Slinky Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Winter is being dumb again.Saying a card is broken, means you're already sure of the devastating impact the card will have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQuitDolphin Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Winter is being dumb again.Saying a card is broken, means you're already sure of the devastating impact the card will have. Winter isn't AznEyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Winter is being dumb again.Saying a card is broken, means you're already sure of the devastating impact the card will have.Life Equalizer is broken...took 10 years for that to show, life equalizer is not good cause it took -6 years to show and show'd in one deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 That's adorable, but Absorption is useless outside of This card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQuitDolphin Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Run 3. Gain 15000 LP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENMaker Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 That's adorable, but Absorption is useless outside of This card. Them Inferno Tempest Lava Golem decks though. Don't know how they win but they do that play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Them Inferno Tempest Lava Golem decks though. Don't know how they win but they do that play. *Grinder Golem OT: this card looks fun to use and I will probably try it in everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 It's exactly what he means: You banish 10 and then draw 2, and those 2 draws will be pretty worthless if all your other good s*** got banished. ex. Draw into Decatron -- Banish all Infernoidsex. Draw into Pend Sorc -- banish all DracosWhat the hell are you talking about How is the rest of your deck worse than what you banish Are u purposefully building your deck without playing as many good cards as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Like you can name all these random ass scenarios or "banished my brilliant fusion/terraforming/rota targets" horror stories but the fact of the matter is that the next 10 cards of your deck are no longer resources to begin with, you are stuck with what you have in your opening hand and you can't expect to draw into those 10 cards if any key cards are in there because grind games no longer exist in 2016 If you can't access them with your opening hand they don't matter to begin with No one freaks out when they end a duel without seeing the last 20 cards of their deck or whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQuitDolphin Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 ex #1 - Infernoids get a draw 2 or something, they have the possibility of banishing the majority of their possible Infernoid targets, and they're not retrievable off anything that I know of. Decatron will have less targets and you have less fodder in general.ex #2 - Performapal lose the majority of their possible engine, banishing Face-Offs, Dracoslayers, you name it. If you summon Pend Sorc and add stuff, if the majority of your deck (and possible targets) are banished, what are you going to fetch? If Luster Pendulum gets banished, you lose Ignister access, and losing your Joker, Monkeyboard, Silver Claw, etc. invalidates any of the searchers you may draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Those examples are bad since you are basically cherry picking awful outcomes, read my above post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 The point he's making it you might have well not seen them at all. So whats the point of having them in the deck when you could potentially get a +1 off trading away a resource you wont use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 The point he's making it you might have well not seen them at all. So whats the point of having them in the deck when you could potentially get a +1 off trading away a resource you wont usethis is exactly correct. This is why the card would be sheet in pendulum or PK. With those, you really do have access to pretty much any card in your deck, so this burns through fuel. Otherwise, it is just drawing two cards in a way that appears to be costly. Tbh this is just proving my original point about how the mindset of yugioh players prevents grasping why this is so good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Would it be fair to say that this card is better in TCG than it would be in OCG? Cause fewer limited "power" cards you don't want to lose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Would it be fair to say that this card is better in TCG than it would be in OCG? Cause fewer limited "power" cards you don't want to lose?This card's cost only really matters if you have fucktons of one-ofs you need, and OCG list is much more limit-centric than TCG, so yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 And like Pendulums and such wouldn't want to use this for the above stated reason, the same is true for Infernoids. Obviously you wont put this in Infernoids because you can and hope to use most of your deck's resources via Reasoning and other such nonsense. But in decks that dont search terribly often and/or search for thigns they run 3 of anyway, the card will be great the majority of the time. EVEN IF youre playing a deck that with lots of search, you can easily do all your searches your opening hand has to offer, and THEN Cupidity. After that point you'd be topdecking anyway, no reason to not get a head start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 This card is a joke. Banish TEN FACE DOWN for a measly 2 draws? TEN T E N TEN 1/4th of your deck You'd have to be smoking something to legit think this is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 This card is a joke. Banish TEN FACE DOWN for a measly 2 draws? TEN T E N TEN 1/4th of your deck You'd have to be smoking something to legit think this is good.Just out of curiosity, have you read previous posts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 I mean, I'll give that it's not very "2016 YGO"-minded, but it's a good card. Banishing 10 cards you'd be too slow to see means jack sheet. The only deck that it seems Astounding in is Shiranui, and that's because it finds your Sword by banishing it (hopefully, if you didn't draw foolish in addition to Sage access) as well as renewing resources that normally need Omega to return. It's not really different than milling. You wouldn't see those cards anyway, so who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 I mean just for shiggles I've been testing Soul Absorption in shiranui running this. In all honesty, there's a lot more effects in Shiranui that proc Absorption than I initially thought, but It's very, very difficult for your opponent to actually do something once you set up Omega and then gain 5k and draw 2 (which only needs 3 cards to begin with) It's pretty hilarious tbh. I've had duels where ive literally gained 45000 life by the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Konami could pretty easily rule that Omega can't bring them back ya know "neat" OCG deck surfaced of using Soul Ab to get multiple shots outs of Cyber Stein...seem inconsistent to me thoug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Konami could pretty easily rule that Omega can't bring them back ya know "neat" OCG deck surfaced of using Soul Ab to get multiple shots outs of Cyber Stein...seem inconsistent to me thougThat's not how rulings work. It's already a precedent that face-down cards in YGO can be interacted with by cards that only care about their physical state (A card) or their final location (IE: Fusing a set monster you control, but its type/etc. is known in the grave). They would have to change the wording of this, because there is no reason that Omega/etc. would not work. Also, Burial from a DD is a lot better in the Omega context. It lets you expend all your Mezuki/etc., then you get FD stuff back with Omega while this lets you skip using Omega on face-up cards, which is effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 That's not how rulings work. It's already a precedent that face-down cards in YGO can be interacted with by cards that only care about their physical state (A card) or their final location (IE: Fusing a set monster you control, but its type/etc. is known in the grave). They would have to change the wording of this, because there is no reason that Omega/etc. would not work. Also, Burial from a DD is a lot better in the Omega context. It lets you expend all your Mezuki/etc., then you get FD stuff back with Omega while this lets you skip using Omega on face-up cards, which is effective.A lot of people, including an admin, seemed to think I was incorrect in my assumption that Omega COULD work. If seemingly everyone is against you, there might be some merit in the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 A lot of people, including an admin, seemed to think I was incorrect in my assumption that Omega COULD work. If seemingly everyone is against you, there might be some merit in the opposition.Nah just most people are idiots/wrong lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Makes me wonder with cards like this and Toon kingdom if Konami is going to develop further interaction with face-down banish cards with card effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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