Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 2 Level 5 monstersIf this card has "Dark Rebellion Xyz Dragon" as Xyz Material, it gains these effects.● Once per turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card, then target 1 Level 5 or higher monster your opponent controls; its ATK becomes 0, and if it does, this card gains ATK equal to that monster's original ATK. These changes last until the end of this turn.● During either player's turn, when a card or effect that would destroy a card(s) is activated: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; Special Summon 1 Xyz Monster from your Graveyard, and if you do, negate that effect. ----This is what DRXD turns into, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 The first effect will probably be buffed, since Dark Rebellion IRL doesn't care about Level and keeps his ATK gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted May 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Probably, though hopefully it's only 1 Xyz Material instead of 2. (TBH, I would've liked for this version to already keep the boost instead of it expiring considering the need for a RUM to even make this). I need to double check if the Chaos Xyz from ZEXAL retain their original counterpart's effect in the exact form. Second effect is okay for blocking Raigeki and stuff, I guess, but really only works if you have an Xyz Monster in the Graveyard that can be SS'd. That, and non-destructive removal exists (but doesn't this statement apply to everything else). ---Overall, it's still an accessible 30/25 R5, albeit Vanilla if you SS it from Graveyard later or make it with its printed mats in whatever R5 decks that still work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 I need to double check if the Chaos Xyz from ZEXAL retain their original counterpart's effect in the exact form. Second effect is okay for blocking Raigeki and stuff, I guess, but really only works if you have an Xyz Monster in the Graveyard that can be SS'd. CXyz don't retain their base form's effects (usually, though they do often have an upgraded version of said effects), and you can detach then revive Dark Rebellion with the second effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallohallo Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 I was expecting new Dark Rebellion to have the first effect, since it would be fitting for the upgrade and I have a card made myself that has that effect (minus level restrictions). I'm also expecting it to have a self-Rank-Up when printed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 I'm also expecting it to have a self-Rank-Up when printed. Why would you expect that, given that a RUM (which they're likely releasing) was used to Summon it? Also I don't see Konami just letting Dark Rebellion Xyz Change into this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallohallo Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Why would you expect that, given that a RUM (which they're likely releasing) was used to Summon it? Also I don't see Konami just letting Dark Rebellion Xyz Change into this guy.Yea I only saw the RUM after I posted here. Now that I think about, this card can revive Dark Rebellion pretty easily from the grave if destruction effect is activated. And having a self-Rank-Up would be broken.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 So he broke the Summoning Dragon trend of just changing the first work for upgrades? That's... odd. I can see the first effect getting to be a generic one (with maybe a higher material need) and the second one being its Rank-Up effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Dark Rebellion confirmed for Silver Chariot This card's artwork is really funking cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 *Googles the word "requiem"* Requiem = (especially in the Roman Catholic Church) a Mass for the repose of the souls of the dead.Dark Requiem has church stained-glass wings and... [spoiler=Potential spoiler] Yuto is using it in honour of his fallen comrades.If nothing else, Dark Requiem is very flavourful in terms of its name and art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 OH MY GOD! Artwork: funking amazing! 1st effect: Mediocre. Maybe it'd be stronger if it didn't target. But regardless, this already gloats 3000 ATK. 2nd effect: Alright. Something that will protect it against destruction, as well as all your other monsters. And no strict "once per turn". But to get either of these effects, you'll have to activate a Rank-Up Magic Spell Card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQuitDolphin Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Flavor-wise, the (2) effect is funny cause it shits on Crystal Wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeline15 Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Now this is cool.The first effect could to with the removal of the level restriction, then it will be objectively an upgrade of rebellion'sThe second effect having protection AND a special summon built in seems great, especially as it's not restricted to bringing back dark rebellion. Oh, and yeah, the artwork is gorgeous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 += We finally have a natural method of doing this sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 it's already been said, but that artwork is amazing. and the effects, even if they require rebellion are pretty good. let's hope for no nerfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted May 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Yup, the art is gorgeous. Ah right, and I misread the card's first effect when I originally commented; Requiem cuts the whole thing to 0, not just half like DRXD (which I kind of thought it did, but blame that on mind being on other things at time). But otherwise, hopefully it hits any monster instead of just Level 5+ (likely will if they want to follow DRXD, and boost stays on). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Flavor-wise, the (2) effect is funny cause it shits on Crystal Wing.Speedroid Karakuri can summon Crystal Wing and Nat Beast turn 1, so they won't let this be summoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 So... this card just negates and doesn't destroy. So, you can negate your own destruction effects without popping 'em. Me likey. Ima see if I can find a good way to abuse this... [spoiler=In terms of the anime, was this the first time in Arc-V that...]A new powered-up form of a monster didn't actually win Yuya the duel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragulas Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 Most likely wont happen but i really really want this to have a self rank up. I will make a space in the extra of wereever i run DRXD if it happens, artwork is sick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 This thing seems awesome and will probably get a similar tweak like how Dark Rebellion did, since the Level 5+ thing has always been anime-exclusive. Odd-Eyes Pendulum in the anime only doubled damage vs Level 5+. Odd-Eyes in real doubles damage always.Dark Rebellion only worked on Level 5+, RL does against anything (but costs both Overlays). Anime was temporary boost, RL permanent.Clear Wing is the exception because it has TWO negation effects. It is loyal to the anime. It negates either a Level 5+, or an effect that targets a Level 5+. Odd-Eyes Rebellion required Dark Rebellion to use its effect, burned for ATK of destroyed monsters, and could attack that many times. RL needs an Xyz in general, burns for exactly 1000 each, and can attack 3 times no matter what. Crystal Wing is same as anime, though it did keep the Level 5+ Honest effect, but it does amazing stuff, so this isn't terrible. However...Dark Requiem is getting screwed by the Level 5+ thing, unless it's changed to anything, but even that seems ridiculously OTKy. Turning to 0 and gaining the same amount with a default 3000 body...ouch. The second effect is certainly interesting, but conditional. Hilariously, it does seem to be a counter against Clear Wing/Crystal Wing, since Dark Rebellion got thrashed by Clear Wing originally, and Requiem can now thrash it back in return. Only thing I dislike is that its name doesn't roll off the tongue as well, and the other Dimension Dragons and their evolved forms did. Dark Requiem feels a bit more awkward to say than "Dark Rebellion", but that could just be because we've had Dark Rebellion since like...episode 8, and I've gotten absurdly used to its name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 Don't know how relevant this is, but it can negate Pendulum Sorc I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted May 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 Sorcerer is still in triples here in TCG, so I'd probably say this would be pretty useful against chaining against the destruction/search combos (though I'm not totally familiar with how PPals function now, given the April hits). How does it pan out for you in OCG, Winter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 Sorcerer is still in triples here in TCG, so I'd probably say this would be pretty useful against chaining against the destruction/search combos (though I'm not totally familiar with how PPals function now, given the April hits). How does it pan out for you in OCG, Winter?Not much. Metals have pretty much become the dominant pendulum deck, and I'd argue at times it seems like even Qlis have more of a meta impact than Pal/Magicians/Odd-Eyes Ever since monkey got banned the deck has been on a decline and Sorc isn't even run in all the Odd-Eyes pendulum builds. The pals seem to be on the way out :/ Sky Iris and Maje are the new "glue" of the deck afaict Ex. It's seeing a little resurgence as of recently when Odd-Eyes tops if only to get Ariadne off and search Unicorn and Joker, but hardly a major "destruction" card to stop Honestly, a soft-block to Torrential/BTH and Hole/Twister/Duster is where this card could shine I'd say Blue Eyes lose out on alternate too, but it's not like they wouldn't just go for Cipher and make DMD if faced down with this guy edit: I should say that Metals outperform Odd Eyes in TOPS It's not unheard for more Odd Eyes to enter, but they usually don't win as much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 It's going to get nerfed. Hard. ZW Leo Arms and Zereort both exist, and they cover niches this card does: 3K and dropping to 0. And the latter isn't generic. Granted, they could argue the former being updated due to it supporting a deck, but the latter is an issue. My problem is that I can't see how they nerf it without overshadowing (the sheet) Zereort. Making it 2 DARKs seems bad for flavor, while making it only gain effects of DRXD1 is attached seems bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 Now that I think about it, how on earth did Yuya use both effects in the same turn? If he ditched Launch, he wouldn't have had a target to use the second effect, since DRXD would be under it. If he ditched DRXD, he couldn't have used the second effect. How the hell did Yuya do what he did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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