Kirika Akatsuki Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Forbidden:Performapal MonkeyboardLavalval ChainLife EqualizerNewly Limited:SanganThousand-Eyes RestrictDante, Traveler of the Burning AbyssScarm, Malebranche of the Burning AbyssPerformapal Skullcrobat JokerIgnister Prominence, the Blasting DracoslayerPerformapal Pendulum SorcererDraco Face-OffWavering EyesLuster Pendulum, the DracoslayerMask Change SecondTour Guide from the UnderworldEmergency TeleportDomain of the True MonarchsPantheism of the MonarchsPendulum CallReasoningMonster GateNewly Semi-Limited:Super RejuvenationUnlimited:Glow-Up BulbKuribanditDestiny Hero – MaliciousMermail AbyssteusMind ControlBook of MoonGold SarcophagusAllure of DarknessDragon ShrineCrush Card VirusSangan’s been Errataed:SanganThe effect of “Sangan” can only be used once per turn. (1) When this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard: Add 1 monster with 1500 or less ATK from your Deck to your hand. {If you add a monster to your hand with this effect, you cannot activate the effects of monsters with the same name during that turn.} https://ygorganization.com/ocg-v-jump-april-2016-limit-regulation/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Man they funked up (as in destroyed) a lot. Those bans are crazy good though ngl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 I would no t be he guy I am if I supported the Lavaval chain ban. Was dumb then, is dumb now. Wow the Dante limit is amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Man they funked up (as in destroyed) a lot. Those bans are crazy good though nglThey eradicated the top 4 decks. Lol ravine still limited >Norden banned, best IF target unbanned Let the chaos start From the top: Life Equalizer-great banMonkey- knee jerk over-kill not at all neededChain-why though, Harbinger was run more than nat beast and infernity suck Sangan-still too goodTER-will be interesting to see how instant fusion's usage rises thanks to this, potentially a little too good since it DOES stop the battle phaseDante- Ritual BA is a deck, they have never needed more than 1 Dante, and now you don't need to make bad hits like cir and graffTGU-looks like ritual BA and searching for Djinn is out tooDracopals hits- good put them down for good. Monarchs- personally think that Stomr4th was the right hit and not these, but I'll live Tele- Monarch/PK hit that will hopefully come to TCG Pendulum calls is like "why" Insight already got limited Gate+Reasoning=final infernoid hits. Now they'll have to run sheet like card trooper Rejuv-dunno if it will be enough for blue eyes GUB: 1=3Bandit: Solemn Notice made it sheetMALI: FINALLY, ban chain make beatrice more live? I can get behind thisTeus is matching TCGControl and Moon getting 3'd after being in basically every side deck shocks me, but guess they want more variationSarc is trashAllure to 3 shocks me, but monarch ftk is gone I suppose. Tele DAD was so close to being a thing Shrine is great for Blue Eyes Games @3..knew Construct bae wasn't gonna come back and finally CCV is irrelevant now that BA got all it's targets hammered in the knee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexanort Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 BEST....BANLIST....EVER Monkeyboard....Check, Pantheism...Check, E-Tele...Check, Reasoning....Check they hit everything i wanted to get hit ^^....well time to play with this list (after ygopro updated it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 BEST....BANLIST....EVER Monkeyboard....Check, Pantheism...Check, E-Tele...Check, Reasoning....Check they hit everything i wanted to get hit ^^....well time to play with this list (after ygopro updated it)It's a good banlist. Not sure if Chain or Monkey were good bans however Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Holy sheet they went balls off the wall on this banlist. It's the OCG's version of killing everything...though somethings might not seem too appreciable. Decks I predict having an impact after the list:-Super Quantums -Majespecter-Neutered Dracopal-Shaddoll-Ritual BA-Blue-Eyes/Felgrand-Merlantean-Phantom Knight/BA/Speedroid-D/D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Holy sheet they went balls off the wall on this banlist. It's the OCG's version of killing everything...though somethings might not seem too appreciable. Decks I predict having an impact after the list:-Super Quantums -Majespecter-Neutered Dracopal-Shaddoll-Ritual BA-Blue-Eyes/Felgrand-Merlantean-Phantom Knight/BA/Speedroid-Nekroz Added Nekroz, I can see Raid Raptors being good too. I somehow doubt Dracopals will be good anymore. Magicans, Pals, Mages, and Dracos all got gutted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Avian Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Ouch. I hope we don't get 1 Pantheism. That hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Ouch. I hope we don't get 1 Pantheism. That hurts.Pot of Greed was the last +1 draw card by itself to exist mate. The card was unhealthy af. They should have limited stormforth as well tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 This list... If TCG follows suit, then my infernoids and monarchs are gonna have a bit of a harder time in matches. but really, i can't criticize it, It's the kind of list that people hope the TCG would one day adopt. i'm picking up a couple super rejuvenation's while they're still low, just in case. and i've already got 2 thousand eyes ready just in case he ever came off (that day might come son!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Just Realized...Sinister Shadow Games is STILL at 2 Geddon moving to 2 was a pipe dream No excuse for MoF or Goyo yet again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragulas Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Forbidden:Performapal Monkeyboard: I really like how Pepe, Dracopals worked, but that doesnt change the fact that i despise pendulums, for all i care, buuurn!Lavalval Chain: I did cry and complain its banning in TCG, time gave Komoney the reason with this card, still dont know how this was abused OCG.Life Equalizer: f*** FTKs, though they could hit magical explosion too, and RML still free to find a new FTK eventually.Newly Limited:Sangan: Errated, could come back without it thoughThousand-Eyes Restrict: After all this years, finallyDante, Traveler of the Burning Abyss: A Semi-limit was fine, this kills BA because of the other hitsScarm, Malebranche of the Burning AbyssPerformapal Skullcrobat Joker: Don like to compare cards but stratos si limited/banned for a reasonIgnister Prominence, the Blasting Dracoslayer: And they dont even have kozmo, too good and fair hitPerformapal Pendulum Sorcerer: LOOOOL, Seriously the card was a potential +4, destroying pendulums is never neg. Draco Face-Off: They really want to slay the slayersWavering Eyes: About timeLuster Pendulum, the Dracoslayer: With ignister and face off limited i think this wasnt necesarry, still better safe than sorryMask Change Second: Dark law tech hate? (i dont follow the ocg that much, so i asume thats the reason)Tour Guide from the Underworld: To match the TCG list, and fair hit to their main engineEmergency Teleport: Again they dont even have kozmo so is Quantum morachs to good to make this limit worthy or im missing something?Domain of the True Monarchs: Dont know if it was the right hit but still, f*** monarchsPantheism of the Monarchs: Again f*** monarchs and f*** one of the dumbest cards i ve ever seenPendulum Call: Wisdom eye is limited, but with all the previous hits i guess konami realized they boosted pendulums too much...or they will just release something worstReasoning /Monster Gate: I asume left arm offering have something to doNewly Semi-Limited:Super Rejuvenation: Rulers have been gone for almost (if not already) a year, great boost or tech for felgrand blue-eyesUnlimited:Glow-Up BulbKuribanditDestiny Hero – MaliciousMermail AbyssteusMind Control/Book of Moon: As for the released cards only this 2 caught my attention, i dont think someone will waist side space on 3 of these thoughGold SarcophagusAllure of DarknessDragon ShrineCrush Card Virus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 mind control is the only card on the entire list that might be a miss imo. i know you can't swing with the monster you take, but there's a lot of other things that you can do with them, and it still makes room for your other monsters to swing. not sure if it'll mean anything in the long run, but it'll be interesting to keep an eye out for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 MC2 is a staple in every BA deck and basically every Phantom Knight deck. Law Beatrice is the OCG opening version of Double Dante set Firelake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Avian Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Pot of Greed was the last +1 draw card by itself to exist mate. The card was unhealthy af. They should have limited stormforth as well tbhIt's more like Destiny Draw with a potential search than a pot. The thing with hitting this is it makes bricks more consistent. Then again, OCG has always figured out the weird sheet so they can make it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 It's more like Destiny Draw with a potential search than a pot. The thing with hitting this is it makes bricks more consistent. Then again, OCG has always figured out the weird sheet so they can make it work.People are just playing the 15 ED version. Also Hip Hippo dude for the engine. They got triple allure now. They need to adapt is all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizardonx Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Pepe needed dragon ruler level hits to finally put down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Pepe needed dragon ruler level hits to finally put down.Dragon Rulers got spread out over 3-4 lists. The last time Konami went this agressive on a deck was after Star Seraph Shaddolls Konami's Shaddoll hate is clear as funk here. No relaxations on it haha. No dragonfly shocks me too, but maybe now Dino Rabbit can make a come back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 I think Pendulum is still most likely the best deck, the most significant hit is Draco Face-off but the deck still has access to Rescue Hamster/Unexpected Dai for Angel Trumpeter even at least compared to Monarch's lacking dominion lock and BA having their damage output severely reduced (and removal of Dark Law as a threat). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Banned CardsWow, murdering that Monkey Board where it stands. Life Equalizer probably had to go. RIP Chain. Limited CardsSangan's probably going to come back at more than 1 eventually. TER long overdue. RIP Burning Abyss. Skullcrobat joins his TCG friends. Ignister REALLY needed that hit. Pendulum Sorcerer too. Draco Face-Off maybe not. Finally smartened up on Wavering Eyes. Luster as expected. Mask Change II as not expected. TGU as expected. E-Tele as not expected; and more-so because it's used more in the TCG right now than it is in the OCG, but I guess this was a Monarch hit more than anything. Speaking of Monarch hits; RIP. Pendulum Call feels maybe a little extreme; especially when Wisdom Eye wasn't brought back. Reasoning/Gate as expected. Semi-Limited Cardspush dem Dragons!! Unlimited CardsYup, Yup, Yup, Sure, Ummm, Wait, Hold On, What are you doing, WAIT, STOP!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 I think Pendulum is still most likely the best deck, the most significant hit is Draco Face-off but the deck still has access to Rescue Hamster/Unexpected Dai for Angel Trumpeter even at least compared to Monarch's lacking dominion lock and BA having their damage output severely reduced (and removal of Dark Law as a threat).Maybe canibalize another deck? Like maybe Dinomist? The problem now is the pals (assuming that's what you mean th percent pendulums) don't have much to offer anyone. I see hamster being good, but I don't see pals being so, especially not with the finally punch of Monkey to 0---Lavaval chain is really sad. Now I can't even make an argument in TCG that OCG has it. Synchro heroes have my attention now though. 3 Mali, Triple allure. I also see a resurgence of DAEU decks, tellers, dolls, Kroz, and Qli won't be bad at all. This might be pushing it, but maybe even some of the 2012 quartet will return. CD/Hieratics got some power spells back. WU are at full force. Dino Rabbit got Sangan back. Inzektors :/Banned CardsWow, murdering that Monkey Board where it stands. Life Equalizer probably had to go. RIP Chain. Limited CardsSangan's probably going to come back at more than 1 eventually. TER long overdue. RIP Burning Abyss. Skullcrobat joins his TCG friends. Ignister REALLY needed that hit. Pendulum Sorcerer too. Draco Face-Off maybe not. Finally smartened up on Wavering Eyes. Luster as expected. Mask Change II as not expected. TGU as expected. E-Tele as not expected; and more-so because it's used more in the TCG right now than it is in the OCG, but I guess this was a Monarch hit more than anything. Speaking of Monarch hits; RIP. Pendulum Call feels maybe a little extreme; especially when Wisdom Eye wasn't brought back. Reasoning/Gate as expected. Semi-Limited Cardspush dem Dragons!! Unlimited CardsYup, Yup, Yup, Sure, Ummm, Wait, Hold On, What are you doing, WAIT, STOP!!What's wrong with Gold Sarc and Shrine? Shiranui and Blue Eyes are manageable decks. BA lost both their major CCV targets. I'd be suprised if they still run the standard 2 pre list, let alone 3 Lol@ Ravine@1Dragonfly@1Goyo@0MoF@0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Maybe canibalize another deck? Like maybe Dinomist? The problem now is the pals (assuming that's what you mean th percent pendulums) don't have much to offer anyone. I see hamster being good, but I don't see pals being so, especially not with the finally punch of Monkey to 0---Lavaval chain is really sad. Now I can't even make an argument in TCG that OCG has it. Synchro heroes have my attention now though. 3 Mali, Triple allure. I also see a resurgence of DAEU decks, tellers, dolls, Kroz, and Qli won't be bad at all. This might be pushing it, but maybe even some of the 2012 quartet will return. CD/Hieratics got some power spells back. WU are at full force. Dino Rabbit got Sangan back. Inzektors :/What's wrong with Gold Sarc and Shrine? Shiranui and Blue Eyes are manageable decks. BA lost both their major CCV targets. I'd be suprised if they still run the standard 2 pre list, let alone 3 Lol@ Ravine@1Dragonfly@1Goyo@0MoF@0 Gold Sarc and Shrine were more or less just adding to the joke. Crush Card isn't a card that I'm terribly comfortable coming back in full-time. I'm not sure if the main deck I'm thinking of will truly hit meta (D/D) but I do know that they can make a tidy use of CCV, and CCV itself can win a duel. Book of Moon is fine; but it's Mind Control that we'll see about. With Synchros, Xyz's, and soon Metalphosis, it's not gonna be hard for a deck to steal a monster with Mind Control and use it as a mat for something for easy peasy removal. Allure of Darkness, though... that's some instant draw power for all decks DARK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Infernoids can troop dupe Speaking of duplication, mind control + cyber Vally dupe :) Only deck that ran allure at 2 was Shaddolls, monarchs and BA might have to now, but we'llsee. OCG phantom Knights gonna be lit af Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Prom Fojo http://www.yugioh-card.com/japan/eve...regulation.php 遊戯王OCGにおいては過去に発売された全てのカードが使用可能であり、今後も新しいカード・商品が追加さ れていく、というゲームの環境下において慎重に検討しております。また、検討の際には、世界中のプレイヤーが遊んでいる事も十分に考慮に入れた上で行われます。適用される「禁止・制限・準制限カード」は基本的に以下の観点から選定していますが、恒久的なものではあり ません。 ゲームバランスを維持し、遊戯王OCG全体の活性化を促すプレイ環境を作り出す事デッキの選択肢やプレーの幅を広げる事デュエルの駆け引きの要素が激減するようなカード・コンボへの一定の規制プレイヤーが一方的に有利になる状況を作り出すカードへの一定の規制現状の環境下ではプレイヤーが対処・対策がしづらいカードについての一定の規制デュエルの進行に支障をきたすようなカードへの一定の規制大会での使用を考慮した際に、規制をかけるべきと判断されるカードへの規制 if you don't mind my possible ****ty translationBanlists are created with the following in mind 1. Game balance2. Promote diversity3. Reduce impact of combos that determine the direction of the duel4. Cards that are too advantageous to a player during a specific situation (such as going first)5. Cards that hinders the progression of duels too much (i guess Domain in this particular case)6. Cards that affect the flow/rule of the game (Victory Dragon) Essentially, scaling back both combo power, as well as things that hinders combos from going off. The goal is to develop the game in a long-term, sustainable method. btw Konami actually said this on the same page 今後も新しいカード・商品が追加されていく、というゲームの環境下において慎重に検討しており ます translation+ paragra phase "we'll be more careful about releasing new things in the future" (implying that they won't release broken things as much and possibly having slower power creep). How much you want to believe them is up to you though, but at least that announcement was made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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