☪©h@ÐØÖk.exe☪ Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 It may be in wrong section, but, can an effect monster be treated as a Normal monster? Except Being A Gemini monster, as Special Summon-only monsters cant be a Gemini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuriena Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 Not really sure if it would work this way honestly. You could always make them Normal Summon, ignoring the Summoning conditions. Or just create your own rulings on the matter. You'll notice that you can Special Summon Ritual/Fusion/Synchro/Xyz Monsters with card effects even though they have the properties of Special Summon-only monsters, if that card effect specifically Special Summons a monster of that name or monster card type. That is, unless they actually have the Special Summon-only or "cannot be Special Summoned by other ways" text. This is because card effects take precedence over game mechanics, but not conditions written on a card. As such, I'd say that a Ritual/Fusion/Synchro/Xyz Monster that says it can Normal Summon itself should be able to, without ignoring any Summoning conditions, even though they're Special Summon-only monsters, as long as they do not also say that they cannot be Normal Summoned. If you don't mind taking on more liberties, you can do what onii-chan said instead: Make them Special Summon themselves a second time, instead of using the Normal Summon. It's not that far-fetched; Spirit monsters are also Normal Summon-oriented, but when a Special Summon-only monster has that ability (Yamato-no-Kami), the conventional text for Spirit monsters changes to accomodate its Special Summon-only status. This could also happen for Gemini monsters to better suit the monster's card type. The Special Summon does not have to be free, so that you can offset the potential balance issues and pointlessness of a Special Summon-only Gemini monster that does not use the Normal Summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
☪©h@ÐØÖk.exe☪ Posted March 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 Not really sure if it would work this way honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndUser Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 Try making 1 or more cards and PM them to me 1st if u want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
☪©h@ÐØÖk.exe☪ Posted March 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 I guess you're right about this ^^;But for the heads up, here's a sample: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndUser Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 The picture's dimensions don't help. :/It's important that you add the descriptio too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
☪©h@ÐØÖk.exe☪ Posted March 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 Damn the wikia X_X1 "Paintress" Tuner + 1 or more non Tuner Normal MonstersThis card is also treated as a Normal Monster while is on the field or in the Graveyard. When this card is Synchro Summoned: Destroy all face-up non-Normal Monsters your opponent controls. If this card battles a non-Normal Monster, battle damage inflicted to your opponent is doubled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndUser Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 The interpretation is good; since it "also" counts as a Normal Monster there is no confusion with the existence of the effect. As for the effects themselves, I'd say it is generally fine, looking at the Summoning conditions. However, since we don't know about the Paintress archetype, it's difficult to have a clear opinion, so I'd suggest that you start a topic in the Multiple section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
☪©h@ÐØÖk.exe☪ Posted March 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 I'll post them once i get everything set up =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndUser Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Of course.Some Noble Knights have this ability, the new White Spirit Dragon and the old Simorgh, Bird of Ancestry. (I still find it hilarious that Wind Effigy's effect is useful ONLY for this exact monster, but whatever.)It may be in wrong sectionIt probably is. The Q&A section is more appropriate, although it wouldn't be a problem (at least to me) to just write it in the status bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
☪©h@ÐØÖk.exe☪ Posted March 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 So is it okay if i have a Synchro monster activates effects while being treated as a Normal Monster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndUser Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 So is it okay if i have a Synchro monster activates effects while being treated as a Normal Monster?Of course not.If it counts as a Normal Monster on the field, it's like there is no effect to use. That's why every monster that counts as a Normal Monster does it either if it's somewhere besides on the field or if something makes them be treated as Effect Monsters (Gemini Monsters do this by default). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
☪©h@ÐØÖk.exe☪ Posted March 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Of course not.If it counts as a Normal Monster on the field, it's like there is no effect to use. That's why every monster that counts as a Normal Monster does it either if it's somewhere besides on the field or if something makes them be treated as Effect Monsters (Gemini Monsters do this by default).Synchro Monsters can't be Gemini, as they are Special Summon-only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndUser Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Oh... :| They can be Gemini, but they should work as a Gemini Monster. This means, since you're Summoned them properly: If you re-Special Summon them, you can make them count as Effect monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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It may be in wrong section, but, can an effect monster be treated as a Normal monster? Except Being A Gemini monster, as Special Summon-only monsters cant be a Gemini.
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