Valkyrion the Magna Warrior

[-kyo-]

Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must first be Special Summoned (from your hand) by Tributing 1 "Alpha The Magnet Warrior", "Beta The Magnet Warrior", and "Gamma The Magnet Warrior" from your hand and/or your side of the field. You can Tribute this card, then target 1 "Alpha The Magnet Warrior", "Beta The Magnet Warrior", and "Gamma The Magnet Warrior" in your Graveyard; Special Summon those targets.

 

dose anybody think this'll get remade into a contact fusion in the upcoming nostalgia packs?

[Toffee.]

Valk isn't as iconic as the rest of Yugi's monsters. So I doubt it.

[Sander]

Valk isn't as iconic as the rest of Yugi's monsters. So I doubt it.

 

IDK why that is the case, I mean it was used in a wombo combo to destroy all 3 God Cards.

[Azuh]

Valk isn't as iconic as the rest of Yugi's monsters. So I doubt it.

No!! I need more Magnet Warriors and I need them now

[Sleepy]

I wonder what it'd take for this to make an impact. Pick one or more of the following:

-Make it a Fusion.

-Give it Contact-fusion-like alternative.

-Make its de-fuse effect a quick effect.

-Make the Magnets into Gadget-like effects.

-Give any piece(s) in the combo an extra effect to further help them in the retrains.

Soooo for improvised card-making, and based on the various ways they were ever used in the anime, I could come up with something along the lines of:
[spoiler=cards]

(All with the same Type, Attribute, Level, ATK and DEF as the originals)

 

Alpha The Magnet Warrior

When Normal Summoned: You can add 1 "Beta The Magnet Warrior" from your Deck or Graveyard to your hand. Once per turn: You can target "Magnet Warrior" or "Summoned Skull" monsters you control; this card's ATK becomes the total ATK of the targets, until the End Phase, but if you do, the targets cannot attack directly this turn.

 

Beta The Magnet Warrior

When Normal Summoned: You can add 1 "Gamma The Magnet Warrior" from your Deck or Graveyard to your hand. If used for a Fusion Summon, monsters destroyed by battle by the Fusion Monster are banished instead.

 

Gamma The Magnet Warrior

When Normal Summoned: You can add 1 "Alpha The Magnet Warrior" from your Deck or Graveyard to your hand. If a "Magnet Warrior" monster(s) you control would be affected by an opponent's monster's effect, you can pay 100 LP to target that "Magnet Warrior" monster(s); have another monster(s) on the field be affected by that effect instead.

 

Valkyrion The Magna Warrior

"Alpha The Magnet Warrior" + "Beta The Magnet Warrior" + "Gamma The Magnet Warrior"
You can Fusion Summon this card from your Extra Deck by sending the above cards from your hand/field to the Graveyard as Fusion Materials, and if you do, this turn this card is treated as a "Magnet Warrior" card and gains the effects of its Fusion Materials. During either player's Main Phase: You can target 1 of each of the Fusion Materials listed in this card from your Graveyard; Tribute and Special Summon the targets.

 

Why those effects?

 

Alpha's is for when it randomly became 4100 against the first rare hunter just because Summoned Skull was around (even though they probably just did that to get done with the duel already), and also giving it something with a similar effect to what they got when they ganged up against an Obelisk boosted by Orichalcos.

 

Gamma's to mimic when they beat all 3 Egyptian Gods at the end of the series (that's also the only effect Valkyrion here can really gain here), the 100 LP cost is just to make it able to activate more than once per chain.

 

Beta's is not referencing anything. I looked at his appearances and most of the time it was just being used for a Tribute Summon or getting its ass kicked around by the opponent's cards. Instead of using that as a reference, I decided to give it something that'd help nowadays.

 

 

 

[~British Soul~]

 

 

No!! I need more Magnet Warriors and I need them now

Well Konami could always print Bastion's Magnet Warriors...

[-kyo-]

Well Konami could always print Bastion's Magnet Warriors...

that would be nice

[~British Soul~]

 

 

that would be nice

It would. I mean Azuh wanted more Magnet Warriors and those guys were the first things that sprung to mind.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Maybe make something like delta the manger warrior to tool box the rest out of the deck

[Azuh]

Just give the deck a super Rescue Rabbit. That would be cool

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Just give the deck a super Rescue Rabbit. That would be cool

Why not? Not like it's going to break anything. Throw a few restrictions on it, like you can only summon rock monsters?

[Neochu-H]

IDK why that is the case, I mean it was used in a wombo combo to destroy all 3 God Cards.

 you forget that the pharaoh wasn't trying so what does this matter lol

[Sleepy]

 you forget that the pharaoh wasn't trying so what does this matter lol

 

The pharaoh explicitly said he'd try his best despite hoping to get bested at the start of the duel.

When he said "I knew you'd defeat the god cards" in the dub, I don't think it was exactly how it was said in the manga and sub versions, and it basically means he had confidence in Yugi's potential to overcome it, not that he was just going easy. 

 

So no, he WAS trying.

[Sander]

 you forget that the pharaoh wasn't trying so what does this matter lol

 

'ride em dick cowboy, ride em!

[Neochu-H]

The pharaoh explicitly said he'd try his best despite hoping to get bested at the start of the duel.

When he said "I knew you'd defeat the god cards" in the dub, I don't think it was exactly how it was said in the manga and sub versions, and it basically means he had confidence in Yugi's potential to overcome it, not that he was just going easy. 

 

So no, he WAS trying.

 

summons slifer obelisk and ra

only uses slifer effect

 

obelisk has eff to end duel during battle phase, didn't use

so trying you say? i think not.

[Tinkerer]

summons slifer obelisk and ra

only uses slifer effect

 

obelisk has eff to end duel during battle phase, didn't use

so trying you say? i think not.

 

(Wasn't Slifer's effect forcibly triggered by Yugi?  Then again, I may be misremembering stuff...)

 

 

I'd like to see a retrain of this/the Magnet Warriors.  On another note, if only "A Wild Monster Appears" didn't restrict summons for the turn, this might've been a pretty nice target for it.

[Sleepy]

summons slifer obelisk and ra

only uses slifer effect

 

obelisk has eff to end duel during battle phase, didn't use

so trying you say? i think not.

I don't recall Obelisk consistently having an effect that activated during the battle phase, save for some plays from the ass that Marik vs Yugi had where a revived Obelisk could somehow block an attack directed at other monsters, and Kaiba sure didn't use his effect during the battle phase at any point during the duel in the coliseum, and he had 4 monsters to use it with when Yugi did the massive Slifer ATK decrease combo, and since the Tributes are costs, it should be quicker than Slifer's second mouth attack to get through.

I just made a google search too in order to see Obelisk's anime effect, and this is what I got:

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Obelisk_the_Tormentor_(anime)

 

Obelisk's effect is not quick. Even if it was, Yugi's time jumping spell doesn't cause Obelisk to attack again any more than Pyro Clock of Destiny does IRL. At that point Turn Jump had already finished resolving, so the swarming of monsters that led to Atem having all 3 gods and even just enough monsters for a potential Obelisk wipe effect to be used.

Yugi took them down pretty much the turn after.

 

It'd be nice if you could elaborate if you think my explanation is not what you meant, I'll listen.

[Neochu-H]

I don't recall Obelisk consistently having an effect that activated during the battle phase, save for some plays from the ass that Marik vs Yugi had where a revived Obelisk could somehow block an attack directed at other monsters, and Kaiba sure didn't use his effect during the battle phase at any point during the duel in the coliseum, and he had 4 monsters to use it with when Yugi did the massive Slifer ATK decrease combo, and since the Tributes are costs, it should be quicker than Slifer's second mouth attack to get through.

I just made a google search too in order to see Obelisk's anime effect, and this is what I got:

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Obelisk_the_Tormentor_(anime)

 

Obelisk's effect is not quick. Even if it was, Yugi's time jumping spell doesn't cause Obelisk to attack again any more than Pyro Clock of Destiny does IRL. At that point Turn Jump had already finished resolving, so the swarming of monsters that led to Atem having all 3 gods and even just enough monsters for a potential Obelisk wipe effect to be used.

Yugi took them down pretty much the turn after.

 

It'd be nice if you could elaborate if you think my explanation is not what you meant, I'll listen.

 

 

sigh

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Egyptian_God

 

Individual abilities

"Obelisk's" known special ability is:

During either player's turn while it is in Attack Position, the player can Tribute two other monsters they control to activate one of these effects: Increase its ATK to ∞ as well as attack all monsters the opponent controls, regardless of whose turn it is. After it has attacked, the ATK of "Obelisk" returns to its original value

[Tinkerer]

sigh

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Egyptian_God

Individual abilities

"Obelisk's" known special ability is:

During either player's turn while it is in Attack Position, the player can Tribute two other monsters they control to activate one of these effects: Increase its ATK to ∞ as well as attack all monsters the opponent controls, regardless of whose turn it is. After it has attacked, the ATK of "Obelisk" returns to its original value

8/10 It only increases its ATK to infinity, but not beyond.

[Sleepy]

sigh

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Egyptian_God

 

Individual abilities

"Obelisk's" known special ability is:

During either player's turn while it is in Attack Position, the player can Tribute two other monsters they control to activate one of these effects: Increase its ATK to ∞ as well as attack all monsters the opponent controls, regardless of whose turn it is. After it has attacked, the ATK of "Obelisk" returns to its original value

 

Really, that's just some bullshit interpretation from the wikia because the gods didn't have an official IRL effect for the longest time and the first series altered the way they interpreted the same effect out of convenience. We are talking about the times when Alpha the Magnet Warrior got boosted to 4100 ATK with no effects whatsoever just because "Summoned Skull gave it lightning" which pretty much was both monsters attacking but the episode wanting to wrap it up sooner.

 

The effect both in anime and manga was used as "Tribute 2 > Raigeki" like 99% of the time because that's what it pretty much was. It was never even used to attack multiple monsters anywere; the reason all other monsters's holograms died was because the one attack's battle damage ended the duel, similar to how Slifer suddenly was animated dying from the player losing by decking out.

 

Kaiba sure never used it, and he's not the type to go easy on anybody. Atem didn't take advantage of it vs Marik in the finals, was that going easy? The argument of the last duel explicitly says he's not going easy.

I can give you that: Evidently they did a poor job out of it due to loose rules and effects with inconsistencies, but canon-wise no, he didn't go easy. No subtle (or otherwise) hints were given whatsoever about it anywhere that'd say otherwise. Therefore, it wasn't him throwing it away. In fact, right there they said that he'd be unable to leave if he didn't go all out. 

Again: No in-universe "went easy". It can be crappy planning from the author, but not in-universe.

[Neochu-H]

Really, that's just some bullshit interpretation from the wikia because the gods didn't have an official IRL effect for the longest time and the first series altered the way they interpreted the same effect out of convenience. We are talking about the times when Alpha the Magnet Warrior got boosted to 4100 ATK with no effects whatsoever just because "Summoned Skull gave it lightning" which pretty much was both monsters attacking but the episode wanting to wrap it up sooner.

 

The effect both in anime and manga was used as "Tribute 2 > Raigeki" like 99% of the time because that's what it pretty much was. It was never even used to attack multiple monsters anywere; the reason all other monsters's holograms died was because the one attack's battle damage ended the duel, similar to how Slifer suddenly was animated dying from the player losing by decking out.

 

Kaiba sure never used it, and he's not the type to go easy on anybody. Atem didn't take advantage of it vs Marik in the finals, was that going easy? The argument of the last duel explicitly says he's not going easy.

I can give you that: Evidently they did a poor job out of it due to loose rules and effects with inconsistencies, but canon-wise no, he didn't go easy. No subtle (or otherwise) hints were given whatsoever about it anywhere that'd say otherwise. Therefore, it wasn't him throwing it away. In fact, right there they said that he'd be unable to leave if he didn't go all out. 

Again: No in-universe "went easy". It can be crappy planning from the author, but not in-universe.

 

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Appearances:Obelisk_the_Tormentor

 

Actually, its still a quick effect, the effect apparently inflicts 4000 damage to the opponent however every single damn time that someone used obelisk's effect to tribute two monsters on screen his attack changed to ∞