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Prove that you're in agreement. Because as it stands, the majority of people have no funking idea what they're talking about and just see X debating with Y. Dislike X, therefore Y.

 

The PC thread, may it burn in hell for ages, showed this pretty clearly despite all it's cringeworthyness 

 

I see what you mean but really is there that big of a difference if all thats gonna happen is 5+ posts regurgitating the same point over and over again. If you genuinely dont understand whats going on and are just siding with people simply because of like/dislike factor then that can be an issue ill admit.

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JS, I rep posts in TCG because they present their points well, regardless of whose side they are on. Nice tinfoil hat though.

 

As for the actual funking topic, I am not wolf nor sheep, I gotta side with moog here. Slotting people into two groups where apparently both sides are wrong is silly. I hate to say it, Ryan, but this feels like bait for the exact conversation happening right now.

Technically the point was that the words we use to describe people are stupid.

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And you know this... how?

 

This word is mine funking fite me IRL

How about we compromise and I cite you? :3

 

Because they dig their own hole and prove that they know nothing on the topic? I didn't want to call out names, but take the plushfire topic again. A person that was neither Black nor me brought up a point that had already been addressed multiple times. And stated that as their argument. If you can't read...don't pollute the thread by throwing in blind support for an argument you understand nothing about.

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I'm talking in a strong rhetoric recently Mugen, because if we keep ignoring the problems, and sweep it under the rug. Someone is going to ACT in a strong Rhetoric, tell me which do you prefer?

 

Let me get this straight, are you warning me about the dangers of actions in a text based forum where talk is the main weapon?

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How about we compromise and I cite you? :3

 

Because they dig their own hole and prove that they know nothing on the topic? I didn't want to call out names, but take the plushfire topic again. A person that was neither Black nor me brought up a point that had already been addressed multiple times. And stated that as their argument. If you can't read...don't pollute the thread by throwing in blind support for an argument you understand nothing about.

So do you want them to repeat the point they agree with, or rep? You are contradicting yourself.

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Let me get this straight, are you warning me about the dangers of actions in a text based forum where talk is the main weapon?

Kinda, I'm trying to bring up a topic that most people are willing to sweep under the rug because it's icky to talk about and can lead to hurt feelingz 

 

(I assume when you were talking about Rhetoric, it was w/ regards to immigration? or Daesh? or PC?)

 

I care a bit about these issues, but there are certainly a vast majority who care about it a lot more. Pretending they don't exist wont fix anything.

 

But yes, I'm debating this on a children's card game site...so who gives a funk right? 

 

Valid point

So do you want them to repeat the point they agree with, or rep? You are contradicting yourself.

No, I want them to explain why they posted an argument that has been addressed with, then proceed to go silent if questioned on it

 

Basically, stop being sheepish, if you disagree, funk it. It might be similar to what someone already said, but at the very least reiterate it. If you want to go above the average expand upon it...is it really to much to ask for you to have an open mind?

 

For example, deadpool you repped me. Why. What was it that I said in that post that made you want to do so? If you can't answer those questions you should take said rep back

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The "silent repping" on its own is nothing. But the intentions are noticeable. Rather than people thinking "oh I agree with him, I'll rep him" it becomes more of a "we will show him in numbers" type of thing. For instance I don't agree with like 90% of Winter's views, but when I see these people "going after him" I don't rep anyone that's calling him out but rather rep views that I agree with and yes that includes those that argue against his points. I even rep Winter when I agree with him when he argues a point and I don't rep him when he puts a guy on the spotlight rather than discussing the topic at hand. Like the posts that are repped are along the lines of specifically calling the member out rather than disagreeing with the members viewpoints. But that's just my take, one may see it differently. Even so it isn't significant of a problem enough to be brought major attention to but it is worth noting.

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People are passive aggressive on the internet? No funking way.

 

I'm unaware of this whole "silent rep" phenomenon, largely because I feel as if I'm a funking sane person. Though the fact that people would do some weird sheet like that on this forum doesn't surprise me due to the sheer amount of passive aggressive bastards that dwell around here. Seriously though, I still can't comprehend why or how people can feel visceral hatred towards kids on a forum and secretly spite them for months. 

 

I was going to post on topic but when I read about this rep shenanigans I was literally baffled, who actually does this sheet. 

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I don't really say this to people, but sheep annoy me. Why? Because a lot of them take the archetype to an extreme and literally try to be carbon copies of things. And more often then not, they are just trying too hard to be something they aren't. Like, it's fine to try and do something like someone else, but you should use it as inspiration to make it your own thing, and not a direct copy-paste, since you should still try and do things your own way, but with the knowledge you've taken in from the source material. It helps things grow in a more spontaneous manner and provides much healthier methods of doing things/etc.

 

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But what do I know, I'm just some dumbass.

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The reason I rep posts without posting in the thread is because I'm a f***ing lazy c***.

 

Like, I don't care enough to type out a post 90% of the time, and I only do it when I actually have something substantial to add to the discussion.

 

Like, I wasn't even going to post this. It seems so pointless, you know?

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In simplest terms. 

 

If you cannot objectively justify why you agree with someone, your first instinct shouldn't be to rep them based on who they are or who they're arguing again. It should be to find out why you cannot agree with them.

 

A fascinating thought experiment would be to remove all the names and just have posts be anon. That would really force out any personal subjective bias and focus on issues

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People are passive aggressive on the internet? No funking way.

 

I'm unaware of this whole "silent rep" phenomenon, largely because I feel as if I'm a funking sane person. Though the fact that people would do some weird sheet like that on this forum doesn't surprise me due to the sheer amount of passive aggressive bastards that dwell around here. Seriously though, I still can't comprehend why or how people can feel visceral hatred towards kids on a forum and secretly spite them for months. 

 

I was going to post on topic but when I read about this rep shenanigans I was literally baffled, who actually does this sheet. 

Not many people actually do it, that's the thing. Birdy's post was a god send. That's exactly it, there's many reasons people rep without posting.

What's happening here it seems like is the people who usually are being "silent repped against" are assuming people are only doing so to "win with numbers"

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Stop taking reps so damn personal and serious. I've repped a long and well thought out post about serious subjects, and a cute cat picture, within the same hour. A rep is just "I like this" Which is literally what the button says. That's all it is, stop making a mountain out of a puddle.

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The reason I rep posts without posting in the thread is because I'm a f***ing lazy c***.

 

Like, I don't care enough to type out a post 90% of the time, and I only do it when I actually have something substantial to add to the discussion.

 

Like, I wasn't even going to post this. It seems so pointless, you know?

If only everyone was like you Birdy :/

Not many people actually do it, that's the thing. Birdy's post was a god send. That's exactly it, there's many reasons people rep without posting.

What's happening here it seems like is the people who usually are being "silent repped against" are assuming people are only doing so to "win with numbers"

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Stop taking reps so damn personal and serious. I've repped a long and well thought out post about serious subjects, and a cute cat picture, within the same hour. A rep is just "I like this" Which is literally what the button says. That's all it is, stop making a mountain out of a puddle.

That would be valid if Bird was the norm and not the exception. None of this is personal. If 300 people like a post that says the black people are inferior, suddenly that post looks like it has merit when the post disagreeing has nothing. It gives a false perception is is unhealthy to have in a society where a good number of people are ruled on their emotion and not their wit

 

Anyway, this is all pretty pointless, YCM has like a 1000 regular members at tops? If we're all unified in everyway...we're still insignificant in the greater scale. 

 

So yeh, I'm taking this more seriously than I should

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If only everyone was like you Birdy :/

That would be valid if Bird was the norm and not the exception. None of this is personal. If 300 people like a post that says the black people are inferior, suddenly that post looks like it has merit when the post disagreeing has nothing. It gives a false perception is is unhealthy to have in a society where a good number of people are ruled on their emotion and not their wit

You like to go to extremes. 300 people, for the most part here, won't like a post like that, so that doesn't matter.

If someone reps it generally they agree/think it's well said. It DOES have merit, to those people. We're going in circles now because you refuse to accept that maybe the reason certain posts get a lot of reps is because the post has a good point to many people.

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The reason I rep posts without posting in the thread is because I'm a f***ing lazy c***.

 

Like, I don't care enough to type out a post 90% of the time, and I only do it when I actually have something substantial to add to the discussion.

 

Like, I wasn't even going to post this. It seems so pointless, you know?

Not many people actually do it, that's the thing. Birdy's post was a god send. That's exactly it, there's many reasons people rep without posting.

What's happening here it seems like is the people who usually are being "silent repped against" are assuming people are only doing so to "win with numbers"

More/less...

 

Stop taking reps so damn personal and serious. I've repped a long and well thought out post about serious subjects, and a cute cat picture, within the same hour. A rep is just "I like this" Which is literally what the button says. That's all it is, stop making a mountain out of a puddle.

 

No I absolutely understand repping cause someone already said everything you were pretty much gonna say and you're a lazy jabroni, trust me I love when someone already does the work for me. 

 

But the way this kid's setting it up, apparently there are people who go around repping with the sole intent to make the person getting argued at feel as if they're being ganged up on. If people are actually doing that, literally do something better with your life m8. 

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But the way this kid's setting it up, apparently there are people who go around repping with the sole intent to make the person getting argued at feel as if they're being ganged up on. If people are actually doing that, literally do something better with your life m8. 

I agree. If people are actually doing it. But there's like, no proof it happens at all. It's all assumption. That's my point here. I had no idea people even thought this was a thing until now.

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So, I dunno what I'd be considered. I am definitely more other-oriented and would continually please others, even at the cost of myself. However, I hate group (mob) mentality and usually think things through differently/come up with some odd thoughts.

 

In response to the rep stuff... I'm completely rep-blind as I use mobile. If I see a post that I find I like, whether because it's silly, or the person articulated their thoughts well, or I agree with what they're saying (pretty rare. See what I said about group mentality before), I rep it. I don't really care who else has repped it.

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For the OP's question:

 

I'm not gonna do something as silly as categorize myself in one of two incredibly broad categories where a lot of variables can determine how one feels about the subject. I see what others say/post and I draw my own conclusions based on my own judgment, then compare it to others. Though, generally speaking, I enjoy going the exact opposite way of the norm just for the lulz. Doing the reverse of common sense makes me happy.

 

silly toyo mode activate

 

for the um silent rep thing

 

when i rep something it's because i found it kek-worthy so i kekked to it and pressed the like button. i dont rep posts i agree with unless they make me kek, so if i were to elaborate on why i repped something every time i repped i would be swamped with warnings for s h i t p o s t i n g

 

that, and like birdie, i too am a lazy funk =w=

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If you have an issue with people taking sides, maybe you should work on phrasing things so it doesn't become an argument of sides every damn time. 

 

Because you know between remarks about the TCG, about Liberals, about being PC, about 'the YCM rep squad', and all the other wonderful ways you try to separate yourself from everyone else here, you always manage to make discussions more personal than they need to be. Take this; You start the discussion in such a way that's implying everyone who isn't 'a wolf' is a piece of sheet. 

 

To paraphrase something here 'If you constantly find yourself surrounded by arseholes, maybe you should look at your own behaviour', maybe if you stopped deliberately creating antagonising arguments, you wouldn't have this 'silent rep' issue. 

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It seems far more likely that people rep posts disagreeing with you because they actually disagree with you

We're not in disagreement over this statement, but rather where the emphasis is merited in it

 

Basically, it's all too personal is what I'm saying

If you have an issue with people taking sides, maybe you should work on phrasing things so it doesn't become an argument of sides every damn time. 

 

Because you know between remarks about the TCG, about Liberals, about being PC, about 'the YCM rep squad', and all the other wonderful ways you try to separate yourself from everyone else here, you always manage to make discussions more personal than they need to be. Take this; You start the discussion in such a way that's implying everyone who isn't 'a wolf' is a piece of sheet. 

 

To paraphrase something here 'If you constantly find yourself surrounded by arseholes, maybe you should look at your own behaviour', maybe if you stopped deliberately creating antagonising arguments, you wouldn't have this 'silent rep' issue. 

Huhn, cause I can think of four silent reppers off the top of my mind, two of them, atleast in the past, where overwhelmingly in support of me. It's not personal at all mate. It doesn't matter who does it and for which "side" 

 

It gives artificial weight to a discussion that shouldn't necessarily be there.

 

But by what y'all are saying. I should be able to ask anyone of these silent reps to defend his/her life and they would be able to do it, yes?

 

Again, please stop trying to demonify me here. For all your claims about how I target one side over the other, you happily ignore how critical I am of OCG, the Right, the Right's policies and all the other wonderful ways I am similar to everyone else here.

 

And I will end by wondering, didn't I confess that I too was a sheep? This is some deep self-loathing circlejerk apperently

Sheep ought to let themselves be led by better and grander thinkers. There's no gain to following someone who can't think and the wolf would do well considering they don't care to think like the sheep.

Sheep ought to realize that they're sheep

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