-kyo- Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Ancient Gear Devil???/1800Once per turn: You can inflict 1000 damage to your opponent for each face-up Spell Card you control. While this card is equipped with an Equip Card, it is unaffected by your opponent's card effects. Ancient Gear Magic ShieldEquip only to an "Ancient Gear" monster. It gains 1200 DEF, also it cannot be destroyed by battle. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Ancient_Gear_Devilhttp://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Ancient_Gear_Magic_Shield please discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Even with the massive S/T removal. 3 of each of these are a pain to deal with. The fact that devil becomes a towers that can't be beaten by battle blows my mind tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 Wow, Academia sure loves burn. Wow, Konami sure loves Tower effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQuitDolphin Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 >You can inflict 1000 damage to your opponent for each face-up Spell Card you control.>Max 1 Field Spell uhhhhhhhhh ------ "Unaffected by card effects": Who knew they were going to tack that phrase on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 Doesn't Devil have 2800 DEF, not 1800? It's a plot device. It could possibly be super-flexible in Materials, like 2 Ancient Gears. Or it could require 2 Ancient Gear Soldiers. Which on that note, the Fusion Materials required have absolutely nothing to do with the result. 2 Soldiers = ...a defensive metal demon? Admittedly, Chaos Giant had nothing to do with the Hound Dog Fusions, but that at least had the "escalating Materials" thing, with 2 Dogs = Double Bite. 3 Dogs or Double Bite + Dog = Triple Bite. No idea what Ultimate Hound required (Triple + Hound? 2 Double Bites? 4 Hounds?). And all of them made Chaos Giant. And yes, the whole "Academia Antique Gears = Burn Fusion Deck" is getting a bit wearisome, because it's looking like Academia literally just thrives on ganging up on people and winning via attrition with burn effects, rather than an actual battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 Doesn't Devil have 2800 DEF, not 1800? It's a plot device. It could possibly be super-flexible in Materials, like 2 Ancient Gears. Or it could require 2 Ancient Gear Soldiers. Which on that note, the Fusion Materials required have absolutely nothing to do with the result. 2 Soldiers = ...a defensive metal demon? Admittedly, Chaos Giant had nothing to do with the Hound Dog Fusions, but that at least had the "escalating Materials" thing, with 2 Dogs = Double Bite. 3 Dogs or Double Bite + Dog = Triple Bite. No idea what Ultimate Hound required (Triple + Hound? 2 Double Bites? 4 Hounds?). And all of them made Chaos Giant. And yes, the whole "Academia Antique Gears = Burn Fusion Deck" is getting a bit wearisome, because it's looking like Academia literally just thrives on ganging up on people and winning via attrition with burn effects, rather than an actual battle.Chaos Giant was made of the dogs, iirc. Had them as shoulders and the like. This idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King K. Azo Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 What is this? What is this?! Does it look ancient to you?! Also, Ancient Gears were a beatdown deck? Why is Arc-V turning them into a burn deck? I mean, I know most AGs screw up the idea of Action Cards, but then just used some different fusion archetype than Ancient Gears! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 I was mildly excited at Roget fusing 2 AG Soldiers. But he's continuing to cower away, sitting on something difficult to break while taking pot shots at Reiji. I guess it's symbolic. They don't make AG cards like they used to anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 To be fair, many AG cards used in decks were never seen in the anime anyways. AG Gadiltron Dragon and Geartown were never used by Crowler, or anyone else really. So they never made them like they used too in general. Plus Ancient Gear Explosive and Ancient Gear Tank also caused burn in some way or another. So, it's not as if the burn wasn't there before. Hell, both Chimera and Dragon also has burn effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Cheng Men Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 I'm pretty disappointed at the new Ancient Gears. It brutally changed their play styles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 I'm pretty disappointed at the new Ancient Gears. It brutally changed their play styles.What playstyle. Ancient Gears were always an incoherent mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 I was about to say that myself. Their only real play was play Geartown, then set a new field spell to pop it (before the rule change). That's literally the depth and breadth of AG plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 I was about to say that myself. Their only real play was play Geartown, then set a new field spell to pop it (before the rule change). That's literally the depth and breadth of AG plays.Pretty much. Their cards are all over the place, with the Gadjiltrons not even tangentially relating to the original stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 Yeah, tbh, if not for AG Golem not being Special Summonable, he would have replaced Dragon in Geartown decks. I mean, from a distance, they're a beatdown deck that tries to OTK, otherwise, well, they don't even have any lower levels even worth summoning. Knight is a freaking gemini, and Soldier is far too weak to do anything. They HAVE no real playstyle, so might as well use burn, since it combos nicely with their beatdown. Weaken your opponent with burn, then use their AG clause to skirt BP spells/traps for heavy damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 Yeah, tbh, if not for AG Golem not being Special Summonable, he would have replaced Dragon in Geartown decks. I mean, from a distance, they're a beatdown deck that tries to OTK, otherwise, well, they don't even have any lower levels even worth summoning. Knight is a freaking gemini, and Soldier is far too weak to do anything. They HAVE no real playstyle, so might as well use burn, since it combos nicely with their beatdown. Weaken your opponent with burn, then use their AG clause to skirt BP spells/traps for heavy damage.Plus it's not like Fusion is a new thing for them because Ultimate Golem was a thing. Also Ancient Gear Cannon did burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 And the aforementioned Explosive and Tank upon destruction. Hell, their fusion and burn orientated trend could help them, since Hound Dog has a lot of use thanks to its ability to fuse. If they also get a RotA of some kind or easier access to Gear Gigant X, they could do a bit better. Not a lot, just a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 And the aforementioned Explosive and Tank upon destruction. Hell, their fusion and burn orientated trend could help them, since Hound Dog has a lot of use thanks to its ability to fuse. If they also get a RotA of some kind or easier access to Gear Gigant X, they could do a bit better. Not a lot, just a bit.I specifically wanted to point out a monster, and a non-Gadjiltron one at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 Fair call, granted, AG would have been helped more if Ancient Gear Box could search more than just Cannon and Knight. They might as well have called it a Geargiabox for how much it benefits Geargia instead of Ancient Gears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 Ancient Gears had their 5 minutes of glory with Malefics...that's really it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 Fair call, granted, AG would have been helped more if Ancient Gear Box could search more than just Cannon and Knight. They might as well have called it a Geargiabox for how much it benefits Geargia instead of Ancient Gears.Pretty much. I'm fairly sure they just called it that so it wouldn't be a Geargia monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 I hope they release the new Ancient Gears in the Fusion booster SP (supposing they release one). It would make sense as in both High-Speed Riders and Wing Raiders there was a new non-anime theme (PSY-Frame, Quantums), a new anime archetype (Speedroids, Phantom Knights, presumably Predator Plants next, although it is also possible they will be in Invasion of Venom), and support for an already existing archetype (Resonator/RDA, Raidraptor, maybe Ancient Gears). Basically I just want them to get released somewhere. The stall-burn theme seems fun to use and the bosses are awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 I hope they release the new Ancient Gears in the Fusion booster SP (supposing they release one). It would make sense as in both High-Speed Riders and Wing Raiders there was a new non-anime theme (PSY-Frame, Quantums), a new anime archetype (Speedroids, Phantom Knights, presumably Predator Plants next, although it is also possible they will be in Invasion of Venom), and support for an already existing archetype (Resonator/RDA, Raidraptor, maybe Ancient Gears). Basically I just want them to get released somewhere. The stall-burn theme seems fun to use and the bosses are awesome.They'll likely be released eventually, but what Ancient Gears really need is consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 They'll likely be released eventually, but what Ancient Gears really need is consistency. That is not entirely correct, first of all they need plays worth being consistent, afterwards they require consistency ... hopefully the dog fusions float, we get a buffed chaos fusion and dog can fuse from the hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 Hunting Dog can use materials from the hand. They just need to remove the requirement of needing another AG instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 That is not entirely correct, first of all they need plays worth being consistent, afterwards they require consistency ... hopefully the dog fusions float, we get a buffed chaos fusion and dog can fuse from the hand.Ultimate Golem is a massive damage machine already, I'd call him worth being consistent for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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