Yuuji Kazami Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Pendulum Effect: If a Pendulum Monster you control attacks, it cannot be destroyed by that battle, also you take no battle damage from that attack. At the end of the Damage Step, if a Pendulum Monster you control attacked: All monsters your opponent currently controls lose ATK equal to that monster's current ATK until the end of this turn (even if this card leaves the field). 1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner Synchro Monsters Monster Effect: For this card's Synchro Summon, you can treat 1 Pendulum Summoned Pendulum Monster you control as the Tuner. If this card is Synchro Summoned using a Pendulum Summoned Pendulum Monster as the Tuner: You can target 1 card in your Graveyard; add it to your hand. When this card destroys an opponent's monster by battle: You can halve your opponent's LP. If this card in the Monster Zone is destroyed by battle or card effect: You can place it in your Pendulum Zone. 6 f***ing different effects. Good thing we don't have anything to PS this bastard back from the Extra Deck... Oh wait. Pendulum Reborn. -_- Small loan of a million dollars, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Idgi It's perfectly fine. It's overkill a lot of the time, but it gives more incentive to Nobledragon Magician (7 + Lizardraw/Parrotrio) and Trump Girl (Ignister/Omega), while also being solid. It's not astounding, but it works, and it's not bullshit at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Halving the opponent's LP is kinda dumb, and it's pretty much better than the other prominent retrieval cards like DMoC and Paladin Look on the bright side, atleast Konami demolished the major engine of Pals, Dracos, Mages, and Magicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuji Kazami Posted March 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 But the fact is that you can still Pendulum Reborn this assdsdfghjklsdf jabroni. Not only that, it can return ANY card from your Graveyard to your hand. Raigeki x2, Twin Twister to ensure successful attack, etc. Basically, you can pretty much rape your opponent for atleast half their LP. Plus, there's still funking Odd-Eyes Meteorburst to bring this baka back from the Pendulum Zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 But the fact is that you can still Pendulum Reborn this assdsdfghjklsdf jabroni. Not only that, it can return ANY card from your Graveyard to your hand. Raigeki x2, Twin Twister to ensure successful attack, etc. Basically, you can pretty much rape your opponent for atleast half their LP. Plus, there's still funking Odd-Eyes Meteorburst to bring this baka back from the Pendulum Zone. cool your tits and watch your language, namely at the end Pendulum Reborn is mediocre, so who cares. Bringing a better pendulum back is better than something that should basically win the game on its own merits. If you're playing pendulum and had the resources to make this, the add back is pretty negligible. I guess you can add Odd-Eyes fusion or Raigeki back, but generally you'd just be returning the Ignister that helped to make this. Pendulums don't really run a lot of spells, and most of their monsters that hit the grave are intentional (though Joker is a fine add back), so overall, it's not stupidly strong as it looks. Twin Twister is a fine point, but... Not for gaming. Who runs battle traps in 2016? Hell, traps overall would be used sooner, so... Meteorburst getting this means... Not much? It's not bad, but is rather get an Odd-Eyes monster, Luster Pendulum, or Pendulum Sorcerer like that. Oh no, a battle reliant LP halve. The game is ruined. It's not like, provided you made this with Ignister, that you can probably game them anyways. And if you made this with a 7, this is still not ZOMG, it's just fine. This card incentivizes and rewards running 2 cars that were never quite good enough: Nobledragon Magician and Performapal Trump Girl. Neither are bad, this just further incentivizes them. And that's not a bad thing. This isn't some unfai monstrosity, and people are really overreacting. It's just a good card. It's not bullshit, traps don't make it better, and it's there. So don't lose your sheet over this, when TDIL has much more worthy stuff revealed,Not to mention stuff that isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Good thing we don't have anything to PS this bastard back from the Extra Deck... Pendulum Shift on PPal La Panda (S3->S10), La Panda's P-effect (S10 -> S11) But yeah, Peborn is more reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuji Kazami Posted March 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 "Pendulums don't really run a lot of spells" Are you kidding me? A 3300 beatstick is incapable of destroying a monster? Use Twin Twister, summon this SOB back, and recycle twisters again. If ridding your opponent' 4/5 of his backrow doesn't land a monster kill, then might as well as stop playing the game altogether. Also, Meterorburst is friggin Pendulum generic. Having 1 copy of nobledragon is more than enough. Wisdom/Odd Eyes land searches, and bringing out Meteorburst and a Level 7 makes Absolute, which speeds up the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 There's almost no reason to make this in the first place as your other plays are likely to give you more value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 There's almost no reason to make this in the first place as your other plays are likely to give you more value.It'll be pretty decent in OCG. Lot of power spells to snag there atleast...esp since PCall got limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 I think my favorite part is how Konami dismally stops printing towers, gives a boss that's respectable for the efforts... And all people do is jabroni. "Pendulums don't really run a lot of spells" Are you kidding me? A 3300 beatstick is incapable of destroying a monster? Use Twin Twister, summon this SOB back, and recycle twisters again. If ridding your opponent' 4/5 of his backrow doesn't land a monster kill, then might as well as stop playing the game altogether. Also, Meterorburst is friggin Pendulum generic. Having 1 copy of nobledragon is more than enough. Wisdom/Odd Eyes land searches, and bringing out Meteorburst and a Level 7 makes Absolute, which speeds up the engine.where did I say it won't kill a monster? I said NO ONE RUNS BATTLE TRAPS. As in they suck. As in Twin Teister doesn't actually make this resolve any more often. OG odd-eyes is slow, so the play can be coreagraphed, not to mention that you need another Level 3, because Noble can't go into this herself. Magicians are kinda shitty, at least for now. Ppal is where it's at, and even then, Limited joker makes Nobledragon worse. Luster + Trump Girl + 4 is better, and that case makes it more likely that you can win, anyway, by virtue of Ignister and whatever else you summoned instead of trump girl. Absolute sucks, Idk what you're on about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 I think my favorite part is how Konami dismally stops printing towers, gives a boss that's respectable for the efforts... And all people do is jabroni.I'm not jabroniing, I'm just saying that it's really good and it would have legitimate use in OCG...two different things mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 I funking love how weird this card is. Like... For this card's Synchro Summon, you can treat 1 Pendulum Summoned Pendulum Monster you control as the Tuner.This card is literally disregarding all possibility of actual Tuners, since it itself can be Summoned through it's own made-up Synchro Summoning method; I WANT TO SEE MORE CARDS LIKE THIS. Or at least, play around with similar ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 I'm not jabroniing, I'm just saying that it's really good and it would have legitimate use in OCG...two different things matei don't mean you I mean that a lot of people flip their sheet over this, despite it being the first non-Towers boss in ages, and it's not unmanageable at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuji Kazami Posted March 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 I think my favorite part is how Konami dismally stops printing towers, gives a boss that's respectable for the efforts... And all people do is b****. where did I say it won't kill a monster? I said NO ONE RUNS BATTLE TRAPS. As in they suck. As in Twin Teister doesn't actually make this resolve any more often. OG odd-eyes is slow, so the play can be coreagraphed, not to mention that you need another Level 3, because Noble can't go into this herself. Magicians are kinda shitty, at least for now. Ppal is where it's at, and even then, Limited joker makes Nobledragon worse. Luster + Trump Girl + 4 is better, and that case makes it more likely that you can win, anyway, by virtue of Ignister and whatever else you summoned instead of trump girl. Absolute sucks, Idk what you're on about.There's still more Odd-Eyes cards coming out, thanks to the manga. Also, nobody runs battle traps? That's a completely false statement. What the hell has the Barrier Statues been doing? Not only that, my Rocket/Traptrix deck devastated DN's Singles (Pre-Monarchs release) and I ran friggin battle traps alongside the Holes, Floodgates, and Reload. Made it to 11k rating that way. Battle traps do not suck. Quaking devastates Kozmos. Blazing burns away LP faster. Rippling is more devastating for all of them. Storming is useful in ridding the annoyance of BA cycling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 I funking love how weird this card is.Like...This card is literally disregarding all possibility of actual Tuners, since it itself can be Summoned through it's own made-up Synchro Summoning method; I WANT TO SEE MORE CARDS LIKE THIS. Or at least, play around with similar ideas.I mean we have cards that can treat other monster as tuners. I think throwing this clause more often makes contact synchs a thing...dunno if that's healthyI funking love how weird this card is.Like...This card is literally disregarding all possibility of actual Tuners, since it itself can be Summoned through it's own made-up Synchro Summoning method; I WANT TO SEE MORE CARDS LIKE THIS. Or at least, play around with similar ideas.I mean we have cards that can treat other monster as tuners. I think throwing this clause more often makes contact synchs a thing...dunno if that's healthyi don't mean you I mean that a lot of people flip their sheet over this, despite it being the first non-Towers boss in ages, and it's not unmanageable at all.I will say I'm a little bothered by this and Twin Twister existing at 3 in the same format, but that's more TT's fault than this cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 There's still more Odd-Eyes cards coming out, thanks to the manga. Also, nobody runs battle traps? That's a completely false statement. What the hell has the Barrier Statues been doing? Not only that, my Rocket/Traptrix deck devastated DN's Singles (Pre-Monarchs release) and I ran friggin battle traps alongside the Holes, Floodgates, and Reload. Made it to 11k rating that way. Battle traps do not suck. Quaking devastates Kozmos. Blazing burns away faster. Rippling is more devastating for all of them. Storming is useful in ridding the annoyance of BA cycling.No one good runs battle traps. That better? DN singles at low levels proves nothing. Nevermind that that deck sounds terrible. 1.1k sounds like less of an exaggeration. Battle traps do suck. They're too slow, and they don't actually solve all the problems. Get with the times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuji Kazami Posted March 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 No one good runs battle traps. That better? DN singles at low levels proves nothing. Nevermind that that deck sounds terrible. 1.1k sounds like less of an exaggeration. Battle traps do suck. They're too slow, and they don't actually solve all the problems. Get with the times.DN singles at low levels? Missed a decimal, but 1.1k is what I obviously meant. I stopped playing singles since monarchs release, so making 1.1k at that time in DN wasn't any small feat. Besides, if I did use one of my decks right now, I would like to see you outplay me on DN, if you're so confident about your level. Apparently no one "good" runs battle traps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 DN singles at low levels? Missed a decimal, but 1.1k is what I obviously meant. I stopped playing singles since monarchs release, so making 1.1k at that time in DN wasn't any small feat. Besides, if I did use one of my decks right now, I would like to see you outplay me on DN, if you're so confident about your level.DN doesn't matter. You're looking at this wrong however, because you DO have a point. Twin Twister (less so HFD)+this can end games due to shutting down ALL backrow. The problem however is that, that situation is Twister's fault, not this card's. In a format with backrow at good values+twin limited, this card would be meh due to the effort of laddering and suffering -'s at the hands of something as simple as evac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 1.1k rating is like shooting fish in a bucket. Just requires consistent playing, cause low levels are sheet. Also, you're really losing your points here. How does a SINGLE prove anything, first off? That's not remotely concrete evidence, which hurts the DN point even more. How does challenging me to a game help you? "If I win I'm right!!!"... Is this the anime? Your points aren't proven by beating me. It doesn't change that battle traps aren't played, and traps as a whole aren't amazing, barring BA (unsure just how many), PK, or the occasional Ariadne build. How does arguing me about battle traps refute any argument I've made about why the card the topic is about isn't broken as fuxk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuji Kazami Posted March 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 DN doesn't matter. You're looking at this wrong however, because you DO have a point. Twin Twister (less so HFD)+this can end games due to shutting down ALL backrow. The problem however is that, that situation is Twister's fault, not this card. In a format with backrow at good values+twin limited, this card would be meh due to the effort of ladderingWtf. Tell that to Dark Magician of Chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Wtf. Tell that to Dark Magician of Chaos.DMoC is amazing in the right decks, and has a rather high chance of being limited in the near future even post errata if they ever release Construct or if DM support in TDIL is at nuts as it looks. This card needs a SYNCHRO as material. So you need to offset a -2 for starters, so this cards effect can offset a -1. K Still have to go through an intermediate step to get there. DMoC is good in any format because all you need to do is sac two rando fucks, not something specific E-Paladin is a closer comparison...oh wait...that's seen literally 0 play...even after Ignister got limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuji Kazami Posted March 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 1.1k rating is like shooting fish in a bucket. Just requires consistent playing, cause low levels are s***. Also, you're really losing your points here. How does a SINGLE prove anything, first off? That's not remotely concrete evidence, which hurts the DN point even more. How does challenging me to a game help you? "If I win I'm right!!!"... Is this the anime? Your points aren't proven by beating me. It doesn't change that battle traps aren't played, and traps as a whole aren't amazing, barring BA (unsure just how many), PK, or the occasional Ariadne build. How does arguing me about battle traps refute any argument I've made about why the card the topic is about isn't broken as fuxk?You just literally said nobody "good" runs battle traps. That's pretty much outright declaring that I'm a shitty player for running them. Singles are more reliant on running battle traps, because people side in Twin Twister and such in Match. I only talked about this for the purpose of battle traps. The card is still broken because it can target anything in the Graveyard on the Summon. With its additional effects, it's just hurting the game more. Especially with halving LP because that effect isn't any small deal to be ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 You just literally said nobody "good" runs battle traps. That's pretty much outright declaring that I'm a shitty player for running them. Yes, you are. *Unless you're playing Yosenju and running Water Force.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuji Kazami Posted March 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Yes, you are. *Unless you're playing Yosenju and running Water Force.. Being so confident, I'll run a few in a deck that aren't those 2 archetypes. Want to play and see how that turns out, if I apparently am a shitty player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Being so confident, I'll run a few in a deck that aren't those 2 archetypes. Want to play and see how that turns out, if I apparently am a shitty player? Sure, OCG you vs me. I'm finding it hard to justify traps such as Compuls and Solemn J, you're telling me sheet like Mirror Force is gonna be good *smh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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