Corrupted Legendary Dragon, Shadow Lugia

[Yuuji Kazami]

Took awhile to make this. Can anyone give me a better name for this guy that includes the Shadow Lugia part?

 

Shadow Lugia is also my favourite Pokemon. Name of the card has been changed, and ATK increased to 3500 to make it more appealing to use.

 

 

[spoiler=Original (Accidental Flop) Version]

 

 

 

 

Thoughts please.

[Dragulas]

Its a generic rank 4 (doesnt matter if it takes 3 monsters to make it), that can dodge destruction, attack multiple times, double its damage and pierce? and if that wasnt enought it punishes the opponent (usually) for trying to destroy it by battle? with 3000 atk?!

 

this monster is too OP, on its own, without materials its protected and still pierces, how is that fair?

[Kirika Akatsuki]

First, it's ATK is too high. Crazy Box is a 2 mat with 3000 ATK, but it can't attack, and its effects can backfire. Gagagigo the Risen needs 3 mats, only has 2950, and has no effect. Your card has 3000 ATK, can't be destroyed by card effects, and enables OTKs. Even with if it needs 3 materials, it's too powerful.

 

The game doesn't need a 3000 ATK destruction proof multiple-attacking piercer that inflicts double damage.

[Yuuji Kazami]

Originally meant to be 4 Level 4's. I guess i had forgotten to change it. 

 

Yikes, those warning points were harsh.

 

Well, considering that this would cost Rank 4 Spam pretty much all their resources to make this, then shouldn't they gain atleast some value back? Powerful, yes. Unstoppable? No. Besides, Lugia nukes both sides of the field. Pendulums suffer as well.

 

Well, I'll reply to both of you separately.

[Yuuji Kazami]

Its a generic rank 4 (doesnt matter if it takes 3 monsters to make it), that can dodge destruction, attack multiple times, double its damage and pierce? and if that wasnt enought it punishes the opponent (usually) for trying to destroy it by battle? with 3000 atk?!

 

this monster is too OP, on its own, without materials its protected and still pierces, how is that fair?

Eh, I missed that it was still 3. Should've been 4. Lol.

 

Well, time to stop trolling. But hey, I'm more of a designer, not an effect builder. Give me some cred for its look. XD

 

Sigh... Sakura got mad too. -.- Now I feel bad.

 

Mmm... Will also contemplate changing it to 4 Level 4 Water-Type instead.

 

Well, it's still susceptible to Veiler, Breakthrough Skill, Variation Mirror Forces, Castel, SIlent Honor Ark, Dark Rebellion Xyz Dragon, Acid Golem, Virgil, Burn/Stall decks, Fiendish Chain, Lose 1 Turn, Skill Drain, Monarchs Tribute, Karma Cut, Dimensional Fissure/Macro Cosmos, Phoenix Wing Wind Blast, Compulsory Evacuation Device, Damage Calculation cards.

 

Also, getting 4 Level 4s out takes some effort. Lugia nukes your side of the field as well.

[Yuuji Kazami]

First, it's ATK is too high. Crazy Box is a 2 mat with 3000 ATK, but it can't attack, and its effects can backfire. Gagagigo the Risen needs 3 mats, only has 2950, and has no effect. Your card has 3000 ATK, can't be destroyed by card effects, and enables OTKs. Even with if it needs 3 materials, it's too powerful.

 

The game doesn't need a 3000 ATK destruction proof multiple-attacking piercer that inflicts double damage.

Eh... Originally meant to be 4 Level 4's, but I guess I missed it. Lowered DEF to 0 in case there's more rage from everyone. XD 

 

But honestly. would it still be considered way too much when it requires 4 monsters? I mean, first turn Quasar invests in Quasar. The likelihood of getting this out on the first turn is much lower. Besides, Quasar can float. This guy just nukes.

[Kirika Akatsuki]

Eh... Originally meant to be 4 Level 4's, but I guess I missed it. Lowered DEF to 0 in case there's more rage from everyone. XD 

 

But honestly. would it still be considered way too much when it requires 4 monsters? I mean, first turn Quasar invests in Quasar. The likelihood of getting this out on the first turn is much lower. Besides, Quasar can float. This guy just nukes.

Defense doesn't matter. You're not going to summon this in defense. Only a few decks care about defense.

 

Turn 1 Quasar gives you a 4000 beater that can negate anything and floats into a 3300 beater that negates destruction. First turn this gives you a 3000 beater that doesn't die to destruction and nukes your field when it dies by battle, which isn't hard to do. Also, the decks that summon Quasar end up gaining advantage because Librarian is a thing.

 

Before it was overpowered, now it's not worth using.

[Yuuji Kazami]

Defense doesn't matter. You're not going to summon this in defense. Only a few decks care about defense.

 

Turn 1 Quasar gives you a 4000 beater that can negate anything and floats into a 3300 beater that negates destruction. First turn this gives you a 3000 beater that doesn't die to destruction and nukes your field when it dies by battle, which isn't hard to do. Also, the decks that summon Quasar end up gaining advantage because Librarian is a thing.

 

Before it was overpowered, now it's not worth using.

Erm... Assuming that you still feel that this is too OP? Even with 4 Level 4 requirement? This card only punishes swarm decks and Kozmos.

 

And Quasar is still being used on DN, lol. Saw it a fair bit of times. Just not as frequent as the past now that One to One is limited.

 

Only possibility of me seeing a first turn of this (5 cards) is Performapal monkeyboard fetch Joker, Normal Joker and add a scale, then PS 3 Level 4's if you can actually get a hand full of Level 4s. Of course, Draco face-off and wavering could be a factor in this as well.

[Kirika Akatsuki]

Erm... Assuming that you still feel that this is too OP? Even with 4 Level 4 requirements? This card only punishes swarm decks and Kozmos.

 

And Quasar is still being used on DN, lol. Saw it a fair bit of times. Just not as frequent as the past now that One to One is limited.

 

Before it was overpowered, now it's not worth using.

[Yuuji Kazami]

Oh, okay. Well, might as well as change its DEF back to 2500 then. =/

 

But depending on the circumstance, such as Tellars, it's possible to get a fourth Tellar out for this guy. ^_^

 

Btw, what did you think of the design though? That area is my main specialty. XD

[Kirika Akatsuki]

Oh, okay. Well, might as well as change its DEF back to 2500 then. =/

 

But depending on the circumstance, such as Tellars, it's possible to get a fourth Tellar out for this guy. ^_^

 

Btw, what did you think of the design though? That area is my main specialty. XD

Nutellas would rather go for Rhongobongo, unless for whatever reason the need to OTK through Ojama Trio.

[Dragulas]

Erm... Assuming that you still feel that this is too OP? Even with 4 Level 4 requirement? This card only punishes swarm decks and Kozmos.

 

And Quasar is still being used on DN, lol. Saw it a fair bit of times. Just not as frequent as the past now that One to One is limited.

 

Only possibility of me seeing a first turn of this (5 cards) is Performapal monkeyboard fetch Joker, Normal Joker and add a scale, then PS 3 Level 4's if you can actually get a hand full of Level 4s. Of course, Draco face-off and wavering could be a factor in this as well.

I rather go for rafflesia and ignister/majester than waisting 4 materials on lugia

 

Emperor is right 4 materials make this too gimmicky, yes now its effects are maybe justified(just maybe), but its not worth  a slot in the extra deck 

 

if it goes to 3 materials it has to be watered down thats all. The fact that is suceptible to veiler, fiendish breaktrgouh and stuff doesnt male it better, you make it undestructible by effecs and give him a fail safe for battles, too much covered for a rank 4

[Yuuji Kazami]

Nutellas would rather go for Rhongobongo, unless for whatever reason the need to OTK through Ojama Trio.

No praise for design? ;_;

 

 

 

Btw, increase the ATK to 3500 and DEF to 3000 for more liklihood of use? =/

I rather go for rafflesia and ignister/majester than waisting 4 materials on lugia

 

Emperor is right 4 materials make this too gimmicky, yes now its effects are maybe justified, but its not worth  a slot in the extra deck 

 

3 materials was fine but it has to be watered down thats all. The fact that is suceptible to veiler, fiendish breaktrgouh and stuff doesnt male it better, you make it undestructible by effecs and give him a fail safe for battles, too much covered for a rank 4

So now that you know it was originally 4, should I juice up the ATK to 3500?

[Yuuji Kazami]

Updated Lugia. It now has 3500 ATK for the 4 Level 4s required. This makes it more attractive to use. Also changed the name.

[Dragulas]

Updated Lugia. It now has 3500 ATK for the 4 Level 4s required. This makes it more attractive to use. Also changed the name.

3000 was fine, 500 atk doesnt make it more attractive but hey, what still bothers me is the nuke effect, it doesnt specify from where to die, i cant even negate the summon without triggering the effect

[Yuuji Kazami]

3000 was fine, 500 atk doesnt make it more attractive but hey, what still bothers me is the nuke effect, it doesnt specify from where to die, i cant even negate the summon without triggering the effect

But you have to agree that the 4 materials for it is fair, correct?

 

By the time you actually get this onto the field, you'll need a decent amount of crap on your side. Lugia also nukes you too, not just your opponent.

 

P.S How was the design? =D

[Dragulas]

But you have to agree that the 4 materials for it is fair, correct?

 

By the time you actually get this onto the field, you'll need a decent amount of crap on your side. Lugia also nukes you too, not just your opponent.

 

P.S How was the design? =D

Considering the fact that you invested 4 monsters, if it dies the nuke will affect only the opponent (in most cases), the 3000 atk was fine because it was able to crash with other monsters, at 3500 the possibility of destroying it battle almost dissapear entirely.

 

If by design you mean artwork, its awesome though

[Yuuji Kazami]

Considering the fact that you invested 4 monsters, if it dies the nuke will affect only the opponent (in most cases), the 3000 atk was fine because it was able to crash with other monsters, at 3500 the possibility of destroying it battle almost dissapear entirely.

 

If by design you mean artwork, its awesome though

Yeah, I meant the artwork and the card's aesthetic design lol. Effects aren't my strong suit. XD

 

Hmm... 3500 is too much eh? Alrighty, since it technically is a "corrupted" pokemon, might as well as make it go into the 50s. But then again,some might complain that it disturbs the entire Duel Terminal lore. 

 

Since it does require 4 Level 4's, what ATK do you think will make the card more fair?