Blake Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 1 Tuner + 1 non-Tuner DARK Dragon-Type Synchro MonsterDuring either player's turn: You can target 1 face-up card your opponent controls; negate its effects until the end of this turn. When this card inflicts battle damage to your opponent: You can target 1 Tuner monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon it in Defense Position. You can only use each effect of "Hot Red Dragon Archfiend Abyss" once per turn. early 3200 Card is actually the nuts, now that there's a non-garbage way to get it out and a good tuner to revive. Being able to revive the tuner is arguably the best part of the card, with the opt negate being a cherry on top of a 3200 that goes +. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 is Bane worth it?going +2 on something that doesnt really do anything else but revive this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted April 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 is Bane worth it?going +2 on something that doesnt really do anything else but revive this?idk, i don't think bane's worth it. It always seemed way weaker than this, especially when you're going to run out of tuners after 0-1 use of Bane. This, however, does a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 You're making this using Wyvern + Unizombie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 You're making this using Wyvern + Unizombie?Isn't wyvern fire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Oh damn, you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Oh damn, you're right.I assume he's using the newest RDA + shiranui 2, but I could be wrong 2+8=/=9 I can't count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted April 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 You're making this using Wyvern + Unizombie?wyvern is FIRE, sadly There are a fair few scenarios where it's entirely possible to drop. never costs more than "1" card. Sage in hand + Sword in Grave.Scapeghost in hand with Sword + Sage in Grave.Sage + Mezuki + Sword in Grave. And more, though those three are the most prominent. NS Sage/NS Scapeghost/Use Mezuki Sage into Scapeghost, if needed. Sword + Sage = 6. Sage revives banished Sword. Sword + 6 = S/H/RDA (X)RDA + Scapeghost = Abyss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Oh, this is in context of Shiranui? Uh yeah, ignore Bane then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 in general use there's really little point to bother with bane outside perhaps themed deck anyway, as the biggest thing it brings is the extra big body for damage if you already have summoned Abyss/summoned it using Abyss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Sooooo does that mean Scapeghost is actually being used successfully?If so, that makes me really, really happy. It HAD to be useful at some point. That negation effect is definitely worth it, and this card is more generic and easy to drop than similar effects out there such as Contrast HERO. The Tuner revival effect is a great bonus, but I think it's mostly just that, a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 early 3200I gave you 10 Reps, to get you closer to that. Cuz I could =D Card is actually the nuts, now that there's a non-garbage way to get it out and a good tuner to revive.To be fair, this applies to many cards. I mean, as long as something is playable in a, preferred, resourceful manner, then by all means it isn't terrible O,o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted April 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Oh, this is in context of Shiranui? Uh yeah, ignore Bane then.Well, yes. I'm not playing the RDA build, but shiranui is easily the best RDA.dek, due to the ease of shitting out 8s + tuners. in general use there's really little point to bother with bane outside perhaps themed deck anyway, as the biggest thing it brings is the extra big body for damage if you already have summoned Abyss/summoned it using Abyss.Tried thinking it through. If you have:Mezuki, Mezuki, Sage, Sword in the bin, you can go: Mezuki revive sage, sack for ScapeghostSage + sword = 6Sword + 6 = (X)RDAMezuki res sword, RDA + Sword = BaneNS w/eBane sacks the NS, gets RDARDA + Scapeghost = Abyss but it seems unwieldy for a tight ED slot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Remind me, is Tyrant very doable in Shiranui? Abyss here being a mini-Quasar is nasty, especially when he can float stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted April 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Remind me, is Tyrant very doable in Shiranui? Abyss here being a mini-Quasar is nasty, especially when he can float stuff.Sword + Uni (4) + any 4Sword + Uni (3) + SeraphiScapeghost + Uni (5) + Seraphi It's doable, just not incredibly worth it once I realized the deck wants sword setup more than Mezuki setup, though obv both is optimal, which this lets you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Sword + Uni (4) + any 4Sword + Uni (3) + SeraphiScapeghost + Uni (5) + Seraphi It's doable, just not incredibly worth it once I realized the deck wants sword setup more than Mezuki setup, though obv both is optimal, which this lets you do.I ask just because Tyrant can clear the board to go for game, which does give it more utility than Bane just recycling stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Sooooo does that mean Scapeghost is actually being used successfully?If so, that makes me really, really happy. I mean, it is a level 1 dark zombie tuner. The fact that it makes goats 1/30 games is just icing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 I usually see resonator decks pairing this with Beatrice (using Mali + Lv6 Synchro) it's a huge pain when your only option is to castel the card as Beatrice can mill Gospel to protect it from Raigeki/Utopia Lightning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr47t Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 What deck would this be run in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 What deck would this be run in?Shiranui for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 What deck would this be run in?Someone at my locals runs RDA Infernoid/Resonators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr47t Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Also, I wonder why it's called Hot Red instead of Red Hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconus297 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 So the Red Dragon Archfiend name is still intact. Still makes me wonder why they did it for Hot Red and not Stardust Spark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 it's a huge pain when your only option is to castel the card Faster than a speeding solemn! More powerful than a Dark Hole! Able to leap over all protection in a single bound Voices: Look, at the Field! It's a spell! It's a quick-play! It's Superpoly! Announcer: Yes, it's Superpoly, strange visitor from another format Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 So the Red Dragon Archfiend name is still intact. Still makes me wonder why they did it for Hot Red and not Stardust Spark.Because "Stardust" can reasonably an archetype... And there are "Stardust" cards that aren't this. OCG has the archetype as "Red Daemon's", but the name order is different here. As such, the archetype became "Red Dragon Archfiend". Stardust lacks this issue, and actually has a small bit of groundwork for it, such as Xiaolong, Phantom, and Shimmer. also spark stardust dragon sounds dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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