per turn, when your opponent Special Summons a monster(s) from their hand: You can return all monsters on the field that were Special Summoned from the hand to the hand. (2) If there is not a face-up “Cardian” monster, send this card to the Graveyard. Chou Koi KoiNormal Spell CardYou can only activate 1 “Chou Koikoi” per turn.(1) Excavate the top 3 cards of your Deck, and Special Summon as many “Cardian” monsters among there as possible, ignoring their Summoning conditions, but their effects are negated and their Level becomes 2. Banish the other cards face-down, and if any are banished, you lose 1000 LP for each.(2) You can banish this card from your Graveyard, then Tribute 1 monster; Special summon 1 “Cardian” monster from your hand, ignoring its Summoning conditions. HanazumiNormal Spell CardYou can only use the (2) effect of “Hanazumi” once per turn.(1) Choose 3 “Cardian” monsters from your Deck and place them on top of your Deck in any order.(2) During your Main Phase, except during the turn this card was sent to the Graveyard: You can banish this card from your Graveyard, then target 1 “Cardian” monster in your Graveyard; add it to your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 ugh, no cheaters allowed would be amazing if it weren't for the cardian restriction. other than that, though, it's still pretty good though, breaks kozmo decks with minimal effort. inoshikachou is a basically a vastly stronger, cardian specific abyss dweller isn't it? but either way it's great. if the two spells are exactly like they were in the anime, then they're gonna be busted as hell in the real game, even if they aren't then they'll still be pretty good barring incredible nerfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted May 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 ugh, no cheaters allowed would be amazing if it weren't for the cardian restriction. other than that, though, it's still pretty good though, breaks kozmo decks with minimal effort. inoshikachou is a basically a vastly stronger, cardian specific abyss dweller isn't it? but either way it's great. if the two spells are exactly like they were in the anime, then they're gonna be busted as hell in the real game, even if they aren't then they'll still be pretty good barring incredible nerfs. For No Cheaters Allowed, it's worth noting that it hits both sides on the return effect. The Cardian effect is a bit of a bummer, but with Ameshikou out this card becomes very potent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 possibly, but a lot of monsters that summon from hand can do it multiple times per turn, and even if they don't, it puts itself in an extremely bad position by bouncing cardians. ameshikou might circumvent it somewhat, but it doesn't remove the danger permanently, and can easily get you killed if you can't summon your ED carians/ your opponent gets around your ED cardians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Chou Koi KoiNormal Spell CardYou can only activate 1 “Chou Koikoi” per turn.(1) Excavate the top 3 cards of your Deck, and Special Summon as many “Cardian” monsters among there as possible, ignoring their Summoning conditions, but their effects are negated and their Level becomes 2. Banish the other cards face-down, and if any are banished, you lose 1000 LP for each.(2) You can banish this card from your Graveyard, then Tribute 1 monster; Special summon 1 “Cardian” monster from your hand, ignoring its Summoning conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Chou Koi KoiNormal Spell CardYou can only activate 1 “Chou Koikoi” per turn.(1) Excavate the top 3 cards of your Deck, and Special Summon as many “Cardian” monsters among there as possible, ignoring their Summoning conditions, but their effects are negated and their Level becomes 2. Banish the other cards face-down, and if any are banished, you lose 1000 LP for each.(2) You can banish this card from your Graveyard, then Tribute 1 monster; Special summon 1 “Cardian” monster from your hand, ignoring its Summoning conditions.reasonable nerf (banish face-down) and still keeps the spirit of ENJOY! i love it. also, soul absorption for the lulz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Cardian – Inoshikachou1st Effect: Wow; I haven't seen that effect so many times already before this card. 2. funk. Yeah. Ikasama GohoudoPendulum and Kozmo would hate this. Are these small floodgates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Koi is cute, because it lets you actually play the damn Cardians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♪ ♪Aria ♪ ♪ Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Chou Koi Koi makes SS-ing a level 11 look easy as 1,2,3, but I think NoCheaters Allowed backfires this, which is a quite strange interaction......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 HanazumiNormal Spell CardYou can only use the (2) effect of “Hanazumi” once per turn.(1) Choose 3 “Cardian” monsters from your Deck and place them on top of your Deck in any order.(2) During your Main Phase, except during the turn this card was sent to the Graveyard: You can banish this card from your Graveyard, then target 1 “Cardian” monster in your Graveyard; add it to your hand. I'll take 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeline15 Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 ah good, the rest of the cardians are coming out. All that's missing now is Gotou.But all this makes me ask: Bee force when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted May 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 OP was updated for the new cards.and I must say, I really like what they've done with them. Chou Koi Koi will kickstart plays from the grave, and I like that they have from-grave effects at all; it'll make those misfired draws better. I'm a little disappointing that Chou Koi Koi forces Level 2 and negates effects; because now you can't even use the nomis on what you summon. But, it doesn't force a xenophobia clause, so while you don't get any dank Xyz plays out of it, you'll at least have access to a wide variety of very solid level 6 synchros. Plus, being able to summon a Cardian from your hand ignoring conditions is really helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 I'd say this confirms the remaining 4 Cardian main deck monsters and Gokou. The Spells offer a massive consistency boost to the Deck, Inoshikachou is another Synchro Option (and with Gokou likely on the way, there's the 3rd) and No Cheaters Allowed is basically a counter card. I'm happy with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Unoshikachou is pretty decent as an alternate pick to Synchro after Ameshikou, but I do wish his ATK was buffed up a little and his effect to grave-lock was Quick, but then again probably any deck can abuse it if they summon it properly and randomly run a Cardian to have in the Grave. No Cheaters Allowed is...meh. It's annoying if you play Pendulums or Kozmo, but it's weak considering its once per turn, it dies if you don't have a Cardian, and bouncing from hand not a good problem solver in the first place. At the very least, combined with Ameshikou makes this card alright. The spell cards are absolutely amazing boons to consistency in Cardians. No longer will I have to topdeck just Hana Awase... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Hana is... Really funking cool. Like, you are literally going to Summon a bunch of monsters in 1 turn. ... How appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Chou Koi Koi Looks like a fair way to get your Cardians on the field faster. Hanazumi Kind of meh. Something Chou Koi Koi could use. St least it has a second effect for recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Chou Koi Koi Looks like a fair way to get your Cardians on the field faster. Hanazumi Kind of meh. Something Chou Koi Koi could use. St least it has a second effect for recovery.I actually find Hanazumi to be much more useful than Koikoi honestly. Knowing you won't dead draw into anything that'll stop your plays is HUGE for this deck. Plus, considering how they play, this is effectively a search 3 card. It also combos with Koikoi, of course. Koikoi is cool and all, but I'm actually not a big fan of its main effect. Since it forces them to be level 2, they can't be tributed to summon another which is a real pain unless you topdeck the tuner. Fortunately, you can use its grave effect the same turn it was sent, so that's something. The main issue of course still is bricking and NEEDING spells to begin their plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Hanazumi is the freakin keystone to the deck. It ensures that when you summon the better suit monsters that you ALWAYS hit a Cardian for the next 3 summons, AND ensures you know EXACTY what you're gonna get. Koi Koi is gimmicky and random. In fact it's only real, consistent use is in combination with Hanazumi. The ideal starting hand, or at least the starting hand with the most potential, in pure cardians are one of the following:Hana Awase + Hanazumi + any 2000 attack Cardian Hanazumi + Koi Koi + ???? (whatever helps you extend your combos harder in that given situation)That is the bread and butter, and Hanazumi is the common thread between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Chou Kou-Koi wil get a lot better when the remaining Cardian monsters are made and we have another Tuner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizardonx Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 The level 2 2k/2k should be a tuner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 The level 2 2k/2k should be a tuner.the level 6 is already a tuner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 I think he's just speaking generally. If the level 2 is a tuner, you'd be able to board it off of Koikoi without using Koikoi's grave effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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